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Title: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: kopfjäger on April 28, 2023, 08:33:22 AM
FP2

1   ^4   Aleix Espargaro   SPA   Aprilia Racing (RS-GP23)   1'36.708s   21/22   290k
2   ^8   Maverick Viñales   SPA   Aprilia Racing (RS-GP23)   +0.002s   24/25   293k
3   ^5   Jack Miller   AUS   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   +0.127s   26/27   293k
4   ^7   Johann Zarco   FRA   Pramac Ducati (GP22)   +0.188s   21/22   290k
5   ^8   Miguel Oliveira   POR   RNF Aprilia (RS-GP22)   +0.248s   24/25   291k
6   ^1   Alex Marquez   SPA   Gresini Ducati (GP22)   +0.333s   22/23   290k
7   ^7   Marco Bezzecchi   ITA   Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22)   +0.466s   23/24   293k
8   ^1   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Ducati Lenovo (GP23)   +0.525s   20/21   290k
9   ˅8   Dani Pedrosa   SPA   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   +0.543s   23/24   298k
10   ˅6   Luca Marini   ITA   Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22)   +0.568s   22/25   290k
11   ˅9   Jorge Martin   SPA   Pramac Ducati (GP23)   +0.598s   24/28   293k
12   ˅6   Brad Binder   RSA   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   +0.682s   21/24   293k
13   ^4   Raul Fernandez   SPA   RNF Aprilia (RS-GP22)   +0.695s   19/20   289k
14   ˅11   Takaaki Nakagami   JPN   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +0.775s   25/26   288k
15   ^3   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.797s   25/28   292k
16   ^4   Franco Morbidelli   ITA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.992s   21/25   291k
17   ^2   Fabio Di Giannantonio   ITA   Gresini Ducati (GP22)   +1.152s   19/24   288k
18   ˅2   Stefan Bradl   GER   Team HRC (RC213V)   +1.165s   24/25   290k
19   ˅4   Joan Mir   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   +1.208s   22/22   288k
20   ^2   Enea Bastianini   ITA   Ducati Lenovo (GP23)   +1.277s   17/17   291k
21   ˅9   Alex Rins   SPA   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +1.424s   22/24   289k
22   ^1   Jonas Folger   GER   Tech3 GASGAS (RC16)   +1.990s   19/20   289k
23   ˅2   Augusto Fernandez   SPA   Tech3 GASGAS (RC16)*   +2.220s   21/24   287k
24   =   Iker Lecuona   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   +2.566s   21/24   288k


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: kopfjäger on April 28, 2023, 08:36:26 AM
Dani Pedrosa stunned by his own speed at Spanish MotoGP: “I never expected it!”


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: ducpainter on April 28, 2023, 01:15:14 PM
Go Dani!


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: ducpainter on April 29, 2023, 07:35:45 AM
First start Red flagged due to a 4 rider crash at turn 2. Bezzechi's bike on fire. Everyone restarted for the 11 lap race.

Binder is as crazy as Jack.

Full lock knee, on the ground, tire smoking...just awesome.

1 12 33 Brad BINDER RSA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 18'07.055 161.1
2 9 1 Francesco BAGNAIA ITA Ducati Lenovo Team DUCATI 18'07.483 161.0 0.428
3 7 43 Jack MILLER AUS Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 18'07.735 161.0 0.680
4 6 89 Jorge MARTIN SPA Prima Pramac Racing DUCATI 18'07.908 160.9 0.853
5 5 88 Miguel OLIVEIRA POR CryptoDATA RNF MotoGP Team APRILIA 18'08.693 160.8 1.638
6 4 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 18'08.793 160.8 1.738
7 3 12 Maverick VIÑALES SPA Aprilia Racing APRILIA 18'10.303 160.6 3.248
8 2 5 Johann ZARCO FRA Prima Pramac Racing DUCATI 18'10.435 160.6 3.380
9 1 72 Marco BEZZECCHI ITA Mooney VR46 Racing Team DUCATI 18'12.766 160.2 5.711
10 10 Luca MARINI ITA Mooney VR46 Racing Team DUCATI 18'14.070 160.0 7.015
11 49 Fabio DI GIANNANTONIO ITA Gresini Racing MotoGP DUCATI 18'14.229 160.0 7.174
12 20 Fabio QUARTARARO FRA Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP YAMAHA 18'14.522 160.0 7.467
13 42 Alex RINS SPA LCR Honda CASTROL HONDA 18'16.922 159.6 9.867
14 25 Raul FERNANDEZ SPA CryptoDATA RNF MotoGP Team APRILIA 18'18.605 159.4 11.550
15 6 Stefan BRADL GER HRC Team HONDA 18'22.510 158.8 15.455
16 21 Franco MORBIDELLI ITA Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP YAMAHA 18'22.904 158.8 15.849
17 37 Augusto FERNANDEZ SPA GASGAS Factory Racing Tech3 KTM 18'23.024 158.7 15.969
18 27 Iker LECUONA SPA Repsol Honda Team HONDA 18'32.411 157.4 25.356
19 94 Jonas FOLGER GER GASGAS Factory Racing Tech3 KTM 18'32.585 157.4 25.530
Not classified
36 Joan MIR SPA Repsol Honda Team HONDA 11'44.720 158.1 4 laps
41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Aprilia Racing APRILIA 8'17.106 160.1 6 laps
73 Alex MARQUEZ SPA Gresini Racing MotoGP DUCATI 5'03.117 157.5 8 laps
30 Takaaki NAKAGAMI JPN LCR Honda IDEMITSU HONDA 5'03.470 157.4 8 laps


