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Hi,
I dropped the bike while taking it out of the garage. There is a manhole cover just outside my drive way and it was in the turning path, I was leaning and accelerating while on the manhole cover and by the time I realized I was already on the ground. BTW, the temperature was around 25 F. So, is the traction control good on this bike or was it because of the tire being hard out of garage due to weather?.


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I think you were operating outside the parameters of the electronics.

There becomes a time when the brain and the right wrist need to be responsible.

Yeah, I know that was a stupid move but seriously the bike was in Urban mode and as I just started from my drive way I might be turning at 10-15mph☹️

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Probably speed...not designed for the slow bits...it's percentage based...do if your doing 5mph a faster spinning rear will always slide in sport mode

That 25F part.... tires aren't much good that cold.

And that manhole cover could have had ice on it, yes?
That whole bridges ice over first thing.

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DTC won't stop you from sliding sideways if it's slippery enough. Also, isn't there a limit to when (how slow) the DTC works?

I pretty much agree with Nick.

Cold tire, cold/wet/perhaps icy steel, turning...and you expect TC to save that? Not likely.

Next time don't run over the steel cover. ;)

Sorry to hear you crashed man.

My daughter's Mitsubishi's traction control does not kick in until speeds of 20-30 kmph, but the GLW's Toyota's traction control kicks in at walking pace. The Mitsubishi owner's manual points this out, so it would be interesting to see what your owner's manual describes as the TC's parameters of operation.
What was the setting within Urban Mode? Default or manually adjusted? I would talk to your dealer to learn more and gain an understanding of how to get the best out of the system. Worth having it checked to ensure the TC is operating correctly. While you certainly conducted a severe test of the "Safety Pack", in your defence, you had confidence in it. I'm not so trusting.
I would want the Urban setting to be sensitive and working at low speeds because lets face it, a manhole cover is pretty bloody urban!

I looked in the owners manual, and I couldn't find any parameters listed.

There was no ice on the cover though.

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At 25 degrees a moto tire won't have traction on a wet steel surface,

Again,

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Condensation can be just as slick on a manhole cover...just a cruddy situation

I DTC settings were at default.

It wasn't wet either.

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Did you find out when the DTC first kicks in?

Sorry, I read into Nick's comment about the bridges freezing first. I still maintain that TC will not compensate for a cold tire. It won't even do that on motogp machines, and they have the most sophisticated TC on the planet.

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Thanks for humoring me.

Didn't know that, thanks for the explanation 👍

The manual doesn't say at what speed the DTC would kick in, but it says "DTC system will kick in at the slightest hint that the rear wheel is starting to spin." that is when it is set to level 8, the default level in Urban mode is level 6.

Maybe the wheel slid sideways as much as spinning. Traction control is a wonderful rider aid, so some say, but it won't prevent every crash.

Motorcycles are dangerous. didn't your mom tell you that? ;D

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^ this

I have an 821 and there is a turn I take every day where I am leaned over when going over crosswalk paint (left hand turn from a stoplight) and the rear end slides sideways a bit every time and I get no DTC indication.

That's interesting.
There are sections of ornamental brickwork dividing the tarmac in my estate which would have the same effect. I get sideways on those sections in the dry and they are lethal in the wet.

Yes, I ride VERY gingerly over those sections.  Hate them.