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Right off,
I have one similar to the first pic, fork cradle type, hate it, it scratches the bike, never feels solid, in the way at times.
2001 monster
Options;
pin under fork
Rubber cradle under fork, (me likey)
Pin in tree
Opinions
Type I have, and hate
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Type I like
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Other type I like
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Other type, not sure it's an option
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Pin into lower triple style, like the last one.
I got one from Lockhart-Phillips.
+1 on last one.
Pin in triple you can do fork work Also, IMO, more stable.
The under the fork end style make me very nervous.
Even on a lift where there's a wheel clamp holding the rear.
Too many degrees of freedom, and falling off a stand is a calamity
If you have a *secure* way of holding the rear
Two jackstands and a piece of pipe and a scrap of hose
Raise front with dodgy under-fork stands
Pipe under H cylinder with hose as a pad, supported each side on a jackstand
Remove dodgy under-fork stands
Commence fork work
Awesome
Thanks guys, do any that you know of have a 7mm pin. Aftermarket trees
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You might check T-Rex: https://www.t-rex-racing.com/Triple-Tree-Stands-s/439.htm
You can buy individual pins and swap them out for whichever bike. Not sure how their measurements work, though.
7mm pin?
Got a picture of the bottom of your stem?
13mm is the smallest pin i can find
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I don't remember the size pins on the Pit Bull I had, but way bigger than 7mm. What lower triple is that?
AEM
It's an 8mm hole
Might just go with the one with pins in the bottom of the forks
Yeah, you gotta go fork bottom style
I'm gonna confirm the lightech span, I like it because it's fixed with pins in the bottom
I can just use my bursig if I need to deal with fork work
Why not have a pin custom turned?
Quote from: ducpainter on April 11, 2020, 12:00:53 PM
Why not have a pin custom turned?
Was thinking of that too
Like the idea of the tree stand
Not a fan of the bursig is stand either. Always in the way
IME anything less than 3/4" pin will bend on an under-triple stand
Quote from: Speeddog on April 11, 2020, 02:50:04 PM
IME anything less than 3/4" pin will bend on an under-triple stand
You may very well be correct, but T-rex sells a 12 mm pin.
12mm is close to 1/2â€
8mm is less then 3/8â€
It will not be strong by any means,
Not sure how much the pin is used for,lift as is stability
I made a pin from a 12mm or 1/2" bolt, cant remember which.
It bent.
Not a 12.9 or grade 8 bolt, but not crapola.
OK...so why not bore out the stem?
That, I think I would very away from. Things are made a way for a reason.
Hmmmmm......... paddock stand I want vs life, that is a hard one
Quote from: Pinion on April 12, 2020, 03:17:48 AM
That, I think I would very away from. Things are made a way for a reason.
Hmmmmm......... paddock stand I want vs life, that is a hard one
That's pretty dramatic. [roll]
The Ducati stem has a big honking hole, and it's perfectly safe.
Some things are the way they are for no good reason at all.
Is the fancy stem thick alloy Vs a hollow steel tube?
Get a pin turned out of cold rolled steel and post photos of results!
I had to do the same thing for my previous S2R (don't have a new triple tree stand yet). Worked out well! Granted, I was going bigger instead of smaller....drew it up in Fusion 360 and had a friend of my father in law fab it.
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I was actually thinking titanium
I think anything that's not cast might work
Keep in mind the stress on the pin is on the way up and down. Speeddog's 12mm. bent and 8mm. is a lot smaller.
Quote from: howie on April 12, 2020, 04:47:14 AM
Keep in mind the stress on the pin is on the way up and down. Speeddog's 12mm. bent and 8mm. is a lot smaller.
Yes
Also consider cast is much weaker then rolled, titanium has higher stress values
Honestly if you consider using a valve, nipping it off and drill out a receiver
I have used a valve out of a 350 to adjust coil over compression on off road truck on the trail
I think we need to send this to This Old Tony and see a pin made.
Here's my 2 cents since I use the last front lift in your original post; the pin question aside, I've used the lower section with a 1/2" dia. x 2' piece of solid mild steel rod through the front wheel spindle and same way on the rear SSS also for more stability; is doesn't allow for wheel work like that; but is more stable than the pin.
With the pin its less stable, and note; the stand can rotate if you not watching it all the time; as it did on me once, while I was working on the front breaks; I caught it as she went over on top of me; but had momentum and weight as it went down gently on top of me got a little pinned and squished and wrenched my back trying to stop it. I believe they recommend using a back stand to help stabilize and I have used the same rod with jack stands on the rear and front triple pinned. Also its nice that with the pin you can remove the front wheel.
I think the under triple stands for the bikes with adjustable steering stems hooks the lower triple.
https://www.pit-bull.com/motorcycle-stands/front-stands/hybrid-ducati-headlift-front-stand-f0100-500 (https://www.pit-bull.com/motorcycle-stands/front-stands/hybrid-ducati-headlift-front-stand-f0100-500)