Ducati Monster Forum

Over at TOB there was an extensive discussion on alternatives to Termi's etc.

One of the options was a short pipe called something like "Heldman."

I'm leaning towards putting these on in place of my Termi slip ons.
Was curious if any of you remember that exhaust or the link to that site.
thanks

I don't remember the Heldman's, but I'm still looking at the GPR hi mounts.  I think they were at On-cycles.

You mean headman?  I got a pair of headman headers (they cheap) and tried to custom fab something up......well the first attempt ever resulted in less than quality results.....fortunately i started on the cheap parts before working up to anything i could really screw up.  Will try again though.....i might even post pics if i come up with something i'm not ashamed of

yeah, I think that was it - Hedman
thanks

http://www.jegs.com/p/Hedman/969187/10002/-1/10255 (http://www.jegs.com/p/Hedman/969187/10002/-1/10255)

Here you go guys ;D

9 inches long and 2.5 in. dia.

I'm guessing those things would be a little on the loud side. :leo:

LA

 Not so much if you add baffles to the mix. Here is a video of mine:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3hJvrl1O8k

 They actually sound alot like the the QuatD Exbox but without the tinny sound.

 If you want I can do another video with a close up and better sound.

Please do wt:
This is interesting! I have seen your video before, but now I'm thinking of a S2R1000 and would like to open up the rear wheel view.
Bladder still on? Open air box? New ECU? PC3, remapping? Adjusting air/fuel?

 I'll try and get another video in the next day or two.

 If your looking to get an S2R1K just buy mine.  wt:

 Heres a link to the ad: http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/index.php?topic=1373.0

If that price was at my door, taxes and all paid, I would take two of those, please.
Retail price here is $31,000 pu::

these look like the Hedman's to me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPuAwW3sf84

Yeah, thats my bike when I was still in the development stage. They weren't really even mounted properly at that point. If you look really close you can see the top one moving around.  ;:|

I have since mounted them properly and painted them black.

sweet.
and . . . "Bladder still on? Open air box? New ECU? PC3, remapping? Adjusting air/fuel?"

 No bladder.

QuatD header, stock airbox (although I have a semi-open one I'm not using at the moment), stock ECU, and "manually" (top secret  8)) adjusted air fuel.  ;)

 I did something similar with a marving eliminator and two hooker tips welded together and a couple of swedges.  I'll post some pics when I take some, maybe a vid its ridiculousy loud basically just straight pipes  [evil]

The Monstermash exhaust sounds and looks pretty good to me and sure must be cheap except for the header.

I would have thought it would be much louder with the udder gone.

I like em.

LA

 Thanks man.

 It was super loud the first time I mocked it up. I wasn't using the baffles and that made all the difference.

 You can also do the mod if you still have the udder but you should still use the baffles to make it sound nice. Otherwise it sounds like a Harley.  [roll]

well here is mine very similar but a little different the tip outlet is 3" and 1 7/8" inlet here is the before(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll127/mackdaddy16/roughcopy.jpg)
and after (http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll127/mackdaddy16/Picture_002.jpg) I took the two tips and welded them together then welded these swedges to the tips (http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll127/mackdaddy16/swedges.jpg) so I could use the original exhaust clamps.

That looks amazing. You need to post up a video so we can hear how it sounds. Would you be willing to make me one? (for a nominal fee of course ;) )

I would but you really need to have them fitted on the bike before you make the welds.  I had to beat it on with a board and mallet because the tips inlets are spaced wider then the marving you  can see that the adapters kinda angle in so I hade everything in place then tacked it together and welded after.

I can do the one's I made without having the bike here. They are two seperate pieces so I won't run into the same issues that Macker did.

Shoot me a pm if you're interested.

can you just post up the baffles that you used and the adapters? 

 I pretty much used the same adapters. Here are the baffles:

(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff176/MonstermashS2R/Baffles.jpg)

 And I used the Hedamn tips:

 (http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff176/MonstermashS2R/Hedmantips.jpg)

so where and how did you put the baffles in?

I was thinking the same thing

+1.  Did you just jam the narrow end into the Hedman inlet before you mated it to the rest of the system?

Scott

The baffles are welded into the reducers. They stick out past them and into the header/udder but it's no big deal.

 I also take the time to smooth out the welds where the Tips are joined to the reducers so it looks almost seemless.

you don't even need baffles with the hedman's if you use the udder it really isn't that loud I had hedmans on my udder and unless you change it  you should be fine without

 I ran my bike with just the udder for a few hours and it sounded like crap. The Hedmans don't really muffle the sound that much. I found I had to add the baffles with my QuatD header otherwise it sounded like a Harley.  [puke]

I've read the many threads on TOB and have a couple of questions.

1.  What is the diameter of the header pipe?  I've seen a guess at 1 7/8 inch.  If it is 1 7/8 inch then why weld a reducer pipe to the Hooker 1 7/8 in - 3 out pipe?  Why buy a larger tip and then mod it down as opposed to buy a tip that fits?

2.  Is it safe to assume that all that have done this are using the tip with resonator at min and adding baffles to that?

3.  For those with S*R bikes, did you mount these or are they simply hanging off of the header pipes.

I have the full DP Termi kit currently (racing ecu, open box, midpipe and high termis), but really don't like the look and am always looking to reduce weight and increase performance of the bike as a whole.  I'd guess that it should save 5 - 10lbs and clean up the rear significantly.  I'd appreciate some input as I consider this.

where would one locate the baffles? I agree the udder by itself seems a but loose sounding i think a baffle would tightin up the sound.

 I found mine on Ebay. The funny thing was that after I use the buy it now option I looked to see where they would be shipped from and it turned out they were in the next town. So I  called and asked if I could pick them up and what their address was and they were less than 5 minutes from my house.  [laugh]

does anyone know whether this setup on an s2r800 is possible with the udder intact?  so basically exchanging the mufflers for these tips, and if so which inlet/outlet size i should be looking at?  if possible i'm going to have my friend install these on my bike as i am a mechanical ignoramus  :-[

I believe the S2R800 and 1000 use the same udder...So the same size that Monstermash used should work for you too.

I don't have an udder on my bike. I have a QuatD header.

But yes, Bmonty is correct, the outlets are the same size.

Small tucked cans on this one.
[url]http://www.hardrockmotorsports.com/hr1_web/HR1_web_street_DUCATI_MONSTER.html/url]

No vid link for any duc with one but an 1125R and xb12s.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRcpG9F3BXo/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGUIhhbhNvw&feature=related/url]

All the others were inlines on youtube.

I think the adjustment is questionable. I'd rather see it operable without tools.

That's a seriously sweet looking tiny exhaust.  I'm not sure about the variable backpressure, I think I'd set it once and then forget about it.

Scott

Nice find.

Here's a vid with the Duc 800ss

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k8YoXczE0w

 Yeah, those are pretty cool little pipes but the sound in the video has been modified. The will sound completely different in real life.