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Title: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: tristantumble on September 21, 2008, 05:53:59 AM
i'm looking for pics of bikes that people have painted the metal ring around the headlight black. Also how did you do this? I'm not much of a DIY-er, but with proper instruction, i'm sure i could.

thanks,
tt


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: Ranger06 on September 21, 2008, 06:06:50 AM
I did it the quick and lazy way, just to see if I liked it.  The hardest part was getting the ring off the headlight.  I took it apart, sanded it by hand, just enough to give it that brushed stainless look, then hit it with a few coats of rattle can flat-black rustolium.  Not perfect, but I would like to eventually pick up a spare and have it powder coated.  Cant be without the bike while parts are in the shop, thus the spare.  One of the easiest mods...next to swapping out the sprocket cover.
(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/joev160/DSC_6970.jpg)


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: He Man on September 21, 2008, 08:46:34 AM
i'm looking for pics of bikes that people have painted the metal ring around the headlight black. Also how did you do this? I'm not much of a DIY-er, but with proper instruction, i'm sure i could.

thanks,
tt

Take it of, sand it and paint it. or mask everything, sand it, paint it.


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: m9hundo on September 21, 2008, 12:46:02 PM
Just remove it with a philips screw driver (screw on the bottom) sand it down with some fine grit sand paper. It dose not have to be perfect, just get it smooth.  Buy some flat black paint and whisk it back and forth hitting the paint button in every stroke. Don't stay in one spot and spray because you get the paint to run. Don't use corse sand paper because you'll leave streaks on the headlight rim and it'll look rough. If you have a toaster oven put the ring in there once done painting at 300 degrees and let it sit for about 10-15 minutes. Keep an eye on it though.  In the hot summer days I just set it on top of the wall and let the sun bake it.  Good luck, it's simple.


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: Bbrent on September 21, 2008, 02:26:33 PM
As stated above. Remove it. Sand it then hit it with a couple of coats of rustolem or metail paint. Make sure you let it dry for a few hours before putting it back on.

(http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n417/Bbrent_photos/Ducati003.jpg?t=1222035821)


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: WFO58 on September 21, 2008, 03:05:36 PM
I  took it all apart and used a circular sander with 60 grit to open up the chrome.  I then used laquer primer to fill and then finished with 180 grit. The final coat was Krylon satin black enamel. If you want the paint to stick you really need to grind into the chrome. I also used CF brackets from Monsterparts.

(http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo359/wfo58_photo/Monster/IMG_0090.jpg)
(http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo359/wfo58_photo/IMG_0448.jpg)


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: wraith on September 21, 2008, 05:58:49 PM
spray can job undercoat and matt black, chrome eventually chips, just take it off and spray again it only took a couple hours

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3153/2713287436_069b406c9d.jpg)


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: Monstyr on September 22, 2008, 04:32:32 AM
Take it apart and get it powdercoated like mine,it'll be a lot tougher and wear better than paint.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/salsajayne/may007.jpg)


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: djomlas on September 22, 2008, 07:16:27 AM
black looks the best...chrome is for a Harley, then again, anything chrome on a sport bike   [bang]
(http://i37.tinypic.com/8xsmes.jpg)




Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: stateprez on September 22, 2008, 07:16:47 AM
Sanded, primed, painted flat with a coat of metallic on top.  Matched the frame pretty well.  No chips.

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h286/CPrezioso/DSCN0287.jpg)


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: ProTeal55 on September 22, 2008, 11:13:36 AM
Painted low gloss black (like everything else on the bike)..
(http://www.halffastchicago.com/members/MemberRides/Joe_Duc_01.jpg)
Think it looks much better than the stock/chrome (my opinion)..


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: Travman on September 23, 2008, 06:54:27 AM
If you don't like the look of the chrome ring you can also try the brushed metal look, by simply sanding the ring with a very light sandpaper.  You get rid of the chrome, but still have the contrast of the black headlight bucket with the silver metal ring.

(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm21/JonTravisKing/Ducati%20Monster%20620/20080613_Ducati620_TailChopSmoke-6.jpg?t=1223857025)

(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm21/JonTravisKing/Ducati%20Monster%20620/20080613_Ducati620_TailChopSmoke-4.jpg?t=1222181091)


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: ProTeal55 on September 23, 2008, 07:12:25 AM
Red Scotch brite pads work well for the "scuffed" look...


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: TAftonomos on September 23, 2008, 08:01:44 AM
I was going to toss mine into the powder coat box....will the blasting etch into the chrome enough you think?


