Ducati Monster Forum

I snatched these pics from this thread (http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4316494#post4316494) form BARF.  Apparently, they are of a 696-style monster at Indy.  Hopefully, some DMFers got some shots as well and can post up.  The photobucket pics are hosted by the original poster on BARF, so I can't guarantee how long they'll last.

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I have *no* desire to open the 696 can-o-worms, but now that we're starting to see what people do with the 696 canvas, I'm getting excited.  I'm looking forward to the creations that folks come up with.   [thumbsup]

Someone's been *very* busy.

Neat!

if that was a real model, i'd drop my S2R like a bad smell, that looks sweet!

Holy SH*T!  :o :o :o

Looks pretty good  [thumbsup]

NOW that's a great exhaust system for the 696. and you can use saddlebags!!!

and LOVE the red calipers.. definitely another mod i HAVE to do.

oooo and the polished rear subframe

still trying to figure out besides color what diff about the light. it's polished too, but lower?

That's it; I'm holding out on the new model untill Ducati makes THIS bike (OK, maybe an 1100 aircooled)

I only count 6 or so parts from the 696; all the rest is custom.

Seriously, the red calipers?  They're one of the worst parts of the bike.  They stand out like a sore thumb.  Bling for the sake of bling.  Blech.  They should either be black or silver.

There's a lot of interesting stuff on that bike.  
For example, those are Brake-Tech carriers, but what is that black rotor material?
The subframe does look a lot better when the casting is smoothed out.  But I don't know if it should be polished.  It detracts from the trellis.
Undertail exhaust are super-bling, but undertails are kinda "ho-hum" for me.  They're more flash than substance.  That said, that one is interesting.  Looks more like the Desmosedici than the 1098.
Is that a 1098 swingarm?  
What engine is that (all 4v look alike to me).
I wanna see a close-up of the instrument cluster.  From a distance, it looks like an very cool cockpit view.  What did they do with the brake and clutch reservoirs?

Whoever did that fixed many of the things i don't like about the 696.  [clap]

1) Fixed the exhaust through the frame.  [puke]
2) Fixed the rear swingarm.  [puke]
3) Fixed the ugly rearsets.  [puke]

On top of it all, they gave is a dry clutch motor.  [thumbsup]

That is now a very nice bike.   [beer]

The only thing I'd change is the exhaust can.  Maybe go with a dual round can/exit if possible.  :-\

ok, so a wish list comes from this bike and other threads. btw... this should be the BOTM [moto]

1) I like the smoothed casting on the rear subframe, and powdercoating it to match the front trellis makes the bike that much more 'one'
2) I would also like to see the same thing on the rear swingarm.
3) same thing for the headlight casting.
4) I do like the red calipers on the white bike because it brings out the red in the 'monster' on the tank. yes a style opinion, but it's one of the reasons, my helmet is red, black and white.
5) Black rearsets that have a removable passenger set.
6) after looking more, i don't like the angular exhausts, i like the underseat, but the hightail appearance could also be accomplished with boomtubes. or twin oval undertail exhausts
7) oil cooler, i still think Ducati will make a cooler aftermarket fit for the 696 because the mounts are there behind that screen in the front.
8) and if you really were to remove the bike from it's heart, painting the heart black is extra cool too
9) the barracuda chin piece

Are thosw ceramic coated brake rotors? I really dig the look of that thing.

Yeah, I was wondering about those. If they are powdercoated I guess it won't last for long though.

Those are BrakeTech AXIS Iron Rotors.
and according to the Motowheels website "Black coating on the rotor blade pictured will come off with use, where it contacts the pad."


That exhaust is beyond cool, but I wonder what you do for tail lights.   license plate?    Blah I am being too practical.



EDIT:  OK look again and I take it it is just a rolling chassis they are working on.  Wiring is incomplete and no brake lines are a couple other things I spot.

