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Title: Street Fighter update Post by: RetroSBK on May 30, 2009, 11:17:38 AM Hey Y'all
Up to about 1200 miles on her now.. Moved a few things, opened up the airbox, moved the footrest out, and the exhaust heatshield in. tool TWENTY ONE FEET of worthless tubing off the bike... The wring is a mess stock, too many bits need 3 ro 4 wires and cables So a lil list of some of the changes we are going to do for your consideration and comment... 1) Custom Exhaust, endingup with one muffler 2) cut the frame apart, change some of the tubes to oval, and TIG the frame back together. The stock welds are a bit below our usual output 3) custom offset triple clamps. Bring the trail back to a reasonable number and tighten things up a bit. 4) raise the bars and bring them back a bit for a bit less wieght on your wrists 5) Slipper Clutch! 6) Nemesis ECU to unleash the beast... biggest difference you can make Id venture to guess 7) a few carbon parts, airbox, etc 8) CF wheels why not, right? 9) A serious diet,... gotta admit, gettig 10k worth of Ti fasteners only to get a small box that is soooo damn light is a bit of a let down! lol Lots more, but if you want it, a bit of an iside look at building what might turn out to be a pretty cool bike.. who knowss Will Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: zvezdah1 on May 31, 2009, 03:28:48 AM Pics if the footpeg and heatshield mod??
Chris Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Oldfisti on May 31, 2009, 06:31:45 AM This thread is worthless without pics.
;) - Sounds awesome! Keep the updates coming. [thumbsup] [moto] Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: nikkimonster on May 31, 2009, 09:25:46 AM pics please......
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: RetroSBK on June 01, 2009, 09:48:07 AM Ill have an entire buidl thread following this...
The real kicker is that the bike has to be completed in 30 days... Can you say sleepless nights?? Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: flynbulldog on June 01, 2009, 11:16:10 AM So, you are willing to give up the traction control to install a Nemesis? I won't do that on mine, hopefully there will come a better solution. Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: RetroSBK on June 01, 2009, 05:33:44 PM The TC isnt that big of a deal to me... the ability to tune the bike properly is more important. My last street bike had about 40 more HP than the Streetfighter, and after about 60 trackdays on it, my right wrist is pretty decent traction control. Retro ya know?
Ok, so the first Streetfighter on the road in the US had a slight modification today... a couple of things fell off, but I just ran out of time to finish it up. (http://www.retrosbk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/streetfighternaked.jpg) Tomorrow I'll weld up a new engine stand and finish gettin her apart, gotta go pick up a couple pregnant dogin bikes mid day tho... More as it comes! Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: flanman on June 01, 2009, 05:45:36 PM cool. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: zvezdah1 on June 02, 2009, 11:07:36 AM With all the work planned on it, why didnt you just buy a base model?? I'll look forward to updates on the project!!
Chris The TC isnt that big of a deal to me... the ability to tune the bike properly is more important. My last street bike had about 40 more HP than the Streetfighter, and after about 60 trackdays on it, my right wrist is pretty decent traction control. Retro ya know? Ok, so the first Streetfighter on the road in the US had a slight modification today... a couple of things fell off, but I just ran out of time to finish it up. (http://www.retrosbk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/streetfighternaked.jpg) Tomorrow I'll weld up a new engine stand and finish gettin her apart, gotta go pick up a couple pregnant dogin bikes mid day tho... More as it comes! Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: RetroSBK on June 02, 2009, 05:51:22 PM Well, I doubt that you can buy the forks, shock and wheels for the price difference, even if we are going to redo them, the suspension alone is still worth it... I wont own any bike that doesnt have an Ohlins shock on the rear of the bike!
