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Title: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: Grrrly on July 21, 2008, 05:28:24 PM
http://www.wnbc.com/news/16945862/detail.html?dl=mainclick

NEW YORK -- One person has died and two people were injured, one critically and the other seriously, following an accident involving a motorcycle and a car, News 4 New York has learned.
The crash occurred at about 5:09 p.m. Monday at the Manhattan side of the Staten Island Terminal, fire officials told


Two motorcycles were stoped at a red light at south street and white hall
when a car hit them form the rear pushing one motorcycle off to the side critically injuring the rider and rolling over the other motorcycle and killing the rider then hitting a Jersey barrier

 July 21, 2008

One person is dead and two others injured after an accident between a car and a motorcycle during the evening rush at 5:20 Monday evening.

Officials say the car jumped the curb at the Staten Island Ferry Terminal on South Street and went into the barriers, crushing the motorcycle underneath.

Those injured were taken to Bellevue Hospital for treatment.

No word on what caused the accident.



Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: Got Duc on July 21, 2008, 05:57:57 PM
Tragic

RIP


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: GLantern on July 21, 2008, 06:05:24 PM
My gf called me about this today, its so sad just stopped at a light and getting rear ended like that. 

RIP  :'(


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: Pakhan on July 21, 2008, 08:14:15 PM
Ouch RIP.  That 5th picture in the set from the link is brutal.


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: Howie on July 21, 2008, 08:26:29 PM
Tragic :'(


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: beancounter on July 21, 2008, 09:23:30 PM
...we can only control so much...all it takes is a careless/reckless nutbag in a cage :'(



Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: FLSTFI_E46 on July 22, 2008, 05:33:34 AM
quite a terrible incident and a very unfortunate circumstance ...  R.I.P. and best wishes for all involved.
I'm quite curious to know what the car driver's reason would be for causing this ... inattentiveness, pressing on gas pedal instead of breaks, health issues, car mechnical problem ??




Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: ivyjumper on July 22, 2008, 05:40:09 AM
New York 1 reported this morning that the driver of the car was charged with operating a vehicle while impaired!


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: mikenyc on July 22, 2008, 05:49:12 AM
New York 1 reported this morning that the driver of the car was charged with operating a vehicle while impaired!

This is 3 minutes from my apartment and about 1/2 a block from where I park.

Latest: http://www.ny1.com/ny1/Boroughs/manhattan.jsp

S.I. Man Arrested In Connection With Deadly Manhattan Car Crash
July 22, 2008

A Staten Island man is under arrest in connection with a deadly car accident yesterday near the Staten Island Ferry Terminal in Lower Manhattan.

Police have arrested Adam Greenberg, 31, and charged him with reckless driving and driving while impaired.

They say Greenberg crashed into two motorcycles on South Street yesterday afternoon.

Dimitrios Kazanas, 39, was killed. The other rider was taken to the hospital in critical condition.

Police say Greenberg's car hit the cyclists from behind before jumping the curb at the ferry terminal and coming to rest on a cement traffic barrier. Greenberg was taken to the hospital in serious condition.


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: Cotton on July 22, 2008, 05:50:21 AM
That's terrible.  RIP.  

Some things are out of our control.  This is another reason why I always watch behind me while stopped at a light.  


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: ivyjumper on July 22, 2008, 06:59:20 AM
I hate to admit that I have become a little numb after reading about so many motorcycle deaths over the past few years since I returned to riding. I guess its human nature to acknowledge the intrinsic risks of riding while at the same time distancing yourself from that reality by believing on some level that "it" won't happen to you. Like I said, I have become a little numb to these stories--I read them, get upset or angry and then a few minutes later I move on; however, this one has stayed with me. This could have been anyone of us riding in New York City. The motorcyclist, just 39 years old, was just sitting at a red light and because of a "reckless" and "impaired" driver, his life was taken. As sad as this story is, what truely bothers me is knowing that I will read many similar stories before the summer is over. I will ride today, but it will be bittersweet. Sorry, but I just needed to vent.


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: CDawg on July 22, 2008, 07:07:16 AM
There seems to be an uptick on the board in the last few weeks with riders getting pummeled while at redlight.  scary.


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: GLantern on July 22, 2008, 07:47:54 AM
This could have been anyone of us riding in New York City.
That was my first thought when my GF called me about the accident today she wanted me to make sure nobody on here was involved.  With how many of us that go through the city on a regular basis it really hits close to home. :-[


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: Pakhan on July 22, 2008, 08:03:28 AM
That's terrible.  RIP. 

