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Title: Idle Adjustment
Post by: wllgmr on July 22, 2008, 02:45:22 PM
How do I adjust the idle on my 02 s4? It is fuel injected. The bike idles around 1 and just under sometimes. Thats too low, right? I assume it is, because it stalls @ stop lights sometimes.
Title: Re: Idle Adjustment
Post by: Wanwo on July 22, 2008, 03:08:44 PM
Is it only stalling when the engine is not up to temp?
Title: Re: Idle Adjustment
Post by: wllgmr on July 22, 2008, 03:11:48 PM
It stalls after the engine is warm.
Title: Re: Idle Adjustment
Post by: Wanwo on July 22, 2008, 03:43:03 PM
Do you have a non-standard exhaust? Air box modification? Any ECU changes? Lighter flywheel?
Title: Re: Idle Adjustment
Post by: wllgmr on July 22, 2008, 03:51:42 PM
Full Termi, open airbox, Preformance ECU, Power Commander.......... I just got it back from the shop. Dyno, custom mapp. Everything is straight except the idle. Can it be adjusted without going back to the shop?
Title: Re: Idle Adjustment
Post by: Wanwo on July 22, 2008, 04:30:04 PM
In that case take it back to the dyno shop. Their responsibility if you just got it back and it's not right. I know with my PCM3 it can adjusted by hooking it up to a laptop but I haven't had the need to learn how to do that yet.

On the other hand, might it be a matter of getting use to it? Maybe it was idling a little high before. My 8 idles about 1k when warm and I haven't stalled it in a long time.
Title: Re: Idle Adjustment
Post by: Speeddog on July 22, 2008, 04:47:04 PM
Idle speed is controlled by the air bleed screws.

S4 won't be very happy with idle below 1k, as you've found.
Should be up around 1200 or so.
Title: Re: Idle Adjustment
Post by: wllgmr on July 22, 2008, 05:58:12 PM
Where do I find these air bleed screws Speeddog? I like fixing whatever I can myself.
Title: Re: Idle Adjustment
Post by: Speeddog on July 22, 2008, 07:02:00 PM
Quote from: willgomer on July 22, 2008, 05:58:12 PM
Where do I find these air bleed screws Speeddog? I like fixing whatever I can myself.

Rear throttle body:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/2694662294_fb6e7123c6_o.jpg)


Front throttle body:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3225/2693844689_1b344323c6_o.jpg)


Wind them out 1/4 turn each, see if that pulls the idle up.

If that's not enough, try another 1/4 turn each.
Title: Re: Idle Adjustment
Post by: wllgmr on July 23, 2008, 11:34:54 AM
Damn right speeddog, thats great. Pics are much better than a written decription. I'll try it tomorrow. THANKS!
Title: Re: Idle Adjustment
Post by: DrNo08 on July 23, 2008, 01:33:12 PM
I hope this fix works for a 695 cuz I'm having the same problem.  I have to leave the choke on just a bit to keep it alive.
Title: Re: Idle Adjustment
Post by: DrNo08 on July 23, 2008, 01:47:18 PM
What would happen if only the front screw or only the back screw were adjusted?
Title: Re: Idle Adjustment
Post by: Speeddog on July 23, 2008, 02:25:38 PM
Quote from: DrNo08 on July 23, 2008, 01:47:18 PM
What would happen if only the front screw or only the back screw were adjusted?

That would change the sync.

Whether it's better or not would depend on how well it was synced prior to turning the screw.
Title: Re: Idle Adjustment
Post by: Keith on July 23, 2008, 02:36:54 PM
Actually that little screw to the right of the air bleed in the second picture should adjust your idle w/o any risk of sync issues.  That screw should limit the amount that the thottle cam can close.  It should push on a small tab behind where the throttle cable hooks in.  Try moving that screw in about 1/8 of a turn.

Good Luck,
Keith
Title: Re: Idle Adjustment
Post by: Speeddog on July 23, 2008, 02:52:27 PM
The throttle stop screw will indeed effect idle with little chance of changing the sync.

BUT, it alters the mV reading of the TPS that the ECU gets, so it isn't the best method of adjusting idle speed.
Title: Re: Idle Adjustment
Post by: Eddie_322 on March 19, 2009, 04:14:08 AM
wllgmr, did you try this? Did you use the screws in the pic of the throttle stop? How did it work for you? My S4 is idling at around 800 - 900 rpm now.
Title: Re: Idle Adjustment
Post by: Howie on March 19, 2009, 05:37:48 AM
Read what Speeddog said about the stop screw.  Idle speed is set with the air bleeds.