Title: oil Post by: RavnMonster on August 04, 2008, 04:31:36 AM I know Ducati recommends Shell oil for our motors, but does anyone use Mobile 1? or other synthetic oil? I use Mobile 1 in everyone of my cars and swear by it. But I wanted to hear the opinions of you all first.
thanks Title: Re: oil Post by: Slide Panda on August 04, 2008, 05:39:17 AM Oh this can of worms. Yes you can use other high quality syn oils. There's a long, and very informative oil thread on TOB, ruled by a lubrication engineer. To sum it up for you, Mobil 1 MX4T is the good stuff. But there's a number of syns on the market that are almost as good.
Title: Re: oil Post by: RavnMonster on August 04, 2008, 05:59:59 AM LOL.. i kinda had a feeling this had been hashed out before somewhere else. sorry for bringing up an old subject. Thanks for the short and to the point answer. thats what I thought. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: oil Post by: NvrSummer on August 04, 2008, 07:57:53 AM Mobil 1 MX4T is good stuff, and a little cheaper than the boutique oils you find at the shop.
Now, duck and run before this thread gets really out of hand! Title: Re: oil Post by: Capo on August 04, 2008, 12:54:17 PM Amsoil nothing but Amsoil
Title: Re: oil Post by: teddy037.2 on August 04, 2008, 01:23:08 PM the dealer filled mine w/castrol R4 superbike (IIRC) oil... don't remember the weight off-hand...
Title: Re: oil Post by: He Man on August 04, 2008, 03:07:15 PM Bottom Line facts...
1) Anything motospecific will work. 2) Dry clutch can use anything. 3) Oil is better than no oil 4) If no oil use Olive oil. 5) Synthetic > non synthetic 6) EEV> pure 7) chaning your oil is better than not chaning your oil 8) more expensive oil usually equals better. 9) Dino oil sucks. but see rule 3 Im dumping fully synththic Mobil 1 (for cars) in my next oil change. $20 bucks. cant beat the price when compared to $60 full synthetic moto oils Title: Re: oil Post by: WestonWith2 on August 04, 2008, 03:13:22 PM Do you have to use synthetic?
Title: Re: oil Post by: He Man on August 04, 2008, 03:15:36 PM See rule 3.
Title: Re: oil Post by: bfoster on August 04, 2008, 06:09:50 PM Bottom Line facts... 1) Anything motospecific will work. 2) Dry clutch can use anything. 3) Oil is better than no oil 4) If no oil use Olive oil. Im dumping fully synththic Mobil 1 (for cars) in my next oil change. $20 bucks. cant beat the price when compared to $60 full synthetic moto oils Do you need to use Extra Virgin Olive Oil or will the cheaper variations work just as well? [moto] Title: Re: oil Post by: He Man on August 04, 2008, 06:42:23 PM See rule 6
Title: Re: oil Post by: 55Spy on August 04, 2008, 11:38:20 PM Oh can I fan the fire?
My bike has only had about 400 miles put on it this year because I have been overseas... (had my pops put about 40 miles on it every month to kepp the belts, tires, and metallic bits moving) I changed the oil right at a year ago (moto specific synth) when I left should I follow the "1 year no matter how many miles" oil change rule???? (he man this is outside of the scope of rule 3) actually I am going to change it anyways Title: Re: oil Post by: Slide Panda on August 05, 2008, 05:05:19 AM I changed the oil right at a year ago (moto specific synth) when I left should I follow the "1 year no matter how many miles" oil change rule???? Well, unless you botch the job some how, new oil never hurt Title: Re: oil Post by: RavnMonster on August 05, 2008, 06:58:24 AM I dont think you can change the oil TOO much, cant hurt
Title: Re: oil Post by: DarkStaR on August 05, 2008, 07:01:52 AM I dont think you can change the oil TOO much, cant hurt It'll hurt your wallet. Title: Re: oil Post by: Slide Panda on August 05, 2008, 08:24:32 AM It'll hurt your wallet. Always gotta be one in the crowd ;D Title: Re: oil Post by: 10/10ths on August 05, 2008, 08:37:58 AM Oil is cheap, engines are expensive.
You bought a freakin' Ducati....don't pregnant dog about expensive oil changes for cryin' out loud. Try a Kymco scooter, I hear that oil changes are free if you buy one. Mobil 1 is fine, Amsoil is great, so is Motul 300v and Bel-Ray 10-50, all fully synthetic. Check out "Desmo Times". Cheers. Title: Re: oil Post by: 55Spy on August 05, 2008, 03:33:12 PM I was just fanning the oil flames.....
I already had the oil and filter sitting in the garage. gonna change it tomorrow and then go up to Solvang to the Motorcycle Museum there. Title: Re: oil Post by: Porsche Monkey on August 05, 2008, 06:00:28 PM I use Mobil 1 in all my vehicles. The bike has a dry clutch so I've been using mobile 1 in it too.
Title: Re: oil Post by: He Man on August 05, 2008, 06:33:09 PM Oil is cheap, engines are expensive. You bought a freakin' Ducati....don't pregnant dog about expensive oil changes for cryin' out loud. Try a Kymco scooter, I hear that oil changes are free if you buy one. Mobil 1 is fine, Amsoil is great, so is Motul 300v and Bel-Ray 10-50, all fully synthetic. Check out "Desmo Times". Cheers. Depends on your view i guess. If your going to be riding your bike as a daily commuter, and your civil. I dont see why you cant run cheap stuff. just cycle it more often. Though in the long haul, Fully synthetic oil simply lasts longer than multiple cheap oil changes, so thats the best economical way to go. And Im almost sure you dont need to change your oil every 3,000 miles. That may have been true with dino oil. (which is what im basically running right now) but with synthetic, i dont see why you cant go 6,000 miles on the dry clutches, you have no contamination from the tranny. What about those high mileage oils that last for 10,000 miles +? Can you argue that "cars dont rev as high" well look at the facts, my red line is 8k RPM. i reach it often, but i only hang there for less than a second. my avg rpm is 4,500. Which is about what a car is doing when its being driven by the avg heavy footed driver. especially in a 4 cyl car, or a big v8., the 4cyl can reach 7,000 rpms and most v8s probably max out at that. So theres something to think about. Title: Re: oil Post by: Capo on August 06, 2008, 01:52:15 AM Oil is cheap, engines are expensive. You bought a freakin' Ducati....don't pregnant dog about expensive oil changes for cryin' out loud. Try a Kymco scooter, I hear that oil changes are free if you buy one. Mobil 1 is fine, Amsoil is great, so is Motul 300v and Bel-Ray 10-50, all fully synthetic. Check out "Desmo Times". Cheers. +1 [thumbsup] Title: Re: oil Post by: erik822 on August 06, 2008, 10:04:22 AM The difference between car oil and motorcycle oils is diminishing. One of the big differences used to be the additives allowed in motorcycle oil. However, now that motorcycles also have catalytic converters and tightening emissions standards, car and motorcycle oils will become more and more similar.
Synthetic is better than dino. In a dry clutch bike it doesn't make any difference whether it's car or motorcycle oil. In a bike with a wet clutch I have searched high and low for people with actual clutch problems and there are a few references to a "friend" with a honda that had some clutch slippage. So I, for one, very much doubt you'll ever run into a problem. |