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https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2019/10/04/quartararo-heads-yamaha-1-2-3-after-friday-in-thailand/311481

Big crash for Marc
https://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2019/10/04/marquez-suffers-enormous-fp1-crash-at-buriram/311343

Jack's top Ducati rider again.

motogp site is wonky this morning. No pages will open. [bang]

https://www.crash.net/motogp/results/930655/1/thailand-motogp-free-practice-2-results

There you go.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/930659/1/quartararo-beats-vinales-marquez-fights-back

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/930672/1/vinales-yamaha-suffering-less-top-speed-due-track-layout

Thanks. Hopefully I'll be able to watch some of the video clips later today, after work.

The app is working

The fact that MM was even able to get out there for FP2 was extraordinary after that highside.

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/marquez-escapes-injury-thailand-crash/4552364/

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/930676/1/marquez-fiveseconds-i-couldn-t-breathe


“I was close to opening the throttle to try and catch him as he landed!' - Pol Espargaro on Marc Marquez highside.

FP2


1   ^1   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)*   1'30.404s   21/22   324k
2   ˅1   Maverick Viñales   SPA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.193s   18/21   324k
3   ^4   Franco Morbidelli   ITA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.221s   19/21   324k
4   ^1   Jack Miller   AUS   Pramac Ducati (GP19)   +0.294s   17/18   330k
5   ^1   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.329s   20/21   325k
6   ˅3   Marc Marquez   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   +0.487s   3/23   329k
7   ^5   Aleix Espargaro   SPA   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   +0.603s   16/18   325k
8   ˅4   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (GP19)   +0.623s   20/20   329k
9   =   Joan Mir   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)*   +0.682s   17/18   326k
10   ^1   Alex Rins   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   +0.690s   22/23   326k
11   ˅3   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Ducati Team (GP19)   +0.711s   18/19   327k
12   ˅2   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Pramac Ducati (GP18)*   +0.750s   18/19   326k
13   ^5   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +0.940s   18/20   328k
14   =   Takaaki Nakagami   JPN   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +1.020s   20/21   324k
15   ˅2   Pol Espargaro   SPA   Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16)   +1.095s   20/21   325k
16   ˅1   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   +1.108s   17/19   323k
17   ^5   Karel Abraham   CZE   Reale Avintia Ducati (GP18)   +1.184s   18/18   327k
18   ˅2   Tito Rabat   SPA   Reale Avintia Ducati (GP18)   +1.528s   20/21   323k
19   ˅2   Miguel Oliveira   POR   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)*   +1.532s   14/15   320k
20   ˅1   Jorge Lorenzo   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   +1.545s   19/19   328k
21   ˅1   Mika Kallio   FIN   Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16)   +1.587s   19/20   320k
22   ˅1   Hafizh Syahrin   MAL   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)   +2.180s   17/18   322k

MV called Jackass Roadside Assistance at the end of FP2

Saw that  :D Jack's got his post racing career sorted with "Jacks Towing".

MotoGP posted it on their Instagram and Jack responded giving them shit for not showing him doing something similar for Aleix in Aragon.

I guess I could use my phone, but I hate to.

I prefer using a larger screen.

https://youtu.be/SLs9dIsXcMw

Little bit of moisture going on in FP3. MM was upfront early.  [popcorn]

FP3

1   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (GP19)   1'36.250s   13/13   320k
2   Franco Morbidelli   ITA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.824s   16/16   318k
3   Alex Rins   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   +1.394s   14/14   318k
4   Marc Marquez   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   +2.614s   11/13   315k
5   Maverick Viñales   SPA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +2.699s   14/14   306k
6   Karel Abraham   CZE   Reale Avintia Ducati (GP18)   +2.807s   14/14   304k
7   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +3.252s   14/14   296k
8   Joan Mir   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)*   +3.676s   14/14   309k
9   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)*   +3.769s   11/14   315k
10   Miguel Oliveira   POR   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)*   +3.902s   12/14   294k
11   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +3.982s   14/16   312k
12   Jack Miller   AUS   Pramac Ducati (GP19)   +4.039s   11/12   309k
13   Mika Kallio   FIN   Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16)   +4.139s   12/13   300k
14   Takaaki Nakagami   JPN   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +4.213s   16/16   303k
15   Jorge Lorenzo   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   +4.636s   12/13   314k
16   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Pramac Ducati (GP18)*   +5.001s   10/15   313k
17   Tito Rabat   SPA   Reale Avintia Ducati (GP18)   +5.101s   15/16   309k
18   Hafizh Syahrin   MAL   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)   +5.159s   14/14   309k
19   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Ducati Team (GP19)   +5.320s   8/9   308k
20   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   +6.051s   8/8   301k
21   Pol Espargaro   SPA   Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16)   +6.309s   6/10   298k
22   Aleix Espargaro   SPA   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   +9.175s   3/5   287k