Some things are out of our control.  This is another reason why I always watch behind me while stopped at a light. 

BIG +1 to this.  If I am at a light and there is no car behind me I will be checking my mirror ready to move if I see someone coming quick.  I don't do it so much out of the city, but in the boroughs about 95% of the time.


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: eesnas on July 22, 2008, 03:56:15 PM
BIG +1 to this.  If I am at a light and there is no car behind me I will be checking my mirror ready to move if I see someone coming quick.  I don't do it so much out of the city, but in the boroughs about 95% of the time.

Yeah me too, you're never safe though... I had a girl beind me for 2 full minutes and she decided to gas it into my back while the light was still red! Even if someone is behind you sitting you're never safe anymore, these people SUCK!

This story makes me pissed off.


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: He Man on July 22, 2008, 04:47:26 PM
 [roll]    :(


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: EvilSteve on July 22, 2008, 07:40:28 PM
They could have been standing at an intersection and had the same thing happen.

It can happen to anyone, you don't have to be on a motorcycle.

RIP


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: Pakhan on July 23, 2008, 06:46:10 AM
They could have been standing at an intersection and had the same thing happen.

It can happen to anyone, you don't have to be on a motorcycle.

RIP

Where the heck have you been?  Not at matchless, not posting, hopefully riding though.


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: mjlandy on July 23, 2008, 07:21:22 AM
This is 3 minutes from my apartment and about 1/2 a block from where I park.

Latest: http://www.ny1.com/ny1/Boroughs/manhattan.jsp

S.I. Man Arrested In Connection With Deadly Manhattan Car Crash
July 22, 2008

A Staten Island man is under arrest in connection with a deadly car accident yesterday near the Staten Island Ferry Terminal in Lower Manhattan.

Police have arrested Adam Greenberg, 31, and charged him with reckless driving and driving while impaired.

They say Greenberg crashed into two motorcycles on South Street yesterday afternoon.

Dimitrios Kazanas, 39, was killed. The other rider was taken to the hospital in critical condition.

Police say Greenberg's car hit the cyclists from behind before jumping the curb at the ferry terminal and coming to rest on a cement traffic barrier. Greenberg was taken to the hospital in serious condition.


BASTARD

This gets me mad, because it could be anyone of us - despite acting like a hoot owl and looking behind us. This guy was likely impaired, and not paying attention.

I recall the MSF course quoting that only 3% of fatalities occur as a result of being hit from behind. I think it is much higher.


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: tommys67 on July 23, 2008, 07:39:39 AM
I've put off posting to this for a while.

How make the beast with two backsing tragic.

This city was bad for riders, and just seems to be getting worse.

RIP, dear rider!


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: mikenyc on July 23, 2008, 08:58:08 AM
This is 3 minutes from my apartment and about 1/2 a block from where I park.

Latest: http://www.ny1.com/ny1/Boroughs/manhattan.jsp

S.I. Man Arrested In Connection With Deadly Manhattan Car Crash
July 22, 2008

A Staten Island man is under arrest in connection with a deadly car accident yesterday near the Staten Island Ferry Terminal in Lower Manhattan.

Police have arrested Adam Greenberg, 31, and charged him with reckless driving and driving while impaired.

They say Greenberg crashed into two motorcycles on South Street yesterday afternoon.

Dimitrios Kazanas, 39, was killed. The other rider was taken to the hospital in critical condition.

Police say Greenberg's car hit the cyclists from behind before jumping the curb at the ferry terminal and coming to rest on a cement traffic barrier. Greenberg was taken to the hospital in serious condition.

UPDATE

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/07/22/2008-07-22_driver_in_fatal_staten_island_ferry_cras.html


Driver in fatal Staten Island ferry crash on drugs: cops

BY TAMER EL-GHOBASHY
DAILY NEWS POLICE BUREAU

Tuesday, July 22nd 2008, 11:08 PM

The driver that plowed into two motorcycles in lower Manhattan, killing one rider, was arrested for driving while high on drugs, cops said Tuesday.

Adam Greenberg, 31, was impaired when he tried to pass a city bus near the Staten Island ferry terminal Monday at the height of the evening rush hour, cops said.

Police sources said Greenberg of Brooklyn sped past the parked bus on South St. and rear-ended two motorcycles, sending the riders flying to the pavement.