Yes you are  >:(. I'm really hoping Zard would pick this up and make one in CF with a solution for the lights & license plate of course

A water cooled 696 - that IS custom. :)  This bike looks great.
I NEED to know where that relocated overflow tank came from.

I normally don't do bling for the sake of bling, but those are monoblocks aren't they? Like em
And I'm wondering if the  Brake-Tech rotors are the protective coating that comes on ductile iron rotors or ceramic. I'm thinking ceramic. Spend that kind of money on the other stuff - why not?
The subframe and the trellis are cool in my book.
The Undertail exhaust looks to be large dia, but not too large - way cool.
That is a 1098 swingarm and I like it. 
The engine must be a desmo quattro judging by the distance between the cams.

Do something like this with a 1098 in it and sign me up. Maybe even a slightly detuned 1199 - pull stumps with it. [thumbsup]

Yea, somebody's been very busy and has a whole lot more money than I do.

LA

Is it really accurate to call this a heavily modded 696? It seems as thought the only parts they kept are the frame, tank and headlight. When you replace the engine, complete front end, complete rear end with what appears to be 1098 parts, then it might be more accurate to call it a heavily modded 1098.

I agree. The only thing about this bike that's a 696 is the frame, tank, headlight, and seat cowl. It's a sweet set up, but not a 696. At least we get an idea of what you can do with a M1100.  [thumbsup]

Give me the exhaust and the rearsets and I'd be happy  [thumbsup]

pretty much what i was thinking as well.
not bad though....

No resivoirs for the clutch or brake?

+1 on the exhaust. [thumbsup]

Pitch the new style headlight

Can you say wheelie? [evil]

Those brake rotors are the standard iron BrakeTech parts, that's how they look right out of the box.
The ceramic rotors are a different color, kinda funky brownish gray, and they don't have the holes.

The motor is a Desmoquattro SBK unit, pretty sure it's a 916/996.

That overflow tank looks like the standard SBK part as well (actually, it's a 'header' tank, it would need an overflow tank too).

Brake and clutch reservoirs are still in a box somewhere, along with the brake lines and wiring harness, hopefully there's some kind of airbox or air filters in that box too.

There's a bunch of work left to do on it, that's for sure.

or brake lines.........
a work in progress?

That thing is AWESOME!!

neato [thumbsup]

Think about this.

HOW much time and effort went into making that 696 what it "should" have looked like in the first place?

It's a great custom.  But that's what Ducati should have done in their design studios.

So, take the cost of a 696, add all the extras, a custom undertail exhaust, and finally get a good looking bike.

It's still no Monster, but that's subjective for sure.  It'd need a trestle frame for that. . .  ;)

 :o

That bike is awesome. Looks so slick it makes me think it was done by DNA, although it's not finished. Front axle's not aligned, clutch hose is missing, etc. Maybe some dealer's ongoing project. Undertail exhaust is hot, some intense fabrication work. That's a hot bike with some very expensive parts.

696  [roll]  Not even close.

Nice brake lines.  :-\

I see copious amounts of drool rolling off that bike.  Somebody loves it no matter what it is.  I dig it fo' sho'!   [thumbsup]

Don't be surprised that within 18 months or so, you are going to see more radical 696's (1100's as well) like this one or even wilder...

I know of a few underway currently and one that is planned here.  ;D

Glad to see it being displayed at MotoGP Indy!  Hopefully it stops raining and somebody gets a chance to take a few more good quality pictures.

As opposed to a number of bikes here? At what point do you become not a monster?

Thats kinds cool.

 It addresses all the things I hate about the 696.

 IMO one of the worst styling points of the 696 is the way the exhaust from the horizontal cyclinder is routed. The exhaust on this is very cool.

 Also, it's hard to argue with an Ohlins equiped bike.  [thumbsup]

 The only thing that would turn me off about that bike would be stock seat and the way it crushes your manhood. Anyone have an aftermarket seat on their 696 yet?