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: kopfjäger on April 29, 2023, 09:51:25 AM
Whew! What a make the beast with two backsn battle up front. Binder is a savage!  [clap] [bow_down] Dani looked strong and was laying down the fastest lap times.


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: koko64 on April 29, 2023, 02:39:11 PM
When asked if he would make a come back. No! Pedrosa said he is really enjoying his current job. He's doing a bloody good job of it too from the look of the podium.


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: koko64 on April 29, 2023, 02:40:53 PM
Whew! What a make the beast with two backsn battle up front. Binder is a savage!  [clap] [bow_down] Dani looked strong and was laying down the fastest lap times.

Binder hit the steering lock stop on that pass. Said he'd be happy to never have to do that again.
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1025112/1/binder-bagnaia-miller-chat-revealed-us-two-idiots


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: kopfjäger on April 29, 2023, 02:55:13 PM
 [clap] [clap] Those two would be a blast to hangout with.


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: kopfjäger on April 29, 2023, 02:56:25 PM
https://youtu.be/MdxE7JtsGGM


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: ducpainter on April 29, 2023, 03:06:09 PM
[clap] [clap] Those two would be a blast to hangout with.
No doubt.


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: koko64 on April 29, 2023, 05:47:28 PM
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1025100/1/update-franco-morbidelli-penalised-alex-marquez-clash-appeal-rejected


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: koko64 on April 29, 2023, 07:13:51 PM
1/4 said at times he lapped half a second slower than last year.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1025108/1/quartararo-never-expected-be-slow-proper-disaster


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: kopfjäger on April 29, 2023, 08:45:04 PM
They are struggling big time. Throw everything out, and start over.


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: ducpainter on April 30, 2023, 08:36:09 AM
Another red flag plagued race. Fabio went into turn 2 hot and took himself and Oliveira out. Miguel suffered a dislocated shoulder.

Brad led most of the race, but couldn't stop Pecco. Jack got another third place.

1 25 1 Francesco BAGNAIA ITA Ducati Lenovo Team DUCATI 39'29.085 161.3
2 20 33 Brad BINDER RSA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 39'29.306 161.2 0.221
3 16 43 Jack MILLER AUS Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 39'30.204 161.2 1.119
4 13 89 Jorge MARTIN SPA Prima Pramac Racing DUCATI 39'31.027 161.1 1.942
5 11 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Aprilia Racing APRILIA 39'33.845 160.9 4.760
6 10 10 Luca MARINI ITA Mooney VR46 Racing Team DUCATI 39'35.414 160.8 6.329
7 9 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 39'35.456 160.8 6.371
8 8 73 Alex MARQUEZ SPA Gresini Racing MotoGP DUCATI 39'44.037 160.2 14.952
9 7 30 Takaaki NAKAGAMI JPN LCR Honda IDEMITSU HONDA 39'44.777 160.2 15.692
10 6 20 Fabio QUARTARARO FRA Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP YAMAHA 39'44.931 160.2 15.846
11 5 21 Franco MORBIDELLI ITA Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP YAMAHA 39'46.294 160.1 17.209
12 4 49 Fabio DI GIANNANTONIO ITA Gresini Racing MotoGP DUCATI 39'46.996 160.0 17.911
13 3 37 Augusto FERNANDEZ SPA GASGAS Factory Racing Tech3 KTM 39'48.095 160.0 19.010
14 2 6 Stefan BRADL GER HRC Team HONDA 39'56.379 159.4 27.294
15 1 25 Raul FERNANDEZ SPA CryptoDATA RNF MotoGP Team APRILIA 40'05.456 158.8 36.371
16 27 Iker LECUONA SPA Repsol Honda Team HONDA 40'05.838 158.8 36.753
17 94 Jonas FOLGER GER GASGAS Factory Racing Tech3 KTM 40'16.231 158.1 47.146
Not classified
12 Maverick VIÑALES SPA Aprilia Racing APRILIA 37'59.422 160.6 1 lap
5 Johann ZARCO FRA Prima Pramac Racing DUCATI 26'24.180 160.8 8 laps
72 Marco BEZZECCHI ITA Mooney VR46 Racing Team DUCATI 26'29.418 160.2 8 laps
42 Alex RINS SPA LCR Honda CASTROL HONDA 3'57.849 133.8 22 laps
36 Joan MIR SPA Repsol Honda Team HONDA 1'48.333 146.9 23 laps
Not finished first lap
88 Miguel OLIVEIRA POR CryptoDATA RNF MotoGP Team APRILIA


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: koko64 on April 30, 2023, 10:27:19 AM
Talk about twists and turns in the championship! Pecco back on top by a good margin. Great to see KTM right in the game.

