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Till now there was only that tail chop from ducati accessories catalogue but now I found this one

http://www.barracudamoto.it/DettaglioProdotto.aspx?IDP=1108&CAT=62

It looks ok and has white LED light for less price than ducati one

The problem is with turn light which are lower in comparison to stock/ducati tail chop.
Another issue is that LED light which may be uglier than stock but maybe I will not be able to change it (it looks smaller)

What would you do? This one or one from catalogue?

P.S. how is tham moto wheel project going (interested in tal chop - imagine)  ;D

Linky no worky

http://www.barracudamoto.it/DettaglioProdotto.aspx?IDP=1108&CAT=62

what, you dont read italian....?
:P

or english?

http://www.barracudamoto.it/DettaglioProdotto.aspx?IDP=1108&CAT=62

I dont know why it put that dots in the middle  ???

http://www.barracudamoto.it/DettaglioProdotto.aspx?IDP=1108&CAT=62

Dont really know what you guys are talking about  ???
There are no infos on what i am wondering, or is it?

http://www.barracudamoto.it/elenco.aspx?CAT=62

I like their mirrors and tail kit, but i dont like that you can't use the stock signal lights. so i'm gonna get the DP version. but the mirros i will check out. i'm going to italy for a visit maybe this fall and will go the factory if i can.

I'm actually kinda digging this:

http://www.barracudamoto.it/DettaglioProdotto.aspx?IDP=1114&CAT=62 (http://www.barracudamoto.it/DettaglioProdotto.aspx?IDP=1114&CAT=62)

where does it say that you can't use stock lights?  other than the tail light (which is integrated and clear which i think is cool) but it seems to me that the turn signals are bolt on. and no reason they couldn't be the stock.

I agree, the only thing weird about it is the size of your plate, the italian one looks almost square. I do like the belly pan idea though, different. makes the bike look unique. hmmm

i am going with the competition werks tail chop.

Me too (ordered last week)  [thumbsup]

good choice, it doesnt dissapoint.  i put mine on 2 weeks ago and i love it!

Competition Werkes one is perfect.  Once they come out with an brake light with integrated turn signals for the 696( December I think I read), you can still use the CW tail chop and move the license plate further under your seat. 

I would be curious how hard it would be to order from Barracuda?  I kinda dig the windscreen and belly pan.

ok put it on, but it isn't the best as far as fitting the bike (i mean i'm being realllll picky though) and the instruction in my mind are backwards.
the sides don't like up with the bike sides, i'm afraid the sharp edges might cut the seat riding 2 up. i'll take a closer look in the morning.
also, as i put it together and starting assemblying, trying to figure out where to run wires, i realized it would be easier to put it 75% together off the bike with wires on and then slide the whole unit in place. working the 3 pieces separately onto the bike and figuring the wiring sucked.

maybe CW will rework the part, fabricate it a different way so it's only 2 parts. like the light mount with the undertail a single piece and the tag holder separate. just would be easier. also i wish they would have rolled the top edges of the light mount to avoid the top sharp edge and corners.

so, if you are getting this, i suggest getting the wires run through the three pieces, don't stick on the tag light (just leave it hanging til done), have a friend hold it up to the bike, run the wires onto the bike, screw the bolt closer to the front then work your way back.

after i check it for clearance on the seat, i may have the edges worked  or put some rubber on the edges to protect the seat, of course after getting it powder coated black.

honestly. i don't think you and i got the same kit. my cw kit came with great instructions. and if followed word by word the installation should go smoothly. i have no sharp edges, no blown fuses, and the wire harness fits perfectly. my only gripe is that i received my kit with no license mount. i contacted monsterparts and they are shipping it to me rite now. (what great people.)

http://gallery.me.com/theo.keetell#100150
So I added the Ducati tail chop. It's night and day as far as quality is concerned (plastic feels super cheap), but it does the job. Although the CW kit looks extra tight on the bike, which is nice.

I have been making some small mods lately as well. I just added the Termi kit w/ECU and filter. I was trying to avoid going to the dealer, but it looks like I have to anyway. After adding the kit, Ducati sent me a EU ECU and everything is now metric and my speed is now in km/h. Anyone have this happen to them before? Maybe I just need to call Ducati and see if there is a US ECU instead? Anyone have any thoughts here??

Regardless, the bike runs completely different now. It's sooo much smoother and if anyone is debating on whether or not to go with the Termi cans, I say it's worth it. After about 1500 miles on the bike without the new cans and ECU, I feel like I am on a new ride.

