For those of you who are fans, Metallica is releasing a new album in Sept. or Oct. intitled Death Magnetic. The track list is below. I am excited as hell and have heard pieces of all of these and no they do not sound like St. Anger which I know everyone will be pregnant doging about. Plus if you going to say something about Napster just leave off. Metallica fans and the public as a whole have heard enough. I just want to celebrate new music from the best Hard Rock band of all time.
That Was Just Your Life
The End Of The Line
Broken, Beat & Scarred
The Day That Never Comes
All Nightmare Long
Cyanide
The Unforgiven III
The Judas Kiss
Suicide & Redemption
My Apocalypse
bonus tracks
my therapist
death to kazaa
DOWN WITH the gay band AND HURRAY FOR TORRENTS. Supply and demand. I demand that all music metallica supplies should be free. VIVA la NAPSTER.
Sorry, couldnt resist.
St. Anger was [puke]
[laugh]
Seriously though, since the black album I don't think they have had anything good. Dunno if it's because my tastes changed or what. I will give their new album a listen to but I don't expect much.
"Best hard rock band of all time"? I think not, the best of all time GO TO ELEVEN!
^
+11TYB
100% agree that after the Black, they pretty much began their giant suck-fest
Quote from: Pakhan on July 23, 2008, 11:53:19 AM
St. Anger was [puke]
[laugh]
Seriously though, since the black album I don't think they have had anything good. Dunno if it's because my tastes changed or what. I will give their new album a listen to but I don't expect much.
"Best hard rock band of all time"? I think not, the best of all time GO TO ELEVEN!
You have no idea how many times I hear that they went down hill after the Black Album. I understand that Load and Reload weren't the same as the earlier stuff but they are still very good and very hard albums. Plus, S&M is amazing. Lets see some other bands out there do what they did with a whole symphony orchestra. I personally like St. Anger but I think you have to be a little crazy to get it. I do think the drums sounded horrible on it and the lack of solos sucked. The new album sounds like a cross between Justice and the Black album. Should be much better and will hopefully get some olds fans back.
If you think they have lost it go see them live. You can argue, if you want, that there are better bands but no other band comes close to the energy and sound that they have live. I saw them at Bonarroo last month which is a festival where a band like Metallica does not fit in and they blew everyone away, not my opinion but the opinion of hardcore jam band fans and hippies who thought Metallica would suck.
If your interested go to www.missionmetallica.com and you can get videos of the recording process for the new album.
I'll check it out but I just don't have that kind of Kill em all energy anymore and I don't think they do either.
Don't they have a new Bass Player? That Guy from Suicidal Tendencies?
I saw them live. Faith No More, GnR, and Metallica at Meadowlands years back. Was a great show.
remember when metallica was metal?
i miss that.
no i don't thinkthey can go back, they are too old and not as angry.
compared to what they have done the black album and everything after it isn't as good. if any other band put out most of those songs they would be considered great albums (st anger blew monkeys and lars was playing on a garbage can drum kit) I have seen them live a few times within the past few years, and st anger songs still suck despite the fact that they are one of my fav live bands.
i resisted all claims by people that they had lost their edge and now suck. i fought claims that they are just old and in it for the money now. (remember the $5.99 album?) I even found ways to rationalize Some Kind of Monster. i enjoy that it humanized all these people i have been admiring for years, but it made them out to be whiny jackasses.
i have now come to terms that one of my favorite bands has just mellowed out. it's hard to stay angry for that long.
i have found it funny that mustaine was kicked out for being too much of an alcoholic for metallica, and then hetfield went into rehab.
Quote from: MendoDave on July 23, 2008, 12:31:15 PM
I'll check it out but I just don't have that kind of Kill em all energy anymore and I don't think they do either.
Don't they have a new Bass Player? That Guy from Suicidal Tendencies?
rob trujillo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Trujillo)
I'll pick it up. Even if they haven't kept the "edge" that Kill em All had they are still talented as fck.