Saw it today! [thumbsup]

Awesome ;D ;D ;D

There is also an accessorized 696 on display with "sharpie" grafitti art on the tanks drawn by Roland Sands. Very cool!  ;D

I will take some pics tomorrow.

YEP I SAW IT AND HAVE PICS IT WAS SICKKKKKKKKKK

That's some great work!

finally, the 696 looks like a MONSTER  [thumbsup]

Other then the frame/tank/headlight...not a 696.

And, yes, just brake tech iron rotors that haven't been used yet.

Cool though.

I watched that bike being crated up at SoCal Ducati just last week   [thumbsup]

I don't like the looks of the 696 at all.

And as cool as that bike looks in pictures, it looks even better in person.

And the rear rotor is also iron and has part of the black finish worn off.

And it's a 996 motor.

I'll take some pics tomorrow for you all.

how would one achieve that polished sub frame look? is it a ton of buffing and polishing? or is it a re-paint?

i was looking at it, and the only way i think is to take the bike apart, which i'm sure they did in this case since it's a new engine.
but i bet some sort of beadblasting/polish to make it smooth then powdercoating?

IF I were to take my bike apart, which i won't... i would do the rear subframe, and the swingarm both like that. maybe even modify the swingarm and cut out those indentations and reinforce the inside.

very cool...   and even cooler that he's got everyone wondering what the f*ck he did

Raux... thanks.

I have decided to pick up a 696 after some hard thought and what not... should get in december. I was thinking of the same mods... polishing the sub-frame & swing arm, and chopping the metal piece that holds the rear pegs. I found a cheap place to powder coat parts... so I am interested in seeing what I can take off and coat... I am also hoping i can black out the exhaust pipe exiting the engine. all and all... should be a work intensive winter.

OMG.  Makes me want to do some mods on my 696. 8)

have you also noticed that you can shorten up the rear subframe even more. if you are chopping the passenger pegs you could add that to the list since you won't need the extra seat length. I'll be curious to see if anyone is going to do a tubular rear subframe and swingarm for the bike.

i think if you do that, the boom tubes or realllll short pipes would be better since you won't have any A** to speak of and the pipes will be off in lala land.

how about black ceramic coating the exhaust and pipes so they aren't so stick out apparently across the motor. honestly the routing keeps the bottom of the bike real clean.

i have tons of ideas, but no interest in tearing apart my bike, hell i put the CW short tail and higher temp lights and blew fuses. not my forte. but designing... i can come up with a lot of different directions.

FYI
this bike was not commissioned or built by Ducati, but a labor of love by an independent  builder/fabricator Bryan P. from NJ in collaboration with Martins in PA. Bryan worked feverishly to get the bike in a presentable form to show off at the Indy GP. there are a few items to be finished before the bike is completed, but he wanted everyone to see it. I think it is a tremendous effort on his part ! Martins will be doing a feature on there web site in the future on this bike so stay tuned!!

Great job Bryan!!! ;D [clap]

-maire from CC

would have been nice if it would actually run.........

no brake lines
no spark plug lines
etc
etc



The worst bike there was that piece of shit Roland Sands made  [puke]

Coolest was probably the sharpie artwork bike, I am sure someone got a pic

Are you talking about the Hyper that he did?

I agree.  And I might like it even less after having seen it in person.

The one cool thing about it, which I'd never picked up on through online pics was the desmo valve print in the tank side panels.



I'm getting ready to upload pics.  Should have 'em up in a couple of minutes.   [thumbsup]

that's kinda funny. it appears that roland did the sharpie bike, too:

You are correct sir. It looks like shit


that's interesting, I thought it was a pretty cool idea, but still doesn't make me think any more of that motard he ruined

Okay, first here're pics of the bike that's the topic of this thread...




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No airbox or filters yet...

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Here's the rear rotor where I said you can see the coating wearing off the iron...

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And here's a detail shot of the desmo print I was talking about on Sands' Hyper.


