Title: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: kopfjäger on April 28, 2023, 08:33:22 AM FP2
1 ^4 Aleix Espargaro SPA Aprilia Racing (RS-GP23) 1'36.708s 21/22 290k 2 ^8 Maverick Viñales SPA Aprilia Racing (RS-GP23) +0.002s 24/25 293k 3 ^5 Jack Miller AUS Red Bull KTM (RC16) +0.127s 26/27 293k 4 ^7 Johann Zarco FRA Pramac Ducati (GP22) +0.188s 21/22 290k 5 ^8 Miguel Oliveira POR RNF Aprilia (RS-GP22) +0.248s 24/25 291k 6 ^1 Alex Marquez SPA Gresini Ducati (GP22) +0.333s 22/23 290k 7 ^7 Marco Bezzecchi ITA Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22) +0.466s 23/24 293k 8 ^1 Francesco Bagnaia ITA Ducati Lenovo (GP23) +0.525s 20/21 290k 9 ˅8 Dani Pedrosa SPA Red Bull KTM (RC16) +0.543s 23/24 298k 10 ˅6 Luca Marini ITA Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22) +0.568s 22/25 290k 11 ˅9 Jorge Martin SPA Pramac Ducati (GP23) +0.598s 24/28 293k 12 ˅6 Brad Binder RSA Red Bull KTM (RC16) +0.682s 21/24 293k 13 ^4 Raul Fernandez SPA RNF Aprilia (RS-GP22) +0.695s 19/20 289k 14 ˅11 Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V) +0.775s 25/26 288k 15 ^3 Fabio Quartararo FRA Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) +0.797s 25/28 292k 16 ^4 Franco Morbidelli ITA Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) +0.992s 21/25 291k 17 ^2 Fabio Di Giannantonio ITA Gresini Ducati (GP22) +1.152s 19/24 288k 18 ˅2 Stefan Bradl GER Team HRC (RC213V) +1.165s 24/25 290k 19 ˅4 Joan Mir SPA Repsol Honda (RC213V) +1.208s 22/22 288k 20 ^2 Enea Bastianini ITA Ducati Lenovo (GP23) +1.277s 17/17 291k 21 ˅9 Alex Rins SPA LCR Honda (RC213V) +1.424s 22/24 289k 22 ^1 Jonas Folger GER Tech3 GASGAS (RC16) +1.990s 19/20 289k 23 ˅2 Augusto Fernandez SPA Tech3 GASGAS (RC16)* +2.220s 21/24 287k 24 = Iker Lecuona SPA Repsol Honda (RC213V) +2.566s 21/24 288k Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: kopfjäger on April 28, 2023, 08:36:26 AM Dani Pedrosa stunned by his own speed at Spanish MotoGP: “I never expected it!”
Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: ducpainter on April 28, 2023, 01:15:14 PM Go Dani!
Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: ducpainter on April 29, 2023, 07:35:45 AM First start Red flagged due to a 4 rider crash at turn 2. Bezzechi's bike on fire. Everyone restarted for the 11 lap race.
Binder is as crazy as Jack. Full lock knee, on the ground, tire smoking...just awesome. 1 12 33 Brad BINDER RSA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 18'07.055 161.1 2 9 1 Francesco BAGNAIA ITA Ducati Lenovo Team DUCATI 18'07.483 161.0 0.428 3 7 43 Jack MILLER AUS Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 18'07.735 161.0 0.680 4 6 89 Jorge MARTIN SPA Prima Pramac Racing DUCATI 18'07.908 160.9 0.853 5 5 88 Miguel OLIVEIRA POR CryptoDATA RNF MotoGP Team APRILIA 18'08.693 160.8 1.638 6 4 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 18'08.793 160.8 1.738 7 3 12 Maverick VIÑALES SPA Aprilia Racing APRILIA 18'10.303 160.6 3.248 8 2 5 Johann ZARCO FRA Prima Pramac Racing DUCATI 18'10.435 160.6 3.380 9 1 72 Marco BEZZECCHI ITA Mooney VR46 Racing Team DUCATI 18'12.766 160.2 5.711 10 10 Luca MARINI ITA Mooney VR46 Racing Team DUCATI 18'14.070 160.0 7.015 11 49 Fabio DI GIANNANTONIO ITA Gresini Racing MotoGP DUCATI 18'14.229 160.0 7.174 12 20 Fabio QUARTARARO FRA Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP YAMAHA 18'14.522 160.0 7.467 13 42 Alex RINS SPA LCR Honda CASTROL HONDA 18'16.922 159.6 9.867 14 25 Raul FERNANDEZ SPA CryptoDATA RNF MotoGP Team APRILIA 18'18.605 159.4 11.550 15 6 Stefan BRADL GER HRC Team HONDA 18'22.510 158.8 15.455 16 21 Franco MORBIDELLI ITA Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP YAMAHA 18'22.904 158.8 15.849 17 37 Augusto FERNANDEZ SPA GASGAS Factory Racing Tech3 KTM 18'23.024 158.7 15.969 18 27 Iker LECUONA SPA Repsol Honda Team HONDA 18'32.411 157.4 25.356 19 94 Jonas FOLGER GER GASGAS Factory Racing Tech3 KTM 18'32.585 157.4 25.530 Not classified 36 Joan MIR SPA Repsol Honda Team HONDA 11'44.720 158.1 4 laps 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Aprilia Racing APRILIA 8'17.106 160.1 6 laps 73 Alex MARQUEZ SPA Gresini Racing MotoGP DUCATI 5'03.117 157.5 8 laps 30 Takaaki NAKAGAMI JPN LCR Honda IDEMITSU HONDA 5'03.470 157.4 8 laps Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: kopfjäger on April 29, 2023, 09:51:25 AM Whew! What a make the beast with two backsn battle up front. Binder is a savage! [clap] [bow_down] Dani looked strong and was laying down the fastest lap times.
Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: koko64 on April 29, 2023, 02:39:11 PM When asked if he would make a come back. No! Pedrosa said he is really enjoying his current job. He's doing a bloody good job of it too from the look of the podium.
Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: koko64 on April 29, 2023, 02:40:53 PM Whew! What a make the beast with two backsn battle up front. Binder is a savage! [clap] [bow_down] Dani looked strong and was laying down the fastest lap times. Binder hit the steering lock stop on that pass. Said he'd be happy to never have to do that again. https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1025112/1/binder-bagnaia-miller-chat-revealed-us-two-idiots Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: kopfjäger on April 29, 2023, 02:55:13 PM [clap] [clap] Those two would be a blast to hangout with.
Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: kopfjäger on April 29, 2023, 02:56:25 PM https://youtu.be/MdxE7JtsGGM
Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: ducpainter on April 29, 2023, 03:06:09 PM [clap] [clap] Those two would be a blast to hangout with. No doubt.Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: koko64 on April 29, 2023, 05:47:28 PM https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1025100/1/update-franco-morbidelli-penalised-alex-marquez-clash-appeal-rejected
Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: koko64 on April 29, 2023, 07:13:51 PM 1/4 said at times he lapped half a second slower than last year.
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1025108/1/quartararo-never-expected-be-slow-proper-disaster Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: kopfjäger on April 29, 2023, 08:45:04 PM They are struggling big time. Throw everything out, and start over.
Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: ducpainter on April 30, 2023, 08:36:09 AM Another red flag plagued race. Fabio went into turn 2 hot and took himself and Oliveira out. Miguel suffered a dislocated shoulder.
Brad led most of the race, but couldn't stop Pecco. Jack got another third place. 1 25 1 Francesco BAGNAIA ITA Ducati Lenovo Team DUCATI 39'29.085 161.3 2 20 33 Brad BINDER RSA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 39'29.306 161.2 0.221 3 16 43 Jack MILLER AUS Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 39'30.204 161.2 1.119 4 13 89 Jorge MARTIN SPA Prima Pramac Racing DUCATI 39'31.027 161.1 1.942 5 11 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Aprilia Racing APRILIA 39'33.845 160.9 4.760 6 10 10 Luca MARINI ITA Mooney VR46 Racing Team DUCATI 39'35.414 160.8 6.329 7 9 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 39'35.456 160.8 6.371 8 8 73 Alex MARQUEZ SPA Gresini Racing MotoGP DUCATI 39'44.037 160.2 14.952 9 7 30 Takaaki NAKAGAMI JPN LCR Honda IDEMITSU HONDA 39'44.777 160.2 15.692 10 6 20 Fabio QUARTARARO FRA Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP YAMAHA 39'44.931 160.2 15.846 11 5 21 Franco MORBIDELLI ITA Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP YAMAHA 39'46.294 160.1 17.209 12 4 49 Fabio DI GIANNANTONIO ITA Gresini Racing MotoGP DUCATI 39'46.996 160.0 17.911 13 3 37 Augusto FERNANDEZ SPA GASGAS Factory Racing Tech3 KTM 39'48.095 160.0 19.010 14 2 6 Stefan BRADL GER HRC Team HONDA 39'56.379 159.4 27.294 15 1 25 Raul FERNANDEZ SPA CryptoDATA RNF MotoGP Team APRILIA 40'05.456 158.8 36.371 16 27 Iker LECUONA SPA Repsol Honda Team HONDA 40'05.838 158.8 36.753 17 94 Jonas FOLGER GER GASGAS Factory Racing Tech3 KTM 40'16.231 158.1 47.146 Not classified 12 Maverick VIÑALES SPA Aprilia Racing APRILIA 37'59.422 160.6 1 lap 5 Johann ZARCO FRA Prima Pramac Racing DUCATI 26'24.180 160.8 8 laps 72 Marco BEZZECCHI ITA Mooney VR46 Racing Team DUCATI 26'29.418 160.2 8 laps 42 Alex RINS SPA LCR Honda CASTROL HONDA 3'57.849 133.8 22 laps 36 Joan MIR SPA Repsol Honda Team HONDA 1'48.333 146.9 23 laps Not finished first lap 88 Miguel OLIVEIRA POR CryptoDATA RNF MotoGP Team APRILIA Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: koko64 on April 30, 2023, 10:27:19 AM Talk about twists and turns in the championship! Pecco back on top by a good margin. Great to see KTM right in the game.