I'd buy an album of nothing but Kirk Hammet solos. And yes yes Lars is kind of a douche. But he is still one of the best drummers I have ever heard. Trujillo is a sick Bass player but I really miss the energy of Newstead. So does the band IMO but that's what they get for treating him shit.
I've been going to Metallica shows since I was 10 and have seen them 15 times.
They have just as much energy now as they did back then. The show at Bonarroo was significantly better than any show I've seen in the past 5 years. I think it has to do with Rick Rueben being their new producer. If you don't know who he is Rueben is known for resurrecting the careers of major artists. His whole theme for the new album is to get back to puppets and justice and I think the new stuff will be much more angry than load and reload. From just hearing some of the new stuff trust me James has plenty of anger left in him.
At the same time, if everyone has this perception that the Black album was the last good one then no matter what they do it won't be good to some people.
Yeah they like to make money but they are also really good to their fans check out the site in my earlier post and you'll see why. Plus a $5.99 album- You can't buy anyones album for $5.99 so why should they be different? The whole thing with Napster was about money but at the same time it was about people getting a hold of I dissapear before they were done with it. Lars is a total control freak and perfectionist and that is what got him on the course to shutting Napster down.
Finally, I thought SKOM was a good look into their lives but they did come off a little whiney and I read an interview with James where he said he wished they wouldn't have done it. Still took some balls to let people see the real side of them. Most bands out there wouldn't do it.
Quote from: metallimonster on July 23, 2008, 01:06:25 PM
Yeah they like to make money but they are also really good to their fans check out the site in my earlier post and you'll see why. Plus a $5.99 album- You can't buy anyones album for $5.99 so why should they be different? The whole thing with Napster was about money but at the same time it was about people getting a hold of I dissapear before they were done with it. Lars is a total control freak and perfectionist and that is what got him on the course to shutting Napster down.
Foo Fighters $2.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7549352&type=product&id=1505943
Chili peppers $1.99 & many $5.99 available
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7318388&st=Red+Hot+Chili+Peppers%3A&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1476724
Megadeth $6.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=15607434&st=megadeath&lp=2&type=product&cp=1&id=1638930
Metallica NO album under $10.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&id=pcat17071&type=page&ks=960&st=metallica&sc=artistSP&cp=1&sp=%2Bcurrentprice+skuid&qp=&list=n&usc=%A0-Artist&nrp=99&iht=n
Those are all greatest hits albums and not full studio albums. I'm not going to convince you of anything so it doesn't really matter. Lets see them make a Metallica's greatest hits. They couldn't do it on one CD.
By the way, the Red Hot Chilli Peppers were on the verge of losing their record company until Rick Rueben produced an album for them which was Blood Sugar Sex Magic. He has since produced all of their other albums, Californication, Stadium Arcadium, and By the Way.
I guess my point is why can't people get pass the Black album. So you haven't liked the albums since, I think this one is going to be different. Can't you praise them for the ass kickers they have always been live? Don't they deserve at least a little respect for the albums you do like and how much they tour and how long they play every night?
If you gave Load a second chance you might end up liking it. It's my favorite by the way.
i loved everythign they did up to st anger.
when i dissapear came out (for mission impossible) i was put off, but stuck with them
the thing that annoys me just as much as the people that claim the band sold out because they cut their hair and because the black album exploded are the fanboys and fangirls who won't accept that they arent' as good as they used to be. i interact with these people regularly.
so go enjoy your precious and the rest of us will judge it how we see fit.
Load is actually in my top three of theirs. [thumbsup] Maybe even my top two.
St. Anger was a big disappointment for me. Other than the first track, the rest was a non-event. Worst drum track mix I've ever heard.....
I don't really like much of their music after "And Justice for All"
The only later song I listen to is Fuel.
FIRE BAD!!!!
That being said, a coworker bought St Anger and I listened to it. On 1 listen, I thought that it was more like the old days musically, but vocally it was pussified. Guess that happens when you get older.