PTT THAILAND GRAND PRIX
MotoGP Qualifying Nr. 1 Classification 2019

Buriram, Saturday, October 05, 2019

Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   327.2   1'30.685   
2   44   Pol ESPARGARO   SPA   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   KTM   325.3   1'30.956   0.271 / 0.271
3   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   LCR Honda CASTROL   Honda   329.2   1'30.969   0.284 / 0.013
4   30   Takaaki NAKAGAMI   JPN   LCR Honda IDEMITSU   Honda   323.3   1'31.388   0.703 / 0.419
5   63   Francesco BAGNAIA   ITA   Pramac Racing   Ducati   324.3   1'31.416   0.731 / 0.028
6   29   Andrea IANNONE   ITA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   323.3   1'31.428   0.743 / 0.012
7   88   Miguel OLIVEIRA   POR   Red Bull KTM Tech 3   KTM   320.4   1'31.499   0.814 / 0.071
8   53   Tito RABAT   SPA   Reale Avintia Racing   Ducati   328.2   1'31.554   0.869 / 0.055
9   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   327.2   1'31.605   0.920 / 0.051
10   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Reale Avintia Racing   Ducati   328.2   1'31.773   1.088 / 0.168
11   82   Mika KALLIO   FIN   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   KTM   321.4   1'31.849   1.164 / 0.076
12   55   Hafizh SYAHRIN   MAL   Red Bull KTM Tech 3   KTM   319.5   1'31.979   1.294 / 0.130


PTT THAILAND GRAND PRIX
MotoGP Qualifying Nr. 2 Classification 2019

Buriram, Saturday, October 05, 2019

Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   20   Fabio QUARTARARO   FRA   Petronas Yamaha SRT   Yamaha   326.2   1'29.719   
2   12   Maverick VIÑALES   SPA   Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   325.3   1'29.825   0.106 / 0.106
3   93   Marc MARQUEZ   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   327.2   1'29.931   0.212 / 0.106
4   21   Franco MORBIDELLI   ITA   Petronas Yamaha SRT   Yamaha   321.4   1'30.431   0.712 / 0.500
5   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   330.2   1'30.522   0.803 / 0.091
6   43   Jack MILLER   AUS   Pramac Racing   Ducati   331.2   1'30.597   0.878 / 0.075
7   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   327.2   1'30.692   0.973 / 0.095
8   36   Joan MIR   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   326.2   1'30.735   1.016 / 0.043
9   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   321.4   1'30.741   1.022 / 0.006
10   42   Alex RINS   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   326.2   1'30.778   1.059 / 0.037
11   44   Pol ESPARGARO   SPA   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   KTM   325.3   1'31.065   1.346 / 0.287
12   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   325.3   1'31.258   1.539 / 0.193

Petrucci lifted his game [thumbsup]

https://youtu.be/DL777Wni0qI

Congratulations to MM for the win and championship! He dominated this year. He has finished no less than second in all races except Austin. Consistent and ruthless. He didn’t even let Fabio have this one.

Nice job Rook, but Marc owns your soul right now. These two are gonna have some epic battles over the next several years. My boy bringing up the rear, and the Dovi riding around 10+sec back. Jack Jack Jack!

MM a cut above. When the other Honda riders struggled he won or podiumed. Haven't seen a rider bend a bike to his will like that since Rossi in his prime. Ruthless dominance.
After race footage showed 1/4 devastated.

Jack fought back to 14th. What a disaster.

I keep wondering if MM will switch manufacturers to show he can win on other bikes as riders have done in the past.  It seams Honda has developed a bike that only he can ride at this point, similar to what happened to Ducati with Stoner.
Hopefully Quateraro will not have problems adapting to other bikes like Zarco did, it does not seem like a factory Yamaha ride will open up in the next few years & he is showing that he should be on a factory bike.

I heard the commentators say that based on 1/4's performance, Yamaha would supply upgrades to 1/4's bike to bring it more in line with the factory bikes. While great news that his performance has been rewarded part of me wonders if that's a good idea. If his team can assess and filter the upgrades it could really help him but if the upgrades can't be managed they might unbalance the package that has served him so well.