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: darkattackdog on September 28, 2008, 12:26:14 PM
I did it the quick and lazy way, just to see if I liked it.  The hardest part was getting the ring off the headlight.  I took it apart, sanded it by hand, just enough to give it that brushed stainless look, then hit it with a few coats of rattle can flat-black rustolium.  Not perfect, but I would like to eventually pick up a spare and have it powder coated.  Cant be without the bike while parts are in the shop, thus the spare.  One of the easiest mods...next to swapping out the sprocket cover.
(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/joev160/DSC_6970.jpg)

How did you get the rim of the headlight?  I've loosened the Philips head screw but I can't get it to screw out and I also have tried tightening it back on, but it won't do that either.  What's the trick here?


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: Ranger06 on September 28, 2008, 08:14:50 PM
That was the hardest part of the process for me, I rotated the ring around the light until it looked/felt like some of these nubs and grooves were lining up, then I just pulled it off.  I would have bet money I was going to break it, but didn't.  Seems to go back on a lot easier than it comes off...but it does come off.


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: Monstyr on September 29, 2008, 01:05:20 AM
The screw isnt meant to come out, just loosen it and you should be able to work the rim off, be careful with the 'net' of springs that hold the glass to the rim,its possible to fit them back the wrong way though its only really secure if they are fitted correctly.


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: Rameses on September 29, 2008, 01:51:59 PM
I recall taking one apart a couple of years ago where the captive nut into which the machine screw threads was spinning.

iirc, I had to pry the ring off.  Using great care in the process, I was able to do it without damaging anything.

Then, once I had it apart, I bent the cage for the captive nut tighter to hold it in place.


And +1 on powdercoating.


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: bdfinally on October 06, 2008, 02:05:39 PM
I took mine apart this past weekend and no fuss. Rattle canned both the ring and supports for the Dart Flyscreen, came out great let's see if they stand up.

(http://images40.fotki.com/v1339/fileglzH/e9935/9/90501/341997/frontend.jpg)


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: pjfa on October 07, 2008, 05:55:21 AM
(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9392/dsc01539os7.jpg)


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: Raux on October 07, 2008, 08:55:48 AM
Yep mine too

(http://img8.werkenntwen.de/photo4/5a9a6ab448ab3e6e592e783d20c28692/v/7/v7bij0pd7tn457lvq5i2dgruv2e.jpg)


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: DucHead on October 09, 2008, 03:36:04 PM
Yep mine too

(http://img8.werkenntwen.de/photo4/5a9a6ab448ab3e6e592e783d20c28692/v/7/v7bij0pd7tn457lvq5i2dgruv2e.jpg)

It might look cool to paint the inside of your windshield black.


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: Raux on October 09, 2008, 04:47:52 PM
you mean smoke it. yeah i thought about that. but not sure how to do it without ruining it if i dont like it. maybe i'll take it off and get some film and try it that way. it's cheap at lowe's.. errr guess i'm going to the store.

UPDATE- after looking at the film and the complex curves of the plastic, and the fact the film said dont use on plastic... i'm deciding against this course of action. maybe someone will make a dark or hopefully a tail screen that mounts on the stock fairing.


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: JTMOTO on October 10, 2008, 03:38:48 PM
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq277/jtmoto/10-10-08080.jpg)

Powdercoated, I tried spraying it three times and it kept scatching off.


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: Cider on October 10, 2008, 07:16:41 PM
I did powdercoat as well.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3111/2428977644_7327210849_o.jpg)


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: Magnus on October 10, 2008, 09:02:08 PM
you could also paint it to match another color on the bike, like so

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg216/mikesixtysix/blackfog/IMG_3807.jpg)


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: dutchy73 on October 11, 2008, 02:29:26 PM
It might look cool to paint the inside of your windshield black.

I thought the same thing. here is what it looks like smoked...

(http://gallery.me.com/theo.keetell/100150/IMG_1737.jpg?derivative=medium&source=web.jpg&type=medium&ver=12237634170002)

It looks ok on the bike. But I wasn't loving it. In general, I don't really like the windshield anyway, so it took it back off.


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: dutchy73 on October 11, 2008, 02:37:10 PM
and here is the headlight painted black from the front and side.

(http://gallery.me.com/theo.keetell/100150/IMG_1740/web.jpg)

(http://gallery.me.com/theo.keetell/100150/IMG_1743/web.jpg)


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: Raux on October 11, 2008, 02:41:19 PM
I thought the same thing. here is what it looks like smoked...

(http://gallery.me.com/theo.keetell/100150/IMG_1737.jpg?derivative=medium&source=web.jpg&type=medium&ver=12237634170002)

It looks ok on the bike. But I wasn't loving it. In general, I don't really like the windshield anyway, so it took it back off.

how'd you do it?


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: dutchy73 on October 11, 2008, 02:52:07 PM
...rattle can to the inside of the plastic. I removed it from the frame, cleaned it REALLY well first, taped off the edges and outside of the plastic. Cleaned the inside again and paid closed attention to not leave any streaks. Then right before I put paint to it, I wiped it down again lightly with a lint free cloth. Then I sprayed a few light coats, then one heavier coat. Let dry, put it back together...done. It's a satin black on the inside, gloss on the outside.