They've been around a long time and that's fine. HOpefully they aren't like the Stones and think they should hang around forever though. Whatever they come out with, I'll give it a chance, but I'm not going to go buy it to give it a chance.
It's not just Metallica though. There's a few bands that used to totally kick ass (IMO) but just don't have it anymore. Deftones spring to mind right away as a great example.
Oh, does anyone know what "fire bad" is related to or is it just me? lol
well hey a metallica thread [evil]
Let me roll my sleeves up here....
I think your post is interesting coming from a younger person. Most of Metallica's core fan base are in their 30's and 40's now and are starting to disperse somewhat, so now they've got some newer young fans whose memories don't necessarily reach all the way back to Metallica's glory days of the 80's and early 90's.
I'm 31 and my first metallica gig was in 94 - Easily one of my top 5 shows ever. And I've been to a lot. But for the last decade I haven't been able to take them seriously anymore. I think they hit a heaviness peak with Justice, then gradually started diffusing their sound. By the time Load came around I was out. My tastes have sinced moved on to more traditional metal bands.
I might give the new album a spin (figurative term these days, it will of course be downloaded) out of curiosity, but I'll be very surprised if I find anything meaningful in it. The simple fact is the vast majority of bands have a peak and then decline. When you are lean and hungry and have something to prove the good shit comes out. To me they just aren't relative anymore...
whatever
[roll]
you all suck
Metallica is teh rawk
old stuff good
black albumn of course good
load and reload good
I lost track of them at this point but managed to pay for a copy of garage days
liked it so much I went to two live shows in Portland back to back
absolutely LOVED it when they went accoustic halfway through
I enjoy that Metallica's music progressed as they matured
and that they went from a speed metal band to what they are now
and that James learned how to sing...as much as he can
I dig metallica, will always dig metallica, and all you bad mouthers can...just continue doing wht you do best...complaining
:P
Quote from: KnightofNi on July 23, 2008, 02:25:27 PM
i loved everythign they did up to st anger.
when i dissapear came out (for mission impossible) i was put off, but stuck with them
the thing that annoys me just as much as the people that claim the band sold out because they cut their hair and because the black album exploded are the fanboys and fangirls who won't accept that they arent' as good as they used to be. i interact with these people regularly.
so go enjoy your precious and the rest of us will judge it how we see fit.
I hope you are not comparing me to one of these fanboy's, I may be younger compared to a lot of metallica fans but all I wanted for my 5th birthday was ...and Justice for All. My dad was cool and listened to Kill em' ALL when I was in the womb and took me to my first show when I was 10. It's not that I won't accept that they are as good as they used to be it is that I think the newer stuff is different but just as good. Just because your taste doesn't change doesn't mean that mine can't. So go ahead and judge it as you see fit but don't call me a fanboy just because I am younger than you. A lot of older fans gave up on Metallica just because they went main stream. They felt like Metallica was there band and once the Black album came out they were upset they had to share them. I say the more fans the better but your not a fan if you talk shit. You don't have to like the new stuff just don't bash them for growing musicaly. They grew and the rest of the genre didn't. Tell me a band from that era and style that still sells records and headlines major tours, you probably can't name 2. Yes, I am a huge Metallica fan, obviously, but I love everything they do. I like load and reload for the lyrics and the difference in melodies and rythms from the older stuff. I'll be the first to say that St. Anger was dissapointing but don't tell me that Load and Reload are not heavy music. Listen to King Nothing, Bleeding Me, Devil's Dance, and Bad Seed and then tell me that they are not heavy. They just aren't heavy in the same way as Puppets or Harvester of Sorrow. Don't get me wrong you'll see Puppets and Justice in my CD player just as much as the others, I listen to it all equally (less of St. Anger though). I probably shouldn't have started this thread because it is making me frustrated but I figured most would be interested in a new album, especially one being produced by Rick Rueben. That was supposed to be the point of the thread not, The Metallica is not as good as it used to be thread. A lot of bands were in the same postition as Metallica is now and Rick Rueben came in and revamped their career's. Johnny Cash would be a great example. So I guess we'll see in late September if they can still rock out like they used to. And I'll say it one more time if you think they are not as good as they used to be go see them live and you'll be pleasantly surprised.
