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Title: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: ducpainter on September 14, 2019, 04:59:19 AM
GP OCTO DI SAN MARINO E DELLA RIVIERA DI RIMINI
MotoGP Qualifying Nr. 1 Classification 2019

Misano Adriatico, Saturday, September 14, 2019

Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   5   Johann ZARCO   FRA   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   KTM   287.2   1'33.147   
2   36   Joan MIR   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   291.1   1'33.485   0.338 / 0.338
3   63   Francesco BAGNAIA   ITA   Pramac Racing   Ducati   288.0   1'33.488   0.341 / 0.003
4   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   LCR Honda CASTROL   Honda   292.6   1'33.516   0.369 / 0.028
5   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   288.7   1'33.522   0.375 / 0.006
6   43   Jack MILLER   AUS   Pramac Racing   Ducati   292.6   1'33.571   0.424 / 0.049
7   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   289.5   1'33.630   0.483 / 0.059
8   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   291.1   1'33.777   0.630 / 0.147
9   88   Miguel OLIVEIRA   POR   Red Bull KTM Tech 3   KTM   284.9   1'34.162   1.015 / 0.385
10   55   Hafizh SYAHRIN   MAL   Red Bull KTM Tech 3   KTM   289.5   1'34.322   1.175 / 0.160
11   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Reale Avintia Racing   Ducati   287.2   1'34.401   1.254 / 0.079
12   53   Tito RABAT   SPA   Reale Avintia Racing   Ducati   290.3   1'34.904   1.757 / 0.503
29   Andrea IANNONE   ITA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   


GP OCTO DI SAN MARINO E DELLA RIVIERA DI RIMINI
MotoGP Qualifying Nr. 2 Classification 2019

Misano Adriatico, Saturday, September 14, 2019

Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   12   Maverick VIÑALES   SPA   Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   287.2   1'32.265   
2   44   Pol ESPARGARO   SPA   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   KTM   291.8   1'32.560   0.295 / 0.295
3   20   Fabio QUARTARARO   FRA   Petronas Yamaha SRT   Yamaha   288.7   1'32.571   0.306 / 0.011
4   21   Franco MORBIDELLI   ITA   Petronas Yamaha SRT   Yamaha   287.2   1'32.710   0.445 / 0.139
5   93   Marc MARQUEZ   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   294.2   1'32.742   0.477 / 0.032
6   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   293.4   1'33.038   0.773 / 0.296
7   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   288.7   1'33.079   0.814 / 0.041
8   5   Johann ZARCO   FRA   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   KTM   288.0   1'33.123   0.858 / 0.044
9   42   Alex RINS   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   292.6   1'33.265   1.000 / 0.142
10   36   Joan MIR   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   290.3   1'33.431   1.166 / 0.166
11   30   Takaaki NAKAGAMI   JPN   LCR Honda IDEMITSU   Honda   288.0   1'33.449   1.184 / 0.018
12   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   293.4   1'33.461   1.196 / 0.012


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: ducpainter on September 14, 2019, 08:46:43 AM
Rossi and Marquez playing games...

https://www.motogp.com/en/video_gallery/2019/09/12/round-13-the-best-videos-from-san-marino-gp/307415?n=308178

Hopefully the link works. It's a free vid.


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: stopintime on September 14, 2019, 09:03:10 AM
"Must be registered"  :-\


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: stopintime on September 14, 2019, 09:10:19 AM
"Must be registered"  :-\

.... which I now remember that I am. "Stealing" a tow from Rossi isn't cool and must be punished  8)


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: ducpainter on September 14, 2019, 09:51:36 AM
"Must be registered"  :-\
Registering, and having a video pass is different. You don't have to pay.

I suppose giving up an email addy is still a price. :-\


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: Speeddog on September 14, 2019, 10:48:27 AM
IIRC, Marquez got a tow off of Rossi to steal Pole away from him at Silverstone, yes?

Marquez playing games with folk that have nothing to lose in jamming him up.
So he got served.

First turn after the start at Misano is not a good place to be mid pack.



Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: duccarlos on September 14, 2019, 07:28:28 PM
MM had already messed up the lap, so Rossi took the opportunity to remind him that he was still there


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: kopfjäger on September 14, 2019, 08:28:11 PM
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/929146/1/marquez-i-dont-know-what-rossis-intention-was-updated


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: duccarlos on September 15, 2019, 04:51:20 AM
MM was playing with his food in the race. Just sitting behind Quatararo until the last lap


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: kopfjäger on September 15, 2019, 08:59:07 AM
MM, FQ and MV were gone early. Nobody else in the field was anywhere near them. My boy lost pace for several laps, then started laying down the fastest laps. Not sure what was going on. (?) Fabio almost ran over Marc on that last lap and that sealed the deal. Classy of the eyetalian fans to boo during the national anthem.  [roll]


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: koko64 on September 15, 2019, 01:03:32 PM
Good summary.
Loving Moto GP.

I didnt hear the booing, but thats dissappointing. One eyed fans shit me as these guys are super athletes, there have been plenty worse than MM.

I thought Rossi deserved a grid penalty for deliberate baulking in practice, and that thought crossed my mind when Quarter  nearly hit MM on that corner. Maybe it was an honest brake, point and shoot save by MM, but if it wasnt, he fooled the commentators.
I think this generation has surpassed the previous one with the advanced skill and racecraft to hide dirty tricks amidst "race incidents", but hasnt the balls to openly punch on in the pits. Kinda like the difference between ice hockey and soccer. Clearly Im from another generation.


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: kopfjäger on September 15, 2019, 02:40:48 PM
Rossi’s helmet pics if you haven’t seen them.

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2019/09/15/valentino-rossi-2019-misano-helmet-revealed-22-photos/


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: koko64 on September 15, 2019, 07:54:35 PM
Bravo [clap]


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: kopfjäger on September 15, 2019, 08:17:20 PM
https://youtu.be/Z_POZu19Uoc


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: Speeddog on September 15, 2019, 09:22:33 PM
Nice brake check.


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: koko64 on September 15, 2019, 09:44:36 PM
So it's not just me.


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: duccarlos on September 16, 2019, 02:12:00 AM
So it's not just me.
Not just you


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: koko64 on September 16, 2019, 02:50:53 AM
Good I wasn't having a senior moment ;D
Deliberate brake checking should be penalised. What do the rules say?


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: ducpainter on September 16, 2019, 02:56:32 AM
Good I wasn't having a senior moment ;D
Deliberate brake checking should be penalised. What do the rules say?
Why?

It's a race tactic, just like a block pass. Should those be penalized, also?


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: koko64 on September 16, 2019, 03:08:20 AM
I reckon there's a difference between the two. You can see the block pass easier than an extra squeeze of the brake and that's where the danger is. A rider sees the block pass but a brake check is more dangerous IMO. There's no brake lights and it's deliberate baulking but using the brake instead of bike position. Deliberate baulking in some circumstances can be sanctioned iirc.


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: ducpainter on September 16, 2019, 03:15:52 AM
I guess we can agree to disagree. [beer]


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: koko64 on September 16, 2019, 03:21:08 AM
I had lots of people complain about my block passes ;D


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: ducpainter on September 16, 2019, 03:30:54 AM
I had lots of people complain about my block passes ;D
LoL :P

The way I see it, it's racing at the highest level, and shouldn't be sanitized. JMO I'm also not promoting the idea that it should get so dangerous as to cause injury. It's a fine line.
Marc schooled Fabio very much like Valentino schooled Marc.
There will be many more great races between these two in the future.

HiHo...off to work.


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: duccarlos on September 16, 2019, 03:36:05 AM
LoL :P

The way I see it, it's racing at the highest level, and shouldn't be sanitized. JMO I'm also not promoting the idea that it should get so dangerous as to cause injury. It's a fine line.
Marc schooled Fabio very much like Valentino schooled Marc.
There will be many more great races between these two in the future.

HiHo...off to work.
This! Like I said above, MM was playing with his food that whole race. He knew that they were the only 2 with the pace. I think MM wanted to see what the new kid has, especially since his biggest competition is in a downswing.


Title: Re: Moto GP Misano...Spoiled
Post by: kopfjäger on September 17, 2019, 07:27:20 PM
https://youtu.be/WUls-Si4KjM


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