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Title: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: d3vi@nt on January 08, 2017, 03:19:10 PM
As I wait for Ducati to come out with a true ST, the Tourismo Veloce has caught my eye.

There's one dealer in CO, a little over 70 miles away. They don't have any in stock and don't remember ever having any. The next closest dealer is 500 miles away (no idea if they have stock or not). I've seen a few pop up on e-bay from time to time through a dealer in FL.

Makes me wonder what support is like in general for these bikes. Other than parts and warranty work, is a small dealer network like theirs best avoided?

Anyone have any thoughts or FHE with MV from a general owner standpoint?


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: Speeddog on January 08, 2017, 08:34:06 PM
Run away.


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: koko64 on January 08, 2017, 10:00:28 PM
Maybe look around for a good ST4s and tune it with a PCV for open airbox and free flowing pipes. Maybe change the gearing for better performance too.
Just a thought.


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: ducpainter on January 09, 2017, 03:18:06 AM
They make nice bikes, and since Bruce has been involved with the service end of it they've made some improvements, but the dealer network is weak.


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: d3vi@nt on January 09, 2017, 06:34:20 PM
Run away.
I trust you knowledge, but can you elaborate?


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: d3vi@nt on January 09, 2017, 06:51:07 PM
Maybe look around for a good ST4s and tune it with a PCV for open airbox and free flowing pipes. Maybe change the gearing for better performance too.
Just a thought.
I have a '99 ST2, which I really enjoy; suspension rebuilt by Cogent, 15x43T gearing, DP chip and FBF carbon exhaust, steel braided lines, tapered headset bearings and a few other tweaks and mods. But it's getting a little long in the tooth. Even the ST4s latest model is 12 years old.

Not that old is bad, I'm just looking for some new tech to try and the ST-type bikes suit me best. I'm pondering the 2017 SS with the touring option, but the soft cases are a deal-breaker for me.

ST seems to be one of the smallest niches, which is my the TV caught my eye.  Just not sure how critical the dealer network is. I don't feel I've had to rely on the Ducati dealer network (other than Monster tank replacement), but then again, I've never had an expensive new Ducati, either.


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: Speeddog on January 09, 2017, 07:43:17 PM
I trust you knowledge, but can you elaborate?

Mother Ship has been in a perpetual state of turmoil for quite a while.
Tiny Italian boutique manufacturer.
Microscopic dealer network.
That TV has electronics up the wazoo.
If the Colorado Dealer can't fix a problem, the next closest dealer at 500 miles away is going to be a PITA.
Is there an independent wrench in your area that knows anything about MV's?
From the little I know, resale values are really weak.

Admittedly, those are practical considerations.


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: koko64 on January 09, 2017, 08:21:17 PM
In light of all this, I think the new Supersport is a great option. Im sure there will be aftermarket luggage options if you can make do with the soft luggage in the meantime. Luckily there is a good chance all the electronic bugs on the new Hypers and Multis have been sorted on this later model.
The Supersport definitely has Sport Tourer written all over it.


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: lawbreaker on January 11, 2017, 09:57:01 AM
lurk through the MVAGUSTA.NET site.... forum members have formed a very strong support network.... which luckily is better than dealer network, and a wealth of information.

... and Nick (Speeddog) is pretty spot on

Waiting for parts can be quite frustrating (I have a Brutale 1078RR)...




Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: duccarlos on January 11, 2017, 12:00:45 PM
MVs are gorgeous and if they had a better support system, not as dependent on the factory, I would consider it. Like Speeddog mentioned, most issues stem from being a small shop that has been either in constant bankruptcy or sold multiple times.


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: Speeddog on January 11, 2017, 03:50:06 PM
IIRC, red baron has an MV.

Perhaps he'll stop by and give us some FHE.


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: yamifixer on January 12, 2017, 09:18:05 AM
My wife thinks they are sexy.

I rode a F4-750 s a long time ago. i liked it but i remember the dealership flat out said they had no parts in stock and didn't see it changing anytime soon. but like i said that was 15+ years ago


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: d3vi@nt on January 16, 2017, 05:13:45 PM
Thanks for all the feedback...  I'm still stewing. The detail of these bikes, to my eyes is phenomenal and makes the '17 SS look mundane, even for a Ducati.

But the realities of the dealer network (roughly 1/3 that of Ducati) are starting to sink in; the hard cases are only available on the Lusso (+ $1k) and are apparently unavailable, otherwise. Not even a reference number in the parts diagrams. Not much in the way of parts on e-bay, either...

Ya'll are far more practical than I had hoped   [laugh]


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: kopfjÀger on January 16, 2017, 05:31:52 PM
make the beast with two backs it! Go for it, you only go around once.  ;)


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: koko64 on January 16, 2017, 05:43:06 PM
+1
Or how about a fully Termi/ECU DP accessorised and loaded S model Supersport with Touring Pack?


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: Speeddog on January 16, 2017, 06:50:34 PM
It's only money, they print it every single day.

You'll get laid at least once more every week just because you've got an MV Agusta.

Complete strangers will buy you steak dinners.


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: koko64 on January 16, 2017, 07:16:12 PM
 :D


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: ducpainter on January 17, 2017, 03:35:15 AM
I know a bunch of people that own them. Most are using them on the track.

I really like the F3...if I had Nick's money. ;D


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: MadDuck on January 17, 2017, 06:29:15 AM
How far away from home are you planning on riding? If you are going more than 200 miles from home base I'd say look into a Superduke 1290 GT. Maybe not quite as sexy but has a far better dealer base and still gobs of fun.


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: lawbreaker on January 18, 2017, 07:58:21 AM
How far away from home are you planning on riding? If you are going more than 200 miles from home base I'd say look into a Superduke 1290 GT. Maybe not quite as sexy but has a far better dealer base and still gobs of fun.

... My Brutal 1078RR has clip-ons and i rode it from L.A to Laguna Seca for WSBK last year. No issues with comfort and the haul ( hwy 23-126-150-33-58) into Paso Robles was a BLAST ! [thumbsup]


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: d3vi@nt on January 19, 2017, 09:31:03 PM
Thanks, guys. You all crack me up!   [clap]

KTM's design aesthetics just don't do it for me and I have a hard time getting past that, despite probably being a solid bike.

OTOH, the Brutale has that same MV sex appeal. There's one in my area that's been on CL for half a year; '07 910R with low miles for under $5500. I've been sorely tempted. But I learned from my Monster that I really want/need more wind protection along with waterproof hardcases large enough to stow my helmet.

Steaks for nothin' and chicks for free sounds good, though!  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: MV Agusta - general thoughts?
Post by: rz33v4 on February 20, 2017, 11:00:51 AM
I've owned an F3 675 since 2012; bought it when I lived in Charlotte, NC, where there was a good dealer. I now live in Michigan and the nearest dealer is in south Chicago, 300 miles away.

There's more to MV than the look. That 3-cylinder motor has tons of power and character, more character than the Monster 1200 I sold last year. And the handling is sublime.

I keep hoping someone will open a dealer here in the Detroit area. Interestingly, I faced the same sort of service/parts dilemma back in 1982 when i bought a Ducati Pantah - few dealers and parts hard to find. (http://)


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