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And since I've seen the Sharpie bike mentioned several different places, I'll start a thread on it.

I'm going out on a limb here, but I think that high gloss subframe blends better with the front frame. It makes the whole look more coherent. I wonder what that would look in red.

Beck was this in Ducati Island?  How did I miss it :'(

When you walked into Ducati Island through the bike entrance, if you kept walking straight ahead 15' you would've run into it.

It was outside the SBK Concorso tent on the left side of the entrance.

I walked right past it, I see one Desmosedici and I black out and wake up to "sir, sir please don't hug that!"

 [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

So you were the one that did this to it?



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Love hurts

This bike that is the topic of this forum belongs to my friend Brian. It was finished Thursday morning and loaded onto my truck for the Indy Moto GP weekend. We just got home late last night and the bike will be finished within the next few weeks. Look for it in several motorcycle magazines in the future. Just some info it started life as a new 2009 Monster 696 and was cut, chopped, and rebuilt in less than 5 weeks. You wouldn't believe the amount of hours that went into this thing. We didn't even think we were going to make Indy but we did.  [thumbsup]

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more details please!  Lookin good so far

It has a 1098 swing arm, a highly modified one off exhaust, and a hot rod 996 motor.The stock Monster frame had to be modified as well. We did not have time to install the wire harness, brake, lights, turn singnals, so the bike does not run. It will later this month. Pic's do it no justice it is one sick looking bike. Brain is a real artist/bike builder. He showed me the drawing of this bike 6 weeks ago and it looks exact to his drawing that he showed me. It just amazing what he can do.

Brain is going to kill me for posting this, but the bike drew lots of crowds around it all weekend at Indy. The bike even attracted some hot babes from Ducati Island  ;D

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the bike truely is stunningly beautifully MEAN!

only thing i would have changed is the color of the brake rotors. THATS IT!   [clap] [clap]

LOL it's funny that you said that. On the way home in my truck Brain said he was going to change the brake rotors on the bike.

Once they get used, those rotors will turn silver.

That is a sick bike!  [thumbsup]

This is Brain's favorite photo with the Ducati babes since it shows off the bike a little more without being distracted ;D I know he won't get too mad at me for posting this one ;D

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we don't want him to get mad at you.. so you can just post pics of the babes..  ;D

Is his name Brian or Brain?  Sweet bike.

These mods completely and utterly rectify every major issue I personally had with the original 696.

Those being:
- The visual flow of the instrument panel with tank.
- The removal of the cans
- SSS + wheels
- Engine + dry clutch woo
- No longer looks like a Japanese bike

This thing looks absolutely feral... in a good way.

To me this *IS* the true successor to the original monster design. It's got soul, it's got passion, it's got the right lines-- absolutely perfect.

GREAT JOB BRIAN. And amazing turnover from concept to execution. 6 weeks!

Only thing i'd change is if a small instrument panel is needed, perhaps try the Hypermotard one, cos that one being used is a tad tacky looking.
You could even pull off putting a curved arrow-shaped plexiglass screen without detracting from the looks of it.

Love that exhaust...looks very "finished" and clean 

Who was it that said a 4v wouldn't fit in the 696 frame? Wheel hitting the radiator etc...

Obviously someone who had never tried to do it.

Just because it is not hitting when parked doesn't mean it won't hit when riding it.  It looks really close in the side view pics.

mitt

Well, when I spoke to the guy at Indy, he did state it was a heavily modified 696 frame.  Where there is a will, there is a way.

Besides, that just makes it more like a 1098 R, which got held out of masterbike this year because changing to a different tire brand caused the front to hit the radiator.

Pretty sure he wouldn't go to all that trouble if he couldn't even ride it.

I remember thinking the same thing while I was standing there looking at it.

It really did look like it was going to make contact when the forks compress.

Others have...

It is hard to know exactly if it will touch with all the flex and bounce and compression that a front end goes through.