Changing the mirrors and pulling off the tank badges also made a big difference to the bike. I added some black chrome decals instead, but still not sure if I dig them. I might either pull them off all together, or get another set in regular material. Thoughts?

from what i know you can change the setting on the computer yourself.

it's in the owner's manual how to set the country.

also how come  you kept the baffles in?

you gotta paint the exhaust hangers black.

I must be looking in the wrong place, but I can't seem to find where it instructs on how to change the country.

I just put the cans on today, but yeah, I need to black out the hangers. I left the baffles in for now. Sounds decent, but I do a ton of highway riding to and from work and from what I gather, it's super loud. Plus I think my neighbors at my current house already hate my 7AM warm-ups.

At an idle, is it super loud? If not then I might pull them out tomorrow.

nevermind. After more google searching, I found a post from another owner and they explained how to go into 'pro mode' and set the country. I'm in business!  ;D

you should do a mileage check with baffles/wo baffles. i'd be interested to see if there's a difference. from what i read there's a diff with the kit vs no kit. but wonder if the additional backpressure from the baffles would help.

that's a good idea. I'll ride the bike as is this week and then make the switch next weekend. With the stock cans and ECU, I was getting about 50 mpg. I'm curious to see what I get now.

well i swtiched my headlights at the same time so those may be my fuse situation... i know better than this  [bang] always swtich one thing, test, then switch another. i got impatient.

sending it back. i don't like the Competition Werks tail after further looking at it and how it fits. plus i have to pay extra to powdercoat it. all in all not happy.

NOW, i found a replacement today.

Wasn.t gonna tell you all til i got it in and checked it out, but i like the look. it's cleaner and looks like it fits better, even has the key on the side not underneath. AND it's already black. it has the euro plate mount, but i may need that soon enough anyway. but it's not as big as the DP euro mount or even the barracuda.

http://www.rg-racing.com/browseBike/Ducati/Monster_696/2008/LP0072BK.aspx

dollar pound rate sucks though.

i will give a full report when i get it.

just installed mine today. crappy cell phone pics but you get the point. i orderd the kit from monsterparts and it was missing a peice. so the sales dude at monster parts got me another one right away. i love it. its clean, looks great, and adds sexy points to the bike. took about 30 mins to install. better pics of the am turn signals soon.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b275/gtoh_667/bikeyes012.jpg)

just a heads up, i had an unfortunate run-in with these guys....
got the identical tail tidy for my 2006 triumph speed triple from them,
had some minor issues with it, no biggie,
they NEVER returned a single email or addressed ANY of my issues...
EVER.
customer service = ZERO
forewarned is forearmed...;)
anybody need a euro tail tidy for a 2005-2007 speed triple...? ;D

thanks for the heads up
i'll post if they've improved. cause it's a nice looking kit

I like the direction you are going with your bike, looks great.  I'm on the fence about your chrome decals.  Look OK in the pics but I suspect they look better in person?  Where did you get them?

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 It took me about 3 hrs to install the competition werks tail chop kit as the instructions left alot to be desired. It required me to play around guessing about such things as cable routing for the seat latch but now that it is done I,m happy.

dont feel bad...it took me something like 2 hours.  i ran into the same issues about teh cable system.  im pretty mechanically inclined as well.  [bang]

the instructions started out great...really detailed, and then it was like finished in 3 steps LOL.

 I couldn't believe they didn't even show a picture of what the cable routing was. I'm sure they showed the seat latch on the opposite side of where it should have been too. I wish the two longer allen bolts use to hold down the latch, tail light and blinker assembly were a bit longer too as they barely grab the nylock portion of the nut when it's all done.

Yeah, I too am still on the fence. They aren't the right color and have a sort of purple hue to them. Plus the shiny decal on the matte isn't doing it for me. So I might get some stock stickers or leave them off altogether. But if you want to get custom decals, you can go to http://fastdecals.com/ (http://fastdecals.com/).

has anyone installed the ducati performance led signals with their competition werks fender eliminator kit?

is so how did you get them to fit?

here's my take on the RG Racing Tidy Tail.
Basic:
-ordered directly from RG Racing
-took a week from UK for shipping.
-RG Racing photo gallery http://www.rg-racing.com/RGProducts/ProductGallery.aspx?sku=lp0072bk&page=1 (http://www.rg-racing.com/RGProducts/ProductGallery.aspx?sku=lp0072bk&page=1)

Pluses:
-the kit is thick high quality tough as nails metal
-Painted black already.
-keyhole is in the correct location on the side.
-plate light is screwed on in the correct location and looks real nice.
-two pieces only that line up real nice with the bikes lines
-looks like it will fit euro and stateside plates
-fits nicely underseat edges with no sharp edges.
-place to put the wiring in the pieces
-cheaper than the DP shorttail
-even included shrink tube for the plate light wires