Those sprint races have created a new normal in aggressive riding. The riders have adjusted their competitive intensity accordingly with more crashes, more injuries, more penalties. Combine it with difficulty overtaking, tyre issues, etc, not only are the riders and teams stretched, but also the stewards! Jack was lucky not to get pinged like Pecco. Tardozzi went right off about the stewards! [laugh] He made a comment about Playstation racing vs men's racing ;D A meeting of all riders with the stewards has been scheduled. Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: ducpainter on April 30, 2023, 10:54:12 AM I think the stewards will take all the excitement out of the racing unless some 'standards' are set.
The old saying 'rubbing in racing' will mean you get to lose a place or a long lap penalty. I think there should be no penalty unless someone crashes. There's a huge difference between a touch, and taking someone out. Take a guy out...you're DQ'ed. Plain, and simple. JMO, and worth what you paid for it. ;D Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: koko64 on April 30, 2023, 11:12:04 AM ;D
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1025274/1/raging-ducati-boss-demands-stewards-revise-decision-hard-sport Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: koko64 on April 30, 2023, 11:24:05 AM I think the stewards will take all the excitement out of the racing unless some 'standards' are set. The old saying 'rubbing in racing' will mean you get to lose a place or a long lap penalty. I think there should be no penalty unless someone crashes. There's a huge difference between a touch, and taking someone out. Take a guy out...you're DQ'ed. Plain, and simple. JMO, and worth what you paid for it. ;D Yeah, no harm no foul. People complained about me at club level ;D The bosses caused this trying to squeeze extra $$$ out of "the show" with the sprints and the riders are penalised when they rise to the challenge. Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: ducpainter on April 30, 2023, 12:50:06 PM Yeah, no harm no foul. Exactly, however...all these guys know what will work, and what won't. If they're over exuberant...they know it. My opinion only...Fabio is a lying sack of shit. He was trying to pass.People complained about me at club level ;D The bosses caused this trying to squeeze extra $$$ out of "the show" with the sprints and the riders are penalised when they rise to the challenge. Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: kopfjäger on April 30, 2023, 04:33:26 PM Holy Schnikes! This season is off to a bang. Those 3 are putting on one hell of a show. Fabio is in big trouble, and I make the beast with two backsn love it. Dive bomed that turn for sure, then couldn’t even do the long lap penalty correctly. Pedrosa!
Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: kopfjäger on April 30, 2023, 05:07:17 PM https://youtu.be/8xg9HfYP9hk
Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: kopfjäger on April 30, 2023, 08:10:09 PM Binder hit the steering lock stop on that pass. Said he'd be happy to never have to do that again. https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1025112/1/binder-bagnaia-miller-chat-revealed-us-two-idiots Here’s the video of that exchange if you haven’t seen it. https://youtu.be/6XgAaIhspDw Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: koko64 on April 30, 2023, 08:59:29 PM Good natured banter and respect. KTM boys are a couple of hooligans [laugh]
Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: koko64 on April 30, 2023, 09:03:50 PM Exactly, however...all these guys know what will work, and what won't. If they're over exuberant...they know it. My opinion only...Fabio is a lying sack of shit. He was trying to pass. Between us, I've never been a Fabio fan. Really taking a liking to Binder. Pecco appears to be a gentleman. Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: ducpainter on May 01, 2023, 02:33:57 AM ;D Freddie doesn't care what he thinks, either. :Phttps://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1025274/1/raging-ducati-boss-demands-stewards-revise-decision-hard-sport Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: kopfjäger on May 01, 2023, 08:35:21 AM Good natured banter and respect. KTM boys are a couple of hooligans [laugh] [thumbsup] Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: koko64 on May 01, 2023, 09:01:04 AM And it just gets better. First Marc then Fabio.
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1025352/1/miguel-oliveira-s-shoulder-damage-bigger-expected Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: koko64 on May 01, 2023, 03:29:33 PM Jack mentioned how impressed he was with Dani's ride and development work. He said however, that he has a different set up on the bike to Pedrosa as he's 30kg heavier ;D
Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: koko64 on May 03, 2023, 02:05:59 AM https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/hallelujah-sideways-motogp-is-back/?fbclid=IwAR1q503a68vqST1_w24OL7YnTc_7EBmHRy27BepZIfwyQ8YjjpTbFIBmajM
Title: Re: Spanish MotoGP Jerez (spoilt) Post by: kopfjäger on May 03, 2023, 05:54:40 PM [clap] [clap] Those three are the show at this point. Going for broke every lap, and what makes it even better is they’re having fun. For now anyway.
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