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Motocreations Boomtubes on my 05 S4R. Can you see um?
(http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m334/deruyri/Boomtubesrear2-1.jpg)

How about now?
(http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m334/deruyri/BoomtubesExhaustside-1.jpg)

Nicest set I have ever seen, if I may say so myself!!! THANKS MOTOCREATIONS!! This bike runs awesome now. PCIII was added with custom maps. It is loud but not obnoxious.
(http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m334/deruyri/Boomtubescloseup.jpg)

No, but that flat center of your tire is pretty heinous. Find a corner now and then, brotha. [laugh]

IMO, nothing improves the looks of a Monster like getting the exhaust completely underneath the bike.  I wish my RR exhaust was as sleek as the boomtubes, but keeping the cans from blocking the rear tire sure looks swell.

sweet sweet sweet sweet [bacon]

Has motocreations finally released those as  a std production line or were those custom made?

whoa!  i guess mine aren't so rare anymore!

when did you get those put on?

I tried to post htose pics for you 3 times today and it just woudlnt load. kept giving me a disconnect error. Glad you got them up though casue thye look FREGGING SWEET. If you shortened them just an inch, i cant inmagine there would be too many clearnace issues. I really want mine to be like that! YOutube video?

sound clips plz  ;D

Flat spot... No kidding, I'll attribute that to the three dyno runs  ;D. Honestly, I prefer twisties, just getting there is a flat run.

The exhaust I have on the bike right now is custom, but awaiting the production run that should be happening real soon. Those will be stainless, but have many color options...

Nope, I'm hoping to be rare for now. I have a feeling these will be popular!!!

Considering how long it took me to post the pics... I am working on sound blurbs or youtube on my days off...More to come...

Look good!  I'm still waiting to see a dyno graph on the S4Rs to see how much if any they loose over the shot-gun termi system.   I plan on building my own, but I'll wait and see if they are on par power wise with the termi's before I waste my time.

Any sound clips?  Could you compare it to something else, a harley perhaps?

We prototyped the S4R BoomTubes against Rick's Ducati Monster using what we have learned over the past few years in building them (and recent variations / simulation modeling we have done and validated).  He had a set of Zard's on there before.  He sold them and thus I did him a handmade set of BoomTubes identical to the units sent to manufacturing until production stainless steel are delivered. (We are hoping to do three variations of outlet tips)

Power / dyno?  We beat the Zard's he had on there on the first dyno pass with BoomTubes.  PCIII and very custom fuel map is required though for my exhaust systems.  It's why we are doing all the testing to build the maps for enthusiasts and will create baselines/variations for customers once we start shipping.

Ask Rick as to his before w/Zard's and after with BoomTubes experience.  Sound levels in-town and out in the country.  And his experiences after his MotoGP weekend at Laguna Seca.  (I wish I could reprint the e-mail he sent me -- it was great!)

Status?  Tooling is finished and we are awaiting the start of the production queue for the S4R and S4RS systems. (Others to follow)  Unfortunately my vendor is doing a 140K unit production run on the same assembly line mine are to be produced on and thus the delay we are experiencing.  I wanted BoomTubes to be built in the USA via CNC bending / CNC TIG welding methods -- I don't want to offshore produce them or sacrifice quality standards that I demand.

And BoomTubes do not sound at all like a Harley with straight pipes... not at all!

I'm still trying to get sound/video clips from all my BoomTubes customers over the years -- there is some evolvement as they went.  I'll just YouTube (like I did recently with my MotoCreations DesmoDevil bike) or post on my website when done.  We will video all the final production systems once they are installed and make available with dynocharts, etc.

I'm off to Chicago / EAA Oshkosh for the next week to have fun and more meetings (we got some carbonfiber parts happening soon!)

Was the bike custom mapped before the boom tubes?

Are the s2r series still on track for august? What are the three different tip options... or is that top secret? amazing job  [thumbsup]

Tell me about it.  Luckily, I have some "twisty methadone" 14 miles away, but to get to anyplace really fun (and NOT 115 degrees) is a couple hundred miles.

Keep up the good work. Really looking forward to hearing some  sound bites.  btw, is an M900 version in the works?  I loves me the looks of my RR pipes, but I'd really like something that sounds more like a Ducati.

Thats promising to hear, although the above bike isn't a Testa motor.  How about a dyno graph?

these look so amazing.. cant wait to hear a soundclip.

hope ones for a m750 wont be far behind.

Wanted to take video, but now I have figured easiest way for you to hear this would be digital audio. No vid this time!!!

Look for the post around 7pm Thursday night!!

First i want to hear them...

then i want them to make them for the 696.

then i want to buy them.

They look a thousand times better than slip-ons.

+1...... So what is the answer?

Prior to the Boomtubes I had Zard. They were not mapped, ran very lean. Now, the power band is very driveable and consistent. They are tolerable at low rpm, but... t open up above 8,000rpm!!!!

1:28am friday. YOU LIEDDD!!!!!  >:(

Ducnewby,

You live in Washington right?

Brian

Liar liar!!!!! Yep guilty. Sorry, will go home right now and see if I can figure this digital recording crap out.

Nope Northern California. Only one state off...

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In the process of attemtping to download sound clip as we speak...

Zed... Just emailed sound clip to those of you who had an email in their profile. Couldn't get the sound clip to post here. If you want a copy, pm me your email and I will get it sent to you.

I am planning on getting a sound clip of me in motion on the bike to give you an idea what it sounds like at higher rpm's.

So....the properly tuned bike made more power with Boomtubes, compared to an improperly tuned bike with Zards......No surprise there!