Minuses:
-my bottom piece is folded a bit too narrow so i have to press out the sides abit. when i mean a bit i mean 1/16 of an inch or less, but because the metal is so strong it's not easy
-the bottom back tab where it is to be screwed together with the top piece again is folded a bit off could use the screws (but when a plus since i ran the plate light through one of the holes)
-it's @ $50 more than the CW tail
-no blade connectors so had to cut stock plate wires, but not a major thing since they provided roud connectors (which are more secure than the stock)

Raux, thanks for the info... any pics of your bike?

uh wife has digital cam in germany. i'll try to find another to borrow.

i've done some changes and just finished the tail tidy today, so didnt want to take pics til now anyway.

but here's some of the things i've done.

i have a white 696 so imagine these while i find a camera

-painted the front headlight bracket black
-painted the front exhaust shield black
-painted the exhaust hanger main part black
-put on the RG Racing tail tidy
-removed the charcoal canister
-put the euro shroud on
-painted 'brembo' on the brakes red
-put on white reflective rim stripes
-removed fork reflectors
-removed frame stickers (hope i dont need those on for inspection in germany, but kept them in a sealed bag with the bike)
-replaced stock headlight bulbs with sylvania bulbs that are 4000k white, still waiting on a 3300k (whitest i could find) center bulb to come in

at this point it's all cosmetic and cheap. maybe for christmas my wife will get my pipes. (just in case she's reading [roll])

Raux, that sounds terrific. Can't wait for the eye candy.
Waiting for my year end bonuses to mod up. Thanks again!

Nice write up, thanks.  [bacon]

One question, how visible is the plate at night.  I have the CW one and the angle of the plate is pretty steep so at night the plate light does not cover much and you cant see a thing past 20 feet or so.  I suspect I'll get a ticket  at some point for it so I'm considering changing.  Dont need another reason for the  [leo] to pull me over...
 [beer]

the plate actually looks stock angle almost and the metal can be adjusted slightly if need be, also the light is 3 leds that are bright and light the plate properly. i think since the kit is from a british firm and they are stickler for rules there shouldn't be any probs.

im looking into ordering some LED LP lights to hold my plate on to supplement the dim lighting from the CW tail chop kit.  when i get it done i will make a thread. :)

Put the CW kit on this weekend, digging it and also considering LED signals.  What about the front, though?

I had the dealer put the factory tailight cleanup kit on mine when I bought it and it looks sick!

what do you all think? Should I take the Termi stickers off the cans? I kind of like them, but wondering if it's a cleaner look. I'm afraid it could be too plain.

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eh my opinion is the bike is a Ducati not a Termi. those Termi stickers overpower the bike on everybike they are on

Love that header wrap mate!

I have the Termignoni, it looks brilliant, but I was disappointed the the quality.  It looks great now, but I had do a bit of modifying to get it to fit and to get my plate on it. Key hole was too small and not notched, the license plate light holes didn't align with the light, so I had to elongate them to get it on and then none of the holes lined up with the plate holes... so I had to elongate my plate holes to get it on. Afterwards I had these tails hanging down, so I cut them off too. It looks good now, and in person you wouldn't be able to tell I did any modify to make it work.

One big plus about the termignoni plate thingy, is the rear blinkers are braced/reinforced with metal... making them a lot stronger and a lot less likely to break if you accidentally kick them.

(http://www.jackham.net/rmcb5/duct02.jpg)

(http://www.jackham.net/rmcb5/duct03.jpg)

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The RG Racing Tidy Tail (brits have a way of naming things don't they)

How's that with a plate on it?  You going to have a little corner sticking out the bottom?

thanks. I did it for looks and also for the heat. I wasn't sure if it was going to cut down temp, but it really did. And the header is sooo yellowish/bronze that I think it looks really weird smack in the middle of the silver and black. As a winter project, I might pull the whole exhaust off and wrap. And I'll most likely pull the heat guards off the cans too. I'll need to cut/grind off the mounts for a smooth look. Someone else did that on this forum and it looks super clean.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o257/Ultra54/IM002188.jpg)
 I got rid of the evap can and the bikini faring to clean it up more.

sorry, long story, but no plates to show on it. BUT the old temp plates fit on it and were 1/2 inch longer. so no black piece hanging down.

That looks really nice. Super clean.