Like I said, I am not a fan of the windshield anyway, so I didn't mind trying it out to see if it looked good. I like it much better all black then clear, but still not enough to leave it on my bike, but that's just me. If you like the windshield, give it a shot as I am sure you will dig it.


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: TAftonomos on October 12, 2008, 07:36:48 AM
you could also paint it to match another color on the bike, like so

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg216/mikesixtysix/blackfog/IMG_3807.jpg)

Only thing it's missing the the headlight ring and forks anodized black ;) [thumbsup]  Then again, the rotor carriers, and DLC the sliders.  Ok, now it's done :D


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: Magnus on October 12, 2008, 02:59:49 PM
Only thing it's missing the the headlight ring and forks anodized black ;) [thumbsup]  Then again, the rotor carriers, and DLC the sliders.  Ok, now it's done :D

If I had bad taste, then yeah, I'd do that...  there's such a thing as too much black.   [roll]


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: TAftonomos on October 12, 2008, 04:02:16 PM
Whooooaah  relax there big guy, I didn't mean to pee in your cornflakes.  Sorry I'm not allowed to have a different opinion and say something on a message board  [laugh]


I did just get back my headlight ring, powdercoated black in bad taste.  I think it looks great, and for $10, you can't beat the finish/durability.  Only problem with paint I see is potential for rock chips.


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: junior varsity on April 15, 2009, 09:24:51 PM
Finally got around to doing this. Along with CF turn signal brackets, Rizoma Signals, Titanium Bolts and Ti drilled washers. powdercoating was a little thick on the inside part of the ring so I had to file it quite a bit to get it all back together. While that was a pregnant dog to do, it was worth it because I'm happy with the results.

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_4iYlZ1m8UEM/Sea85mCzakI/AAAAAAAADBc/DOcZ_crcjoY/s400/IMG00038-20090415-1926.jpg)

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_4iYlZ1m8UEM/Sea85qJcQoI/AAAAAAAADBU/n-hG3JOWuwI/s400/IMG00034-20090415-1922.jpg)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_4iYlZ1m8UEM/Sea85ROjSUI/AAAAAAAADBM/7W6DxD5eNFU/s400/IMG00033-20090415-1922.jpg)


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: DucHead on April 16, 2009, 03:01:31 AM
Since the headlight brackets are grommeted,  do you think that aluminum bolts would be sufficient (anodized of course) to hold the headlight in the brackets?


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: junior varsity on April 16, 2009, 04:38:05 AM
Well, I think the aluminum bolts would be plenty good to replace the M8 bolts on the sides of the bucket - I went with Titanium for the tapered, high-tech look. I've got a set of aluminum bolts holding the U-Bracket in as well - seen somebody else do this with colored bolts so they had to be anodized aluminum. I guess my only worry is excessive vibration, but there isn't a lot of load on them (less than those which people use to replace their engine side cover bolts with I believe.)


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: junior varsity on April 16, 2009, 06:41:55 AM
For any body stumbling across this later with headlight ring related issues - the small bracket that is fitted to the inside of the ring by the small screw at the 6 o'clock position - this is used to apply tension and hold the ring to the bucket when have it all assembled. You have to remove the screw, square "retaining nuts", and bracket to go to the powder coater.

when i went to put mine back together, i had boogered up (technical term) the screw's threads and couldn't get it to turn very easily. BUT, atomemphis, WHAT SIZE SCREW IS THAT?!?

Tell you what, I'll go out of my way to solve that problem for you, free of charge: M4 works great. Use an M4x20 or so, that way you have plenty of threads to use, put some tension in it so when you have it together, you don't have to worry about the square retaining nut popping up and out of the bracket, preventing you from getting the proper 'torque'.

I happened to have a Ti socket head for this too, which is nice since I just get to use mostly hex-wrenches to take most of the motorcycle apart.


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: Chchadder on April 16, 2009, 07:03:05 AM
I did mine with truck bed liner paint, as well as the headlight bucket.  Gives it that nice rough finish and has held up well.  Wish I could say the same thing for the belt covers that are bubbling...again.  I almost considered leaving it with a clear finish after I sanded it, it looked so nice all bare aluminum and all. 


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: JEFF_H on April 16, 2009, 09:57:51 AM
I chromed the headlight bucket to match the chrome ring
 ;D


Title: Re: headlight rim painted black?
Post by: ducrider45 on April 16, 2009, 12:43:26 PM
Still working on this one. Btw, it started with painting parts black [evil]

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv108/ducrider45/000_1534.jpg?t=1239911693 (http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv108/ducrider45/000_1534.jpg?t=1239911693)
(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv108/ducrider45/000_1534.jpg?t=1239911693)


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