Nothing against Boomtubes or the creator, but these blanket statements implying that Pipe A is better than Pipe B in terms of performance, are just totally misleading. 

after 8000rpm i hit redline, so that point is moot to me. Damn S4Rs...... i wish i could upload it, but i have no way to, but the bike does sound BADASS!!! Though, i dont know what i hearing since it sounds like its all low rumble grunt. lol Wht i thought was the exahust now sounds like the clutch.

How much are these going to cost when they reach production?  They would be great on my M900.

I don't think Mark said anything about pipe A being better than pipe B. I will have to check his quote. This pipe set-up is personal preference. Just like anything else you can bolt on to these machines. Everyone has their own little dream of what the perfect Monster will look like. I had an opportunity to get these pipes, and love them. Mark mapped the PCIII to the pipes so that any pipes sold in the future will have a PCIII available with maps all done (or a close map to start with).

So... misleading... Not quite. These pipes look good imho, sound awesome again imo, and don't look like someone took a hacksaw to the stock pipes.

So, I stand corrected. Mark did reference that we beat the Zards on the dyno. I think you are taking this out of context. But, you were right in saying what you did. Bottom line is this, I loved my Zards before I traded them for the Boomtubes. I was looking for a style change, not necessarily a performance change My bike is fast enough!! The bike was supposedly tuned to match the Zards prior to my purchasing the bike. It came with the zards. So, I really had no control over the performance aspect of this bike until I gave it to Mark for the tooling of the BT's.

All that matters is that you like them.  There is always a balance between form and function, you pay your money and make your choices.  I only reacted because the statement was regarding a relative performance difference, which until a fair comparison is made, is still unknown.

Beating the zards by how much (.5hp, 5hp?), and on what motor?  Why is this dyno graph so elusive to come by?  I wanna see a dyno graph.

Its not worth asking to see the dyno results, because they are irrelevant.  The comparison was not valid, since no effort was put into tuning the engine for best performance with the Zard exhaust installed.

For those of us interested in the BoomTubes I think the comparison to Zards or just about any other exhaust is irrellevant.  Maybe the Quat D exbox or the straight udders but only because they're underbike solutions.  Otherwise- it's a style thing and the BoomTubes are very unique.  Just my $.016 of course.

+1


im all for upping the performance and all, but i have really wanted to get an exhaust that got rid of the cans cause i think it looks better without them and this is by far in my opinion the best looking set that will get me what i want. [thumbsup]

Ducnewby,

I love the Boomtubes and have been talking to Mark about them on a regular basis. I live about 20 min from his shop so he says I should be one of the first to get one of the production exhausts. I'm alittle cofused as to what you need for the ECU setup when doing this. Did you have to get a DP ECU as well as the power commander?

Hell, do these badboys come with snorkels? i plan on riding in ankle deep water from time to time!

I don't follow your line of thinking.  Who is going to spend $15k on a motorcycle to install an exhaust and loose performance?

Function>Form 

I love the way the BT look, but I'm not going to kill performance just to "look" cool.

I can compare the termi's or arrows to an underbike style, but so far the underbike exhausts havn't stacked up.  Mostly because of tube diameter and flow.....thats why I'm interested in these.

If we are talking about function over form, why would you ride a naked bike?

Best. Question. Ever.

Why do you think they will lose power? Over stock? No way. They "may" not make as much as some other exhausts, but with these engines, we are talking about very minute differences....

I'll tell you one thing, I am glad I did not have to invest in the DP ecu. I heard they are spendy. Depending on the model year, I think starting in 2006/7 you have to buy the DP ecu. You may want to check with the Ducatisti on the forums on that one.

I love these exhaust. The wifey and I went on about a 3-4 hour ride yesterday and I didn't wear ear plugs so we could talk and such without screaming or taking off helmets. It's loud, but a cool kinda loud. It really turns heads. Mark is a stand-up guy and I know for a fact he wouldn't sell an inferior product. Will this exhaust perform better than the rest, not sure, but it WILL give them a run for their money at far less cost. Looking at the price of the BT's at 699, a far cry cheaper than termi's or arrows.

If I was concerned about performance I wouldn't have gotten rid of my CBR. I just think these bikes we ride are crazy sexy. I want the Boomtubes because they are unique.

truer words were never spoken.  well- none that I'll repeat and would make any sense in the context of this discussion but you know what I mean   [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

Not really.  Obviously visual appeal counts for something, but if it was all about that, I'd have just bought a S2r 800 and called it a day.

Considering what the stock body weighs on my 999, the monster is a better "start" for an all around performer in the city.  I'm the weirdo who is having Mag triples made up to drop the weight more up front (and change the offset )

If I was concerned about high speed riding that much, I'd be more concerned with aero (not that bikes really have good aero to begin with), and I'd hop on my 999 and go.    I'm more concerned with acceleration.  Torque = acceleration, and therefore the results of a particular exhaust are important to me.

I'm not concerned with how they stack up against stock, I just would like to know what kind of power the bike makes on a dyno....and a before/after would be nice too.

Sorry if questioning a product has gotten people upset. [/b]

I'm not talking about killing performance on a stock bike.  I'm talking about reducing the performance from the bike that I've already realized with the termi's, dial'd cams, squish, etc...

Weight would be a good thing to publish as well on the pipes.  Obviously they drop weight off the stock exhaust, but how much? 

I don't really like the twin can exhaust on my bike visually, but it works in the function department.  Getting the exhaust to look better, dropping weight, and keeping the power I have would be a win-win.

THATS why I'm wanting to see the numbers.

The stock weight of the exhaust is about 24-25lbs. 14 of that is up high in the cans themselves. Mine is an early, pre-production model(read heavier mild steel) and I think Mark says it weighs about 9lbs. ALL of that weight is below COG...