 You have to be very careful when you remove the brackets that are tacked onto the pipe as it is very thin and there is little room for error. On the first side I did I almost went to far meaning you can almost see through the pipe where I ground the tack smooth. The header tape totally protects who ever dares ride on the back. I use my VFR for all double riding duties and hope to locate a set of rearsets to rid the bike of the passenger pegs. I've since wrapped the header section with the black tape too.

on the MotoWheels project 696 I think they've put a set of rearsets on there. Might what to check it out.

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=5887.msg93747#msg93747 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=5887.msg93747#msg93747)

I just finished putting mine on also, and like you, I'm wondering what the two ears hanging down below the number plate are for . The picture shows another plate that is supposed to bolt to it with a reflector, but it isn't there. I will probably cut them off too. And also, did you ever get the turn signals to mount up correctly? Mine are now crooked and there doesn't seem to be any way to make them sit straight.

i think the DP short tail is made for the European plate size which is about double the height of theUS plate.

Like stated above, the plate bracket is not made for US plates, but I don't think the stock plate bracket (has reflectors on it) fits either.  If you just elongate your holes on your plate (out) a little then the plate will match up.  I used a washer behind the plate (so it will sit against the aluminum) and then a bigger washer on the front side.  I used a dremel, but I am good with a dremel, if you are worried about taking too much off then use a file.  Figured out where the plate will sit and then marked off the bracket and cut off the excess, rounded the corners and used a sharpie to hide the aluminum where I cut it.  Sharpies on aluminum come out semi-flat which matches alright, esp since it is not seen and I did not want to buy paint.

My turn signals look fine.  They sit at a slightly different angle (slightly more down), but they are even.  Make sure you got them on the correct side.  Along the top/bottom there is a notch in the black plastic (where it meets the clear) in the middle, that should point down.  Also makes sure your blinkers are seated into the plastic evenly and correctly. 

Can you post pictures of how yours looks?  lets see what is going on

This is what the taillight gap looks like, I have taken it apart two more times to try and make them fit better. Its not a big deal, I just wish they would sit flush. And notice I still have the plate zip tied on, gotta get the dremel out.
(http://www.billreynoldsracing.com/pics/taillight1.JPG)
(http://www.billreynoldsracing.com/pics/taillight2.JPG)

It does look like your right side is slightly more forward, but not enough to worry about.  I'm sure stock isn't always even.  Mine do have a slight gap in them, but a little smaller than yours.  I reduced mine when I installed it by fiddling with the metal braces and got it pretty good.   The termi plastic is thinner than the stock at the blinker mount and seems a lot more flexible.   Honestly, IMO, it looks like it is only a 1mm or so and would say it is good enough.  If you look over your bike closely you will find a lot of things that aren't even and/or don't fit up right... like how the seat fits up against the gas tank cover.  Nobody will ever notice.

Termi looks good on the bike, but I was very disappointed with the fit/finish of their product


Hey do you have a whole picture of your bike?  I'm thinking of getting termi carbon system for mine.  And I'm not meaning to thread steal.

Here is a pic with the Termi's, GET THEM, they are awesome.
(http://www.billreynoldsracing.com/pics/bikewithtermis.JPG)

Here is the latest on my bike. We've got a BEAUTIFUL fall day here in Boston, so I thought it would be a good day to take some pics.

-Full CF Termi's, stickers removed
-CRG Bar Ends
-Header wrap
-removed fork reflectors
-removed frame stickers
-80's logo tank badges (thanks to Erik @ Twisted Vinyl Graphics)
-blacked out headlight bezel
-shortened front signals
-painted black exhaust hangers
-DP tail chop
-CF heat shield on header
-CF heat shields on cans

Thanks to everyone on this forum for all the suggestions and keeping me in the know of who to reach out to, and how to do it. I think I am done tinkering for a while. But the next upgrades will most likely come in the form of levers and a new seat (those should have come first, but what the hell). I have spent up to 2.5 hours in a single clip and my cheeks aren't happy about that. I will most likely put reflective black wheel tape on soon. And maybe I'll actually get around to giving her a good bath  ;) since I have gone about 1800 miles on her without even a good wipe down.

(http://gallery.me.com/theo.keetell/100150/IMG_1744/web.jpg)

 Very nice indeed, but I'm biased as mine is much the same. It was also a beautiful fall day in Northern Ontario, hitting a sunny 70 degrees and more for the next 3 days too. Since I don't care to double ride with it I'm looking to rid the bike of the large peg bracket and go with rear sets. I have owned many bikes and none have attracted so much attention as my dark 696. I get lots of comments on the flashing red  l e d lights on the dash and the sound of it, often described as bad ass. I have 4100 km on it so far. I'm sure going to hate putting it away for the winter.

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