His Volkswagen Jetta finally came to a stop after it crashed through a chain-link fence and mounted a cement barrier near Whitehall St., police said.

Dimitrios Kazanas, 39, of Queens, was crushed under the car and was dead at the scene, police said.

Another rider, who was identified by police sources as Gary Quinlan, 28, was taken to Bellevue Hospital, where he was in critical condition.

Greenberg was also taken to Bellevue Hospital after suffering serious injuries.

He was charged with driving while impaired and reckless driving, police said.

Cops declined to say what drug Greenberg was found to have been high on.

Records show Greenberg completed an accident-prevention course just last month after a string of moving violations including speeding and dangerous driving.

He was involved in two accidents within weeks of each other in January and February of this year and also was twice cited for speaking on his cell phone while driving, according to the records.

Kazanas' neighbors said he lived with his mother and brother in Flushing and was often seen riding his motorcycle.
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This is a comment on the article -

  lovinglife70  Jul 23, 2008 11:48:02 AM   Report Offensive Post
Mr. Greenburg and his wife are personal friends of ours. Its hard to offer a defense in this case, and I dont think he deserves one. We have all know about his poor habits and have tried to convince him to change his ways. Maybe we didnt try hard enough. Our prayers are with all families involved.


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: CDawg on July 23, 2008, 09:09:19 AM
He was charged with driving while impaired and reckless driving, police said.

He should be charged with, at minimum,manslaughter.  I hope he gets brutalized in prison.  >:(


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: Pakhan on July 23, 2008, 09:10:50 AM
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He was charged with driving while impaired and reckless driving, police said.

Why not involuntary murder or manslaughter?


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: GLantern on July 23, 2008, 09:14:08 AM
Records show Greenberg completed an accident-prevention course just last month after a string of moving violations including speeding and dangerous driving.

He was involved in two accidents within weeks of each other in January and February of this year and also was twice cited for speaking on his cell phone while driving, according to the records.

WTF he has had all those accidents and violations and they didn't take his license or anything?!?!?!  I would crucify this guy in court this makes me so make the beast with two backsing mad  [bang]


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: ivyjumper on July 23, 2008, 09:27:27 AM
I cringe to think how many other assholes like Adam Greenberg are cruising the streets of Manhattan right now.


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: Pakhan on July 23, 2008, 09:57:30 AM
Find the population of drivers in Manhattan and divide by 2  [cheeky]


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: Inwood on July 22, 2010, 12:02:17 AM
An update on the trial of Adam Greenberg:

This creature has never gone to trial and has been free on bond all this time. His next court date is July 29th in Manhattan Criminal Court in front of Judge Obus.

Two years, and apparently hasn't spent more than six weeks in jail. Disgusting.


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: Pakhan on July 22, 2010, 08:08:54 AM
I couldn't find anything in the news, do you have a link?  I would love a more thorough update.


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: GLantern on July 22, 2010, 09:14:29 AM
I couldn't find anything in the news, do you have a link?  I would love a more thorough update.

Same here


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: avizpls on July 22, 2010, 09:35:34 AM
What? Wheres all the crass comments?


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: Inwood on July 22, 2010, 01:14:50 PM
http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcrim_attorney/Login (http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcrim_attorney/Login) can be accessed as a public user. Search for "Adam Greenberg" as defendant name or case # 04050-2008.  The website can be a little flaky but it's the official NYS Courts site for public record case information.


*(8/2--corrected first name)


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: Pakhan on July 23, 2010, 08:43:48 AM
http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcrim_attorney/Login (http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcrim_attorney/Login) can be accessed as a public user. Search for "Andrew Greenberg" as defendant name or case # 04050-2008.  The website can be a little flaky but it's the official NYS Courts site for public record case information.

Nothing came up under his name.


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: Pakhan on July 23, 2010, 08:45:44 AM
What? Wheres all the crass comments?

Shut your trap jerk face.  I hope this guy dies a horribly torturous death.

Better?  ;D


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: Inwood on August 02, 2010, 02:32:45 AM
Apparently nothing happened--next court date Sept. 30th.


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: Inwood on December 09, 2010, 12:34:01 PM
The killer is STILL free on bond, more than 2 years after this death.

Next court date 1/13/2011.


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: Inwood on February 24, 2011, 01:51:35 PM
The killer is still out on bond. Next court date March 12th. 04050-2008 on WebCrims.


Title: Re: One Motorcyclist Killed Another Critically injured
Post by: GLantern on March 02, 2011, 05:59:07 PM
 >:(


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