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Title: Confirm my battery diagnosis?
Post by: stopintime on August 05, 2025, 05:00:09 AM
Trouble starting - starter motor tries to turn the engine over, but can't quite manage to do do. I cleaned connections to and from solenoid and to starter -  didn't affect things.

Screws at battery connections a tiny bit lose - tightened maybe a small quarter turn.

Battery voltage before trying 12.4/12.6. Voltage while trying 10.something to maybe 11

Jumping with a car battery it fires right up.

Then: Idle 13, rising to 13.8/14 at just under 4.000 revs

Now on a charger.


Battery = toast?

Title: Re: Confirm my battery diagnosis?
Post by: Howie on August 05, 2025, 06:20:42 AM
I can't tell from your info.  The way to know for sure is fully charge and load test or one of these type testers  https://auteldiagnostictools.com/products/bt506?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Autel%20Diagnostic%20Tools&utm_term=2323130631271801&utm_content=Ad%20group%20%231

If I was a betting man I would go with your diagnosis though.  Oh, Is your battery lead acid or lithium whatever?
Title: Re: Confirm my battery diagnosis?
Post by: stopintime on August 05, 2025, 08:25:34 AM
Lead acid. No lithium in my bike, yet.
Title: Re: Confirm my battery diagnosis?
Post by: koko64 on August 07, 2025, 11:40:16 PM
Choose a new battery?
Title: Re: Confirm my battery diagnosis?
Post by: stopintime on August 08, 2025, 12:02:02 AM
I'll probably get a new, but want to test more first. It's 'fine' now that I do daily charges (to make sure my long weekend ride goes well), but want to know how it develops in daily use.
The shop I bought it from says all the numbers indicate 'fine' (ok...), but they will load test it.
Title: Re: Confirm my battery diagnosis?
Post by: Howie on August 08, 2025, 05:05:30 AM
I try to replace batteries before they fail.  More than four years, new battery.
Title: Re: Confirm my battery diagnosis?
Post by: stopintime on August 08, 2025, 02:59:14 PM
This is 16 months. It's a cheap'ish battery, but should last longer regardless. It has been treated well an used in a bike showing signs of good condition/charging. Maybe they'll give me a return/money towards a Yuasa.
Title: Re: Confirm my battery diagnosis?
Post by: Howie on August 08, 2025, 07:50:56 PM
A big advantage with the Yuasa YT12B-BS is they ship them dry, with the acid separate.  Battery life starts the day you activate it, not when manufactured.  I don't know about you side of the pond, but here, often cheap batteries are cheap because they sat on the shelf too long.
Title: Re: Confirm my battery diagnosis?
Post by: koko64 on August 08, 2025, 10:49:22 PM
Quote from: Howie on August 08, 2025, 07:50:56 PMA big advantage with the Yuasa YT12B-BS is they ship them dry, with the acid separate.  Battery life starts the day you activate it, not when manufactured.  I don't know about you side of the pond, but here, often cheap batteries are cheap because they sat on the shelf too long.

Very true. You never know how "fresh" some batteries are. I've never seen batteries kept on charge while on the store's shelf. Some shops may charge them for you once purchased, but even that is rare.
Title: Re: Confirm my battery diagnosis?
Post by: stopintime on August 09, 2025, 09:10:40 AM
Filled only in Europe now. I don't know why.
Cheap batteries, typically warehouse will have shorter shelf life, larger volume, quicker turn around. Yes?
Title: Re: Confirm my battery diagnosis?
Post by: Howie on August 09, 2025, 11:59:03 AM
Maybe, there is only a handful of lead accidents battery manufacturers. 
Title: Re: Confirm my battery diagnosis?
Post by: stopintime on August 09, 2025, 02:46:27 PM
Quote from: Howie on August 09, 2025, 11:59:03 AMMaybe, there is only a handful of lead accidents battery manufacturers. 
,but many spell check apps.
Title: Re: Confirm my battery diagnosis?
Post by: Howie on August 09, 2025, 04:00:35 PM
Quote from: stopintime on August 09, 2025, 02:46:27 PM,but many spell check apps.

What the?
Quote from: Howie on August 09, 2025, 11:59:03 AMMaybe, there is only a handful of lead accidents battery manufacturers. 


I have no idea how I did that :-\
Title: Re: Confirm my battery diagnosis?
Post by: koko64 on August 12, 2025, 03:52:36 PM
Tired but technically OK batteries may get through summer and test ok in the higher temps, only to not make it through winter. Many times I've told a customer to change the battery in Autumn/Fall.
Title: Re: Confirm my battery diagnosis?
Post by: koko64 on August 12, 2025, 03:54:03 PM
Quote from: Howie on August 08, 2025, 05:05:30 AMI try to replace batteries before they fail.  More than four years, new battery.
Quote from: koko64 on August 12, 2025, 03:52:36 PMTired but technically OK batteries may get through summer and test ok in the higher temps, only to not make it through winter. Many times I've told a customer to change the battery in Autumn/Fall.
Title: Re: Confirm my battery diagnosis?
Post by: koko64 on August 12, 2025, 03:59:08 PM
I do like a Shorai lithium battery for a bike with no alarm or live gadgetry (parasitic draw). I've seen them sit for a year then start a high comp 900/944.
Title: Re: Confirm my battery diagnosis?
Post by: stopintime on September 03, 2025, 03:18:43 PM
Load tested today = 60% "life" left. Oh well  :-\  I'll treat it nicely through autumn and winter + be ready to buy a Yuasa at a good autumn sale.