There have been more than several threads over the years on Monster forums about this problem when folks are doing engine swaps / radiator locations / custom frames / etc.

mitt

Looked at the pics a bit closer....

IMO, the front wheel will hit the rad.

hell the first batch of S4RSs on our shore had the rad clearance issue right out of the crate.

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This pic looks like contact waiting to happen.  Regardless it is a great looking bike, with a lot of nice work, and will be very cool when it is finished.

mitt

ehh, just go MotoGP style and put smaller front wheel on it :)

Or move the radiator undertail, do an under bike exhaust and a different cowl to vent the heat

;D

If the tire might hit the radiator -- just build a new radiator or modify the existing one.  Pretty easy to do. 

To mount beneath the seat?  it would be a nightmare to put the radiator there-- not enough air volume and too close to the exhaust besides the waterline routing headache that would occur -- you'd have to run the water lines external of the frame which would be fugly at best.

ARC pulled it off ;D (which is where I got the idea)

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Didn't Benelli do this?

No comments about those low clip-ons? These are what make the bike for me. But I'd like to see a pic of the bike at full lock with the lines and reservoirs and mirrors and all that jazz...

But boy, would I love me some clip-ons. [moto]

Damn! Love the exhaust!!  [thumbsup]

Man!!! I love it!!! I think it's gorgeous!!!!  [clap]  [clap]  [clap]

Celli

That's cool but I think it would look 10x better with an aircooled 1100cc motor in there haha.

It is a crazy hot looking bike.
The clip-ons look brilliant on it, really sets the look off.
Gives me great ideas for the M1100.

Guess im old school because I still love the original monster design.   That clip-on looks painful.

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is there any update info on this bike? like is it running? did the wheel hit the rad? finished pic?

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Well, that guy sure seemed to like the bike a lot.

Looks like the exhaust is from Comp. works -->
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I really hope they 're going to make it fit the 1100 [moto]

Slightly off topic: Since I'm not the only one who hates the radiator on the LC Monsters, I'm kind of surprised nobody has come up with a kit to "fix" it.

Essentially something like what they did on the Vyrus:

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While a low slung radiator isn't the best place for it, it sure does improve the looks...

There is some nice work going on there for sure, but why in the hell would you go BACK to a quattro motor, when the testa is so much nicer.  Not only from a power standpoint, but a maintenance standpoint as well. 

 [bang]

Probably because they (or somebody) had a 996 motor gathering dust in the corner.
And I'm sure it was heaps cheaper than a testa.

It would probably hold it's own against a testa.

Monstersedici's is equipped with a race-winning 996 motor, 12-1 compression, 500 gram flywheel, Power Commander, full 57MM Termingoni race exhaust system, lightweight billet pulleys and cam covers, and aviation-grade titanium fasteners. Race-built by Bill Himmelsbach, Eurosports

The DQ motor is quite stout when built right. The last time my S4R was on the dyno we were pushing 148/87 to the wheel and that's not done yet. (fully built motor for those about to cry "Randall!")  I take much pride in achieving those numbers with the "obsolete" engine.   ;D

Sure, a stock one with a full exhaust.  You can get a 104mm testa motor for $3500, pretty common price when they come available.  For those not in the know, thats the 999r motor.

104mm bore testa's, with ported heads and the big tube exhaust are pushing low 160's with the stock "R" cams...and thats with a stock stroke.

It's all relative, and I guess it sounded like I was knocking the old motor.  I was, but only sue to the pain in the ass valve adjustments, and the known issues with rockers. 


Bottom line... Bike still kicks ass :D

The more I see the bike the more  I like it.  But nobody does it as well as the factory.

Remember when Strati was putting a deep sump motor in a monster frame?  He sweated blood over it and before he could get it on the street, Ducati had one on the showroom floor for $15 large.  Case in point here being the StreetFighter 1098.  Not the same thing, but same neighborhood for sure.