Those sprint races have created a new normal in aggressive riding. The riders have adjusted their competitive intensity accordingly with more crashes, more injuries, more penalties. Combine it with difficulty overtaking, tyre issues, etc, not only are the riders and teams stretched, but also the stewards! Jack was lucky not to get pinged like Pecco.

Tardozzi went right off about the stewards! [laugh] He made a comment about Playstation racing vs men's racing ;D
A meeting of all riders with the stewards has been scheduled.



Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: ducpainter on April 30, 2023, 10:54:12 AM
I think the stewards will take all the excitement out of the racing unless some 'standards' are set.

The old saying 'rubbing in racing' will mean you get to lose a place or a long lap penalty.

I think there should be no penalty unless someone crashes. There's a huge difference between a touch, and taking someone out. Take a guy out...you're DQ'ed. Plain, and simple.

JMO, and worth what you paid for it. ;D


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: koko64 on April 30, 2023, 11:12:04 AM
 ;D
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1025274/1/raging-ducati-boss-demands-stewards-revise-decision-hard-sport


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: koko64 on April 30, 2023, 11:24:05 AM
I think the stewards will take all the excitement out of the racing unless some 'standards' are set.

The old saying 'rubbing in racing' will mean you get to lose a place or a long lap penalty.

I think there should be no penalty unless someone crashes. There's a huge difference between a touch, and taking someone out. Take a guy out...you're DQ'ed. Plain, and simple.

JMO, and worth what you paid for it. ;D

Yeah, no harm no foul.
People complained about me at club level  ;D

The bosses caused this trying to squeeze extra $$$ out of "the show" with the sprints and the riders are penalised when they rise to the challenge.


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: ducpainter on April 30, 2023, 12:50:06 PM
Yeah, no harm no foul.
People complained about me at club level  ;D

The bosses caused this trying to squeeze extra $$$ out of "the show" with the sprints and the riders are penalised when they rise to the challenge.
Exactly, however...all these guys know what will work, and what won't. If they're over exuberant...they know it. My opinion only...Fabio is a lying sack of shit. He was trying to pass.


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: kopfjäger on April 30, 2023, 04:33:26 PM
Holy Schnikes! This season is off to a bang. Those 3 are putting on one hell of a show. Fabio is in big trouble, and I make the beast with two backsn love it. Dive bomed that turn for sure, then couldn’t even do the long lap penalty correctly. Pedrosa!


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: kopfjäger on April 30, 2023, 05:07:17 PM
https://youtu.be/8xg9HfYP9hk


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: kopfjäger on April 30, 2023, 08:10:09 PM
Binder hit the steering lock stop on that pass. Said he'd be happy to never have to do that again.
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1025112/1/binder-bagnaia-miller-chat-revealed-us-two-idiots

Here’s the video of that exchange if you haven’t seen it.

https://youtu.be/6XgAaIhspDw


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: koko64 on April 30, 2023, 08:59:29 PM
Good natured banter and respect. KTM boys are a couple of hooligans [laugh]


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: koko64 on April 30, 2023, 09:03:50 PM
Exactly, however...all these guys know what will work, and what won't. If they're over exuberant...they know it. My opinion only...Fabio is a lying sack of shit. He was trying to pass.

Between us, I've never been a Fabio fan.
Really taking a liking to Binder. Pecco appears to be a gentleman.


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: ducpainter on May 01, 2023, 02:33:57 AM
;D
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1025274/1/raging-ducati-boss-demands-stewards-revise-decision-hard-sport
Freddie doesn't care what he thinks, either. :P


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: kopfjäger on May 01, 2023, 08:35:21 AM
Good natured banter and respect. KTM boys are a couple of hooligans [laugh]

 [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: koko64 on May 01, 2023, 09:01:04 AM
And it just gets better. First Marc then Fabio.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1025352/1/miguel-oliveira-s-shoulder-damage-bigger-expected


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: koko64 on May 01, 2023, 03:29:33 PM
Jack mentioned how impressed he was with Dani's ride and development work. He said however, that he has a different set up on the bike to Pedrosa as he's 30kg heavier ;D


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: koko64 on May 03, 2023, 02:05:59 AM
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/hallelujah-sideways-motogp-is-back/?fbclid=IwAR1q503a68vqST1_w24OL7YnTc_7EBmHRy27BepZIfwyQ8YjjpTbFIBmajM


Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt)
Post by: kopfjäger on May 03, 2023, 05:54:40 PM
 [clap] [clap] Those three are the show at this point. Going for broke every lap, and what makes it even better is they’re having fun. For now anyway.


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