MM, like Stoner, would likely be able to win on just about any bike. The Yamaha boys have shown that they should stick to that bike if they expect to win anything. Dovi doesn’t get enough credit for being able to win on multiple bikes as well. He’s no MM, but he’s no slouch.

That's a possibility, but he's on the bike that Rossi and Mav hated, and outperforming them. I think his mindset is upgrades are good whether they work, or not.

The fastest part of a motorcycle is the 6 inches between the riders ears.

Amazing how they hated it and he's kicking their arses. Interesting how 1/4 is fast throughout the race while Rossi fades and Mav takes a few laps to get going.

Yamaha should give Fabio that 500rpm's they're holding back & let him beat MM the rest of the year.

MM doesn't need to change to any other manufacturer. The title of GOAT is subjective. Who is he going to win over? Rossi fans? That's never going to happen. In the 2-stroke era this might have been the case, it was important for Stoner, Rossi and JLo. MM is being showered by the deepest pocket in MotoGP. I would never leave them as long as they're producing a bike I could win on. MM is to Honda as Rossi is to Yamaha, and MM will learn from other's mistakes.

Fabio will get a full spec bike next year. I believe he's also going to be smart and learn from Zarco's disaster. He's young and probably realizes that he's being groomed to be Rossi's eventual replacement. Rossi has not been very competitive the past couple of years. The offseason will probably tell him if he's up for another few years of mediocre results while watching Fabio become the new golden boy. If not, then I can see Yamaha making the huge mistake of replacing MV.

He already got the rpm. He used it at Buriram.

I saw an interview with Marquez where he stated he had no intentions of leaving Honda.

Thinks change, for sure, but as long as they give him a bike he can win on, and pay him handsomely...why take a side-wards move?

Regarding 1/4's bike, anyone know what the other potential upgrades could be?

Honda’s bike is crap, but that’s to his advantage. He needs his teammate at a disadvantage as well. I think this is why he liked the idea of JLo. He knew he wouldn’t be able to ride it. If Ducati would have extended JLo’s contract, MM would have needed to deal with both Ducatis

The motgp announcers said Jarvis stated next year he would get an A spec bike like Morbidelli.

He didn't say what the upgrades were, or if the bike would receive upgrades during the season.

Sorry Koko, I was too focused on MM. I believe the factory rolled out a slew of upgrades after the last test. He would likely receive them all at the same time along with the 500 extra RPM

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2019/10/05/zeelenberg-confirms-quartararo-has-more-rpm/311979

Try to keep up. ;D

Not my best day today. Getting used to bifocals and feeling extra old

A spec = Ass
B spec = Better

I was wondering why I was agreeing with you more often than not lately. :-*

 [thumbsup] ;D

So it's the old chassis package that he has? If so it's the fish John West Rejected as Nate said. Maybe it didn't feel as good to the riders but was quicker. Geez the engineers might have been right for once! :o

Get off my lawn!!!

It's last years bike with upgraded engine management. According to Zeelenberg, they didn't do it sooner due to engine limitations. Now that they know where they sit wrt to numbers of good engines it's safe to spin it faster.

I, personally, think that's just the company line, and they were holding off due to the factory boys being so noncompetitive.

Interesting, so we'll learn a lot once 1/4 is on the A bike and I'm sure everyone will be watching to see what happens.

+1 they do themselves no favors when the rookie beats the factory boys regularly.

Dood...you're scaring me. [laugh]

Great minds...

Interestingly, Zarco was doing the same thing last year.

Humans are creatures of habit. The riders get used to a certain 'feel', and some don't seem able to adapt.

Zarco, and Quatararo, had no preconceptions of what it was 'supposed' to be like. They just used their talent to go as fast as possible. Same with Oliviera on the KTM. He was outperforming Zarco at most races.

Zarco became one that couldn't adapt.

https://youtu.be/aZqs8j9zpGA

Yep, read this morning they'd given it to him. Also said he was on his 4th of 5 engines now.

The celebrations upon winning championships has gotten quite inane. Used to be they'd just hand the guy a flag with the #1 on it and let him take a few laps. The pool table thing was just stupid. I thought he was going to hit his head on the lamp a few times. I guess that's the way it has gotten with all big sports spectacles nowadays. The Superbowl is probably the biggest example of this nonsense. Used to be they'd hang a little extra bunting in the stands, have a local high school band play during halftime and play the damn game. Sorry, old and cranky here.

https://youtu.be/037hYHop-E8

https://youtu.be/qRVIrGwBzUo

Some of these crashes seem to NOT inflate the airbags... true?