By the way, you make the beast with two backsing rock Mother [evil] [evil] [evil]
Quote from: Mother on July 23, 2008, 05:54:34 PM
whatever
[roll]
you all suck
Metallica is teh rawk
old stuff good
black albumn of course good
load and reload good
I lost track of them at this point but managed to pay for a copy of garage days
liked it so much I went to two live shows in Portland back to back
absolutely LOVED it when they went accoustic halfway through
I enjoy that Metallica's music progressed as they matured
and that they went from a speed metal band to what they are now
and that James learned how to sing...as much as he can
I dig metallica, will always dig metallica, and all you bad mouthers can...just continue doing wht you do best...complaining
:P
Fine.
We will.
;D
After the Black, suck-fest began. I do like them a lot. I hope the new album can reverse suck-fest.
I'm not going to say they suck after "And justice for all"... I just don't like the evolution.
I guess I'm just an old school heavy metal junkie.
F**k it... I'm going to get out my Ride the Lightning cd and piss off the neighbors!
Obey your master!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Oga-yj7IpEw
I became a fan because of the black album. Saw them live with GnR -- James was recovering from the pyro burn. They obviously have some great "heavy" shit, but their best stuff - IMO - is not the really heavy stuff. "No Leaf Clover" from S&M is one of the best songs ever. Everyone should check out S&M. So good.
It's too bad the band became the fall guy for Napster, but they really helped save the music industry from illegal downloads. It's the same thing TV writers just went through, except instead of the mean studio bosses stealing from the artists it was the general public.
Well put ODrides, No Leaf Clover is in my top 5 favourite Met songs, I listen to S&M probably more than any other album.
They did take the fall and what the public doesn't know is that Dr. Dre, Eminem, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, and a lot of other big name groups were on the same litigation. Lars just had enough balls and is enough of a prick to stand up for what he believed in. I myself don't do any type of illegal downloading and it is not because Metallica doesn't like it. I believe that the artists, actors and anyone else puts their heart and sole into their art and deserve compensation for it. I know that they make a whole lot of money but it is stealing no matter which way you look at it. I wouldn't want people I didn't know to take money right off of my pay check and I don't think anyone else would either.
Quote from: ODrides on July 23, 2008, 10:22:14 PM
It's too bad the band became the fall guy for Napster, but they really helped save the music industry from illegal downloads. It's the same thing TV writers just went through, except instead of the mean studio bosses stealing from the artists it was the general public.
Ouch. That hurts because it's kind of true. Remember people were also stealing from the recording companies.
The whole file sharing scene did manage to bring album prices to a more reasonable level. Remember paying 21+ dollars for a CD (i grew up in Canada)? I do. After the artists and/or record companies were stealing from us for so long it was nice to get some payback.
That said I prefer to buy my music because I am lazy and can't be bothered to deal with trying to download the shit. And I will happily pay for the Metallica album (provided there are guitar solos.
[evil] [bacon]
SKOM,
There will be solos, go to mission metallica and watch some of the videos you'll find solos there.
My home computer is fuct and they block every good website at work. (except this one thank jebus)
I'll have to take your word for it.