All said an done, though this bike is way bad ass in my book. 

Wonder what a 1098 StreetFighter would look like when these guys got finished with one?  But then again, what mods would you do the a StreetFighter S?

LA

I like it so much I've got a muffler/can headed my direction just like that.  Going to see what it'll look like stuffed under an "older" monster :D

That project will be in a new topic VERY soon please  [moto] [bacon] [bow_down] [thumbsup]

PS You can stop calling our bikes "older". We have Monsters. 696/1100 are "new"  ;)

Look forward to seeing what you do with that muffler on your scoot..

Bump... I'm curious as to how this bike ended up. Did it ever get working controls?

I'd love to hear that exhaust...

SPANKEE? Bryan P? ...Bueller? ???

That bike is in the shop I work at, It's just on display right now. Brian's a friend of mine, I think he's working on some new project at the moment. I'll post up some more pics this weekend if anyone wants.

YUa, post em,

Lets see that machine!!

more pics and updates please.

and whats bryan workin' on now?

I tried to fit a superbike radiator overflow like that in my s4rs but it wouldn't fit :(  Does anyone know if it *should* fit or are the frames different enough that there is no hope...  That Indy 696 is such a cool bike -

The tank up by the steering head is actually a header tank, not an overflow tank.
It's part of the pressurized system.

I suppose you could use it as an overflow tank, *if* it can be plumbed that way on your S4Rs.

No idea why it didn't fit on your bike.

They should make an exhaust like that for the m1100s.... i would be all over it. 

That is if i end up getting a m1100S or not...

Hi everyone,
        My name is Bryan Petersen and this is my bike. Im sorry it took me so long to get on your forum so that I can take some of your questions and let you know why the bike is the way it is. The bike has changed some sence these pics were posted. I will try to get some new ones up asap.
                                                                                Thanks, Bryan

[popcorn]

Oh, and Taftanomos - no more announcing new projects unless you start posting more pics!   ;D

Hell yeah, looking forward to this!

Yes. And it worked very well, there's plenty of air flow, since the wheel be a-rotatin'

any new pics yet?

[popcorn]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/59696214@N02/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59696214@N02/)

Thats Brians (the builders) flickr account and every pic he has of it.

Does anyone know what engine that is? 1000ds? [bacon] [bow_down] [bow_down]

It's a water cooled motor. Which one I don't know.

highly customised 996 without 140 at the rear  [evil]

With or without?  :D

IT has 140 at the rear, I am without sobriety  [thumbsup]

Ha  [thumbsup]

nice. direct bolt up? no way right...

no way.. tons of things to deal with

are you being funny, i know there are a lot of bolts, but they have to modify the trallis somehow right?

I think physically, the engine will bolt up to the frame, however, things like the swingarm, exhaust, rear suspension geometry are what come into play to complicate matters.

Found some build pics on his new shop's facebook

http://www.facebook.com/people/Arete-Moto/100001681636851 (http://www.facebook.com/people/Arete-Moto/100001681636851)

wow, they did it again
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?id=100001681636851&aid=26537 (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?id=100001681636851&aid=26537)

yep, A LOT OF CHANGES

just spoke with him on facebook, he said he cant log on to talk more about his project bikes, he's banned? can anyone confirm?

his handle is mia monster

I talked to him on the phone, then pm'd DP about it.

    No worries, im back it most have just been a prob with the site. Thanks guys

Just to wake the topic.....on that 696 the rear swing arm was changed with one from 1098....would it be possible to use single seing arm from 796?

I'd say it would likely be heaps easier than using a 1098 swingarm.

It may even bolt straight up, it could happen.

Best to look at parts diagrams to see the differences between them.

So, as swap on 796 it would be need it; engine, injectors, ecu, wiring...probably rear shock. And it might play.
Only negative side as i see it is loosing ABS...

If you want to discuss modding your bike please start a thread in ACC&Mods.