My S2r 1000 had full arrow exhaust on it when I bought it but I'm looking into getting a ceramic coated Quat D exbox system. How many of you run the Quat D? What are your thoughts on it?
I've run the Quat D since around 2007. Love it!
Pretty sure there are pics floating around here....or on Google.
I ran the bare udder for about a year before that, which was kind of loud....
Quote from: herm on November 06, 2018, 02:12:01 PM
I've run the Quat D since around 2007. Love it!
Pretty sure there are pics floating around here....or on Google.
I ran the bare udder for about a year before that, which was kind of loud....
I have news for you...
the Quat-D is loud, also. :-*
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm285/s2r1000/paintedbelts6.jpg)
Quote from: ducpainter on November 06, 2018, 02:13:32 PM
I have news for you...
the Quat-D is loud, also. :-*
??....Sorry, couldn't hear you....
Seriously though,....it's got nothing on the bare udder. I used to get done with a ride and feel a little disoriented from the noise....even with ear protection.
Quote from: herm on November 06, 2018, 02:15:47 PM
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm285/s2r1000/paintedbelts6.jpg)
FWIW, this picture and a few similar are on page 1 if you google ducati monster s2r1000 quat d ex box....
I know they look badass. I've heard the arrow exhaust I have now is louder than Quat d.
Quote from: Jruwducati on November 06, 2018, 02:24:23 PM
I know they look badass. I've heard the arrow exhaust I have now is louder than Quat d.
I don't think it needs to be louder. Just my opinion though....
I don't think it needs to be louder either. I have just heard about a few corrosion issues and have seen some gnarly Quat ds that we're only a few years old. Must have just been horrible maintenance on those since no one here has mentioned that yet.
Quat-D robs power.
FWIW (not much really, as it's *my* ears) I think the Arrows sound better than a QD. Thunder > Blatting.
Arrows though, take up more space than the QD.
And the QD allows a really cool look from the rear.
I'd consider the Arrows better in fitment.
Not surprising though, I've not seen anything come straight out of the box better than Arrows.
The QD seem to need specific tuning to get the most from them.
All in all, not a bad idea on an S2R1k if you can baseline it with set valve clearances, cam timing, etc.
Full Arrow shotgun style surpasses Quat D ExBox in all areas. Sound, look, power, build quality, cachet, everything. My opinion of the Quat D ExBox is that it looks like a homemade udder. Also I'd never pay for something that shortchanges me on power. That's stupid in my view. But to each his own right [Dolph]
Never noticed diminished power with my Ex Box. But I also only rode the bike twice with stock before changing it up.
And...... It's got plenty of power, no matter what the pipes are.
I guess it just comes down to what the individual is looking for in replacement pipes.
Quote from: herm on December 14, 2018, 05:37:39 PM
Never noticed diminished power with my Ex Box. But I also only rode the bike twice with stock before changing it up.
Yeah but...you're comparing the ExBox with the stock exhaust. I thought the discussion was more about comparing the ExBox with a full Arrow exhaust. Or Termignoni or whatever that's freeflow and full length over the shorter systems. The thing to remember is any of them will work but they have to be tuned, with the general understanding that the full systems will yield more power overall than the others. Something about scavenging effect. I guess my point is I would never spend good money to replace a perfectly fine already installed full Arrow system with something like an ExBox or a Termi shorty that would need a remap and would still make less power, and not sound as good doing it. Seems like a step backward. The sound and looks are subjective but the power isn't. I like the idea of the compact exhaust tucked under the bike which is a tidy way to go but the ExBox looks homemade to me, more so if it's ceramic coated.
Quote from: booger on December 15, 2018, 12:16:02 PM
......never spend good money to replace a perfectly fine already installed full Arrow system with something like an ExBox or a Termi shorty that would need a remap and would still make less power, and not sound as good doing it.
Ah...yes. I totally agree with you there! [Dolph]
From both a horsepower and weight loss performance perspective, a full Arrow system is a top tier exhaust. That exhaust is a maximum effort performance part and a valuable, hard to find asset.