Quote from: metallimonster on July 23, 2008, 06:15:41 PM
I hope you are not comparing me to one of these fanboy's, I may be younger compared to a lot of metallica fans but all I wanted for my 5th birthday was ...and Justice for All. My dad was cool and listened to Kill em' ALL when I was in the womb and took me to my first show when I was 10. It's not that I won't accept that they are as good as they used to be it is that I think the newer stuff is different but just as good. Just because your taste doesn't change doesn't mean that mine can't. So go ahead and judge it as you see fit but don't call me a fanboy just because I am younger than you. A lot of older fans gave up on Metallica just because they went main stream. They felt like Metallica was there band and once the Black album came out they were upset they had to share them. I say the more fans the better but your not a fan if you talk shit. You don't have to like the new stuff just don't bash them for growing musicaly. They grew and the rest of the genre didn't. Tell me a band from that era and style that still sells records and headlines major tours, you probably can't name 2. Yes, I am a huge Metallica fan, obviously, but I love everything they do. I like load and reload for the lyrics and the difference in melodies and rythms from the older stuff. I'll be the first to say that St. Anger was dissapointing but don't tell me that Load and Reload are not heavy music. Listen to King Nothing, Bleeding Me, Devil's Dance, and Bad Seed and then tell me that they are not heavy. They just aren't heavy in the same way as Puppets or Harvester of Sorrow. Don't get me wrong you'll see Puppets and Justice in my CD player just as much as the others, I listen to it all equally (less of St. Anger though). I probably shouldn't have started this thread because it is making me frustrated but I figured most would be interested in a new album, especially one being produced by Rick Rueben. That was supposed to be the point of the thread not, The Metallica is not as good as it used to be thread. A lot of bands were in the same postition as Metallica is now and Rick Rueben came in and revamped their career's. Johnny Cash would be a great example. So I guess we'll see in late September if they can still rock out like they used to. And I'll say it one more time if you think they are not as good as they used to be go see them live and you'll be pleasantly surprised.
By the way, you make the beast with two backsing rock Mother [evil] [evil] [evil]
i never said i disliked everything after a certain point. i said i disliked st anger, and the band has gone in a direction i don't like as much. i actually didn't start listening to them until the black album (i grew up in a very religious household)
i even said that if another band put out any of their albums it would be one of their greatest albums, but for metallica it wasn't as good as the rest of it. i actually own every metallica album. (lighting and garge days are my favorites) I have, in general, found something on each album that i enjoy. most often i enjoy all of it on some level. i just really miss the thrash, the black alum and after are definately not thrash. they are heavy, but it's not thrash. if they can bring that back it would be great, but i'm not holding out hope for them.
as far as rick reuben producing it, i'm not particularly excited. he might have helped revamp a few careers, but unless i get something closer to kill 'em all or lighting, i know i'm not going to enjoy it. the fact that such a big deal is being made about the producer of their album, not the musicians, isn't a good sign either.
you asked for bands that are still headlining...
slayer - and their sound hasn't changed much at all
testament
megadeth (though i can't stand mustaine's voice. also, he needs to get back on the smack and stop going to church. the "remastering" sucked balls)
iron maiden has become more of a household name again.
dream theater is constantly on tour. even if it is prog (and no, i can't stand them)
also, being a fanboy/fangirl has nothing to do with your age. it has to do with how the level of logic goes down when speaking about the object of your fanboyness. it also has a lot to do with the whole music snob mentality. elitists annoy me. people that say i can't be a fan because of whatever reason they choose, or that i can't possibly be as good of a fan as they are make me do things like show up wearing kakhis and a polo shirt just to challenge their ideas of non-conformity.
I under stand now what you meant by fanboy, sorry I took it the wrong way. Those kind of people annoy me too. I would like everyone to enjoy the music.
Those bands may still be headlining tours but in no way to they sell as much and do bigger tour than Metallica. That is what I meant. Metallica is still relevant and main stream and those bands are not.
Metallica is still the number 1 band played on any rock radio station.
Quote from: Mother on July 23, 2008, 05:54:34 PM
<snip>
I dig metallica, will always dig metallica, and all you bad mouthers can...just continue doing wht you do best...complaining
:P
if you love them so much, why don't you marry them?
[laugh]
I remember the Summer Sanitarium Tour of few years ago (with Deftones, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, etc.) and I left the Coliseum after 3/4 of their concert... They were just playing St. Anger [puke] and I couldn't stay there anymore.
