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Title: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: cmross13 on November 14, 2018, 11:43:01 AM
anybody using one of these aluminum rings? can you post some pics or an explanation of how its mounted? i have the FBF version and i don't see how the little clips would hold it on without some sort of lip or groove in the alloy? i see there are some holes drilled in it but it came with no other parts or instructions so im kind of confused

might go buckwild with grinder im sure i can make something work lol

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1835/4717/products/unnamed_1024x1024.jpg?v=1510863166)


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: ducpainter on November 14, 2018, 01:16:54 PM
Wild guess...the ring was mounted with screws into the airbox flange.

You're going to have to re-jet your carbs if you use that ring or a drilled top.


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: koko64 on November 14, 2018, 02:36:00 PM
I have a spare which is the slotted version which uses the clips.
I would rather do this.
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=75652.0
Topic: Modified Carbs and Airbox Mods.  
There's a section on just the airbox and velocity stack mods.


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: cmross13 on November 14, 2018, 03:06:54 PM
while i appreciate the responses, and i dont want to be a weiner here, but your first mistake was assuming the bike was carbureted lol

its an EFI M900ie with a DP ecu, which will need to go for a proper tune once its all reassembled, airbox or not ;)


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: ducpainter on November 14, 2018, 03:20:07 PM
while i appreciate the responses, and i dont want to be a weiner here, but your first mistake was assuming the bike was carbureted lol

its an EFI M900ie with a DP ecu, which will need to go for a proper tune once its all reassembled, airbox or not ;)
Actually, you misrepresented your Monster as 'old'. :-*


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: Howie on November 14, 2018, 03:23:36 PM
Suggestion:

Year and model of your bike in your profile.

Most folk just cut the airbox lid and use the remainder as a ring.


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: cmross13 on November 14, 2018, 03:24:56 PM
well for all intents and purposes, a 2000 model IS "old" lol, especially considering the bike is in its 3rd or 4th generation now? but now we're splitting hairs...

anywho, in the past ive seen a lot of pics online with similar products holding the filter in place, i just never paid attention to the mounting in itself and i cant figure out how to make this one work while utilizing these holes lol

i e-mailed FBF but figured id try my luck here


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: cmross13 on November 14, 2018, 03:26:40 PM
Suggestion:

Year and model of your bike in your profile.

Most folk just cut the airbox lid and use the remainder as a ring.

good call. done!


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: ducpainter on November 14, 2018, 03:27:15 PM
well for all intents and purposes, a 2000 model IS "old" lol, especially considering the bike is in its 3rd or 4th generation now? but now we're splitting hairs...

anywho, in the past ive seen a lot of pics online with similar products holding the filter in place, i just never paid attention to the mounting in itself and i cant figure out how to make this one work while utilizing these holes lol

i e-mailed FBF but figured id try my luck here

I'm old...

2000 isn't. ;D


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: greenohawk69 on November 14, 2018, 03:28:36 PM
Pictures. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181114/eb33d40ca909de231ab3a1aa2a8622e6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181114/69a7c52476e6e20c56191d4d4ea36903.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181114/7bb9ec49dc26020098c0e327858360d3.jpg)


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: cmross13 on November 14, 2018, 03:37:43 PM
I'm old...

2000 isn't. ;D

oh not for people, no. im a 1979 myself lol

but again, for the purpose of my question, "old monster" was an accurate way of asking about the airbox, since all the air cooled pre 2002 bikes used the same or basically the same airbox, fitting the ring to any of the "old" monsters would be the same

Pictures....


thanks!, but mine doesnt have that groove/channel, yet ;)

and i literally just got a response back from Ferracci, he says to bend the stock ones. im not entirely sure what that means yet...

Me: "hello. i received your ducati monster airbox delete ring today and i dont see any way of mounting it? i was expecting there to be a groove or channel in the aluminum for the OEM clips to snap into, but alas, i was mistaken. im sure i could cut some, i just thought id ask you first"

Response: "Can modify the stock ones bye bending
Thanks
Best
Eraldo "


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: greenohawk69 on November 14, 2018, 04:24:17 PM
I don't know what what is meant by bending the stock one., other than the clips can be bent. The ring, not so much.


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: cmross13 on November 14, 2018, 04:34:26 PM
yeah me neither lol unless i hear otherwise im just going to machine a 1/16" groove into the length of both sides ;)


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: koko64 on November 14, 2018, 06:01:11 PM
Pictures. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181114/eb33d40ca909de231ab3a1aa2a8622e6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181114/69a7c52476e6e20c56191d4d4ea36903.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181114/7bb9ec49dc26020098c0e327858360d3.jpg)

The one in my spares box is this one.^

As DP said, it really does seem like the frame you have screws into the airbox flange . Interested to hear if the holes line up with the screws holding the filter support frame. Machining a groove should work and the clips do have to be bent over a little to stay in position.


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: cmross13 on November 14, 2018, 06:04:16 PM
The one in my spares box is this one.^

dont wanna sell it, eh? lol


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: cayman s on November 14, 2018, 08:14:36 PM
It was somewhat of a task, but for awhile on my '97 M900, I used four short lengths of twisted safety wire run through the holes in a FBF(?) ring to hold it down in place over my air filter.

It looked fairly spiffy, but I eventually got tired of having to cut the safety wires and install new pieces each time I removed and cleaned the filter, so I chopped my OEM airbox lid and went back to using the OEM clips.

Here (I hope) is a photo showing the clipped safety wires, but unfortunately not the ring:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d8qsqquqpyl70ki/lid.JPG?dl=0

The safety wires were secured to the OEM pins that the OEM clips were attached to.


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: greenmonster on November 15, 2018, 08:31:44 AM
Zip ties attached to clip mounts works, esp w the thinner filter model


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: cmross13 on November 15, 2018, 10:58:11 AM
fairly certain im just going to machine a groove in it. seems like the most reliable solution

thanks again for all the suggestions and responses ;)


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: koko64 on November 15, 2018, 01:17:26 PM
 That's the best idea I reckon [thumbsup]


Title: Re: old monster airbox "ring" instead of lid?
Post by: GK on November 16, 2018, 03:36:29 AM
Reminded me to clean, wash, dry and re-oil my K&N.

Recharge kit ordered!


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