I was at the concert here in Bologna 2 days ago and they rocked the stage! [evil] No St.Anger and many many classics, I loved it! They still sound amazingly good and I can't wait for the new album to come out (if it's really gonna be different from their last one).
Quote from: KnightofNi on July 23, 2008, 12:54:53 PM
remember when metallica was metal?
i miss that.
+1.
Real metal lives on. (http://www.myspace.com/thesword)
More here. (http://www.myspace.com/valientthorr)
Yummy Metal. (http://www.myspace.com/torche)
Metalli-who? (http://www.myspace.com/pelican)
Why were we talking about a band that stopped being metal four albums ago when there's all sorts of great new metal out there... and no one in the new bands is whining or crying about how much money they're entitled to, which, incidentally, isn't a very "metal" thing to do... (http://www.myspace.com/lairoftheminotaur)
Without the Napster flap, would Metallica be relevant today just on the strength of their recent efforts?
Wolvie,
I went to two shows on that tour and I think they played St Anger and Frantic at both of them. I can't believe that they played any more than that at the show you went to. If any it would be one more. Check out the set list at Met on Tour and see. They are very good at switching up set lists and playing music from every album. Plus you guys in Europe suck!! They've done way more tours over there lately and are only doing 4 shows here this summer. I'm so jealous. I had to drive 7 hours and pay 250 bucks to go to Bonarroo and see them last month. Was worth it though. There was tons of great bands there. Like a lot of the festivals that you have.
testament has never toured normally. skolnic is playing with them at a lot of shows and they are always packed.
slayer is still selling out large venues and releasing albums. i would deem them relevant.
megadeth is still selling out large venues and unless i'm mistaken has a new album (not mentioning the "remastered" songs...get back on the smack dave!)
iron maiden - ok, i'll give you that one.
DT - i have seen people travel across the country to see them at 6 places down the east coast, and vice-versa for the west coast. they are constantly releasing albums. they are more relevant thatn metallica in their genre right now. (i only know all this because my g/f is borderline fangirl for them)
Quote from: Wolverine on July 24, 2008, 11:56:22 AM
I remember the Summer Sanitarium Tour of few years ago (with Deftones, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, etc.) and I left the Coliseum after 3/4 of their concert... They were just playing St. Anger [puke] and I couldn't stay there anymore.
I was at the concert here in Bologna 2 days ago and they rocked the stage! [evil] No St.Anger and many many classics, I loved it! They still sound amazingly good and I can't wait for the new album to come out (if it's really gonna be different from their last one).
when i saw them right after st anger came out they only played 2 or 3 songs off of it and then played the good stuff. most of the songs were pre-black album. they played wherever i may roam and fuel. they might have played whiskey in the jar, but it's kinda running together. they prob also played one because they always seem to play it.
they also played my fav songs in one set. creeping death, wherever i may roam, four horsemen, fight fire with fire, battery, and seek and destroy.
Quote from: Monsterlover on July 23, 2008, 06:21:47 PM
Fine.
We will.
;D
After the Black, suck-fest began. I do like them a lot. I hope the new album can reverse suck-fest.
grrr rowl
nashing of teeth
metallica haters
grrrr
poseurs.
Quote from: dropstharockalot on July 24, 2008, 12:05:05 PM
Real metal lives on. (http://www.myspace.com/thesword)
Hehe they are opening for Metallica right now! Awesome band and I'll definitely be at their show in Austin later this year...
Well hopefully you guys have heard some of the album on the radio. Check out www.metallica.com under A Feast of Death for 6 of the 10 songs.
I had high hopes for this album and they have surpassed them. This new album definitely sounds like Metallica for all of those who only like pre-black. Oh yeah and Kirk remembered how to play solos.
Just give it a shot and I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Its hard, mean, and evil.
Quote from: metallimonster on September 05, 2008, 01:03:24 PM
Well hopefully you guys have heard some of the album on the radio. Check out www.metallica.com under A Feast of Death for 6 of the 10 songs.
I had high hopes for this album and they have surpassed them. This new album definitely sounds like Metallica for all of those who only like pre-black. Oh yeah and Kirk remembered how to play solos.
Just give it a shot and I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Its hard, mean, and evil.
Are you sure your not Lars? :)
No, but when I am passionate about something I am really go full bore. ;D
I am this passionate about three things. Metallica, Buckeye Football, and Monsters.
Seriously though. I have taken a lot of crap for my steadfast defense of the mighty Metallica and I am just pumped that this album lives up to all of the pressure they as a band were under. It is really good. [evil]
lol, I did hear the album and I was impressed. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Pakhan on July 23, 2008, 12:37:43 PM
I saw them live. Faith No More, GnR, and Metallica at Meadowlands years back. Was a great show.
You were there too?
I remember GnR playing about 5 songs, someone threw a bottle Axl, and the show was over.
Metallica's set is STILL the best show I've EVER seen!!!
Quote from: tommys67 on September 05, 2008, 02:55:28 PM
You were there too?
I remember GnR playing about 5 songs, someone threw a bottle Axl, and the show was over.
Metallica's set is STILL the best show I've EVER seen!!!
I saw that tour in Indianapolis at the Hoosier Dome. Metallica kicked ass. Faith no More kicked ass. GNR.....well......they WERE ass.
Since then I haven't liked anything Metallica have done. I still love that kind of music, but so many other bands are doing it better ( IMHO) so I stopped buying.
Quote from: tommys67 on September 05, 2008, 02:55:28 PM
You were there too?
I remember GnR playing about 5 songs, someone threw a bottle Axl, and the show was over.
Metallica's set is STILL the best show I've EVER seen!!!
Yea I thought it was funny, I came with a friend and I was there to see Metallica & Faith no More. He came to see GnR and we left early. [laugh]
Quote from: Pakhan on September 05, 2008, 03:45:09 PM
Yea I thought it was funny, I came with a friend and I was there to see Metallica & Faith no More. He came to see GnR and we left early. [laugh]
Pak - I just did the math...that was 16 years ago :o
Quote from: tommys67 on September 05, 2008, 03:47:36 PM
Pak - I just did the math...that was 16 years ago :o
We are old men [coffee]
I've only heard the one song on the radio. I haven't bothered to dl the rest of it yet. Maybe never will.
Musically it was pretty kickass. Reminded me of Master. But get the pussy James off vocals. He AINT GOT IT anymore. The best part of the song was the last minute and a half or so where he shuts his cakehole :)
I agree that the music on the new album (from what I've heard so far - Mandatory Metallica XM51 rocks!!) pretty much kicks ass.
Jaymz vocals on the other hand :-\
I saw Metallica in '87 when they were part of the Monsters of Rock tour (Europe not the lame American version). They were pretty good. They were far better than the other openers but Dio and Deep Purple smoked them (rightly so). The last album I bought was MoP. I was given Justice when it was released and it is ok. After that, they lost me.
I bought tickets for the Dec 12th show here in SoCal, with Lamb of God and The Sword (never heard of them).
Supposedly I get a copy of the album for my ticket price along with a video download of the show, but I'm not sure if that's only for the shows at the Forum or all SoCal shows.
I guess we'll find out.
Quote from: Privateer on September 06, 2008, 11:45:26 AM
I bought tickets for the Dec 12th show here in SoCal, with Lamb of God and The Sword (never heard of them).
I dig the Sword. No nonsense retro-metal. Highly recommend, if you like songs about norse gods and axe-killing. They have a song on Guitar Hero II that is fun [thumbsup]
Quote from: factorPlayer on September 07, 2008, 01:42:04 AM
I dig the Sword. No nonsense retro-metal. Highly recommend, if you like songs about norse gods and axe-killing. They have a song on Guitar Hero II that is fun [thumbsup]
haha, prog hobbit metal?
Quote from: KnightofNi on September 07, 2008, 01:47:48 PM
haha, prog hobbit metal?
Ha! I giggled a bit, then sighed when I realized it wasn't that far off. The beautiful thing about Metallica, I think, IS the variation they've had through the years. I got "and Justice" when I was in Jr. High and proceded then to work backwards towards "Kill 'em All" and the like. When I finally got a hold of their self titled record, I was pissed for a bit but really really got into it the more I listened. Different isn't always bad, you stubborn bastards ;D. It's really odd to think that they recorded Enter Sandman only two years after they recorded One, simply due to the immense differences in composition and energy ( as a few have mentioned here already). That's what I really got into though, and that's what allows them to keep making decent records. Ok, I take that last one back (St. Anger, rest in peace). All the long-lived bands have done the same. Aerosmith started as straight garage rock and progressed (then regressed) into their late stuff. AC-DC came from Back in Black into the less intense (but still musically diverse) Stiff Upper Lip, etc. Radiohead has made rock albums, electronica albums, and...well...Radiohead stuff.
I was a big fan of S&M as well while my die hard old school buddies hate me for it (and also dislike the album). While there were a couple of songs there that should never have been accompanied by orchestra (cough, Fuel, cough), Kamen did a wonderful job of taking the already epic and flowing Metallica compositions and outfitting them (not changing them) with a complimentary addition.
I only heard their new release once on the radio and frankly couldn't even whistle the melody, but all I can remember of it was driving down the highway, biting my knuckles and straining to keep the speed under 95 and stay out of the ditch. I may not remember the song at this moment, but that feeling alone was enough for me to warrant buying the album. I know it's not gonna happen, but I just wish I could see them in a decent sized venue. Arena shows bug the hell out of me.
Man, I don't know where you guys are coming from saying the new album sounds like Justice. It sounds more like St. Anger to me. Crappy, uninspired riffs, horrible vocals. Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and Justice weren't just about the expression of raw aggression. Musically, those albums were head and shoulders above anything they've done since. Complex guitar arrangements, unbelievable drums, the way they used acustic guitars, soft parts that accentuate the hard parts, even the lyrics were relevant and smart.
It just blows my mind that the same band that wrote a song like Orion or And Justice for All is the same band that wrote St. Anger. I think that a lot of their musical virtuoso came from Cliff Burton. Unfortunately, it died with him, never to return.
Quote from: Privateer on September 06, 2008, 11:45:26 AM
I bought tickets for the Dec 12th show here in SoCal, with Lamb of God and The Sword (never heard of them).
The Sword is great! I'm gonna see them with Clutch in Knoxville on Sept 30th. Will be an epic show.
Quote from: KEH on September 08, 2008, 07:06:17 PM
I think that a lot of their musical virtuoso came from Cliff Burton. Unfortunately, it died with him, never to return.
Actually I think Burton died before they recorded ..and Justice. The only track of his on it is To Live is to Die, and even then I think it's just partially his composition. Not sure if any of his old recordings actually made it to the record.
While I'm still not a fan of St. Anger, I'm not going to refute the fact that they're no longer the same band as they were. Kill 'em All came out in like '81 right? Even Justice had to be close to '90 so that gives them more or less 15 years til St. Anger of both musical and personal evolution from a bunch of hoodlums living in LA to whatever kind of adults they are now. Shit is gonna change, and frankly I'd probably get bored if it didn't.
Quote from: Timmy Tucker on September 08, 2008, 07:52:41 PM
The Sword is great! I'm gonna see them with Clutch in Knoxville on Sept 30th. Will be an epic show.
Jealous. I missed Clutch on their last Fall of Troy tour and now this. Dammit.....
Quote from: factorPlayer on September 07, 2008, 01:42:04 AM
I dig the Sword. No nonsense retro-metal. Highly recommend, if you like songs about norse gods and axe-killing. They have a song on Guitar Hero II that is fun [thumbsup]
I like to think of The Sword as the paired down stoner rock version of 3 inches of blood. Whether you want to slay an orc or just hang out, either will do.
St Anger was Metallica's 696...