Made a few more pieces today, the engine stand, etc.. I still need to cut out the 28 pieces we are using the brace the frame up, but have all the templates made up.. MAN I HATE doing projects in this kind of time frame. Engine is going to Desmoto Sport in SF for the build up. Lightened crank, Pankl rods, lightweight ACG, killer pistons, CNC ported heads, bigger valves, different cams, etc.. just a mild build up ;) Looking for 180ish at the tire. I need to find a Quick Change style rear sprocket carrier... Anyone know who makes a good one that wants some good magazine and TV coverage? Will Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: NAKID on June 02, 2009, 05:58:26 PM So, why the tight timeline? Are you planning to debut it at a Bike Show?
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Fox on June 02, 2009, 07:03:28 PM So, why the tight timeline? Are you planning to debut it at a Bike Show? I can't wait to see the results. Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Spidey on June 02, 2009, 07:08:13 PM Engine is going to Desmoto Sport in SF for the build up. Lightened crank, Pankl rods, lightweight ACG, killer pistons, CNC ported heads, bigger valves, different cams, etc.. just a mild build up ;) Looking for 180ish at the tire. If Scott isn't taking pics for you as he goes through it, give a holler. I'd love love love to stop by and snap some pics of the engine build. ;D ;D Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: RetroSBK on June 02, 2009, 08:38:17 PM We will be unveiling the bike During the Lagina Seca round of MotoGP on Ducati Island. We are shooting the entire build for air on our TV show, then will be riding it to Laguna Seca with 5 other Duc's all on camera, then showing it, then riding it back...
Spidey, you know how awesome Scott is, and the killer work he does.. but the only pics we can have are the ones we take for the show.. Under contract and all... Will Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Labbedds on June 02, 2009, 09:31:17 PM paint the frame ! The gold looks kinda funky
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Fox on June 03, 2009, 07:34:13 AM paint the frame ! The gold looks kinda funky I told him the same thing. Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: dbran1949 on June 03, 2009, 08:09:51 AM We are shooting the entire build for air on our TV show Details? or a link to find out Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: zvezdah1 on June 03, 2009, 10:33:15 AM What tv show is this? What channel?
FYI, their is a recall on the ohlins front forks on some of the streetfighters. Chris We will be unveiling the bike During the Lagina Seca round of MotoGP on Ducati Island. We are shooting the entire build for air on our TV show, then will be riding it to Laguna Seca with 5 other Duc's all on camera, then showing it, then riding it back... Spidey, you know how awesome Scott is, and the killer work he does.. but the only pics we can have are the ones we take for the show.. Under contract and all... Will Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: RetroSBK on June 03, 2009, 05:07:47 PM Todays updates...
All the brackets have been cut and tacked into place.. made a few pretty decent mods that the FEA model suggested. Should make the frame a bit more stable, and make the bike a lil better suited to the extra 30hp. Cut off the rear brake res bracket as we wont use a foot actuated rear brake, cut off the brackets for the air intake covers. The noise emissions standards require the intake to be WAY chocked down, and we are fixing that too.. There may be a recall on the forks, thanks for the info, we are fitting the 25mm cartridge and redoing the shock.. If I can find the time, I will fit a linear link to the rear suspension, but its not looking good! I would be happy to give out the link, but wont do any self promotion in the forum with permission or paying to be an advertiser on here. Not my style. Will Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: zvezdah1 on June 04, 2009, 11:16:11 AM Will,
Here's the Ohlins recall and vin sequence from ducati.ms forum: """Here's the bulliten, doesn't seem like mine fits in the vin sequence... SAFETY RECALL CAMPAIGN -Subject OHLINS FRONT FORK -Models STREETFIGHTER S M.Y.’10 – 1198 S M.Y.’09 – 1098 R M.Y. ’09 -Description of the technical problem Fork bottom end machining does not comply with design specifications -Description of the technical problem diagnosis Likely cracking of the fork right-hand side fork bottom end clamp at the front wheel shaft pinch bolts -Description of the technical problem solution Fork bottom end manufactured as required by design specifications -Old/new part numbers of modified components Part numbers are unchanged 1198 S and 1098 R right-hand fork leg Streetfighter S right-hand fork leg Model from frame no. to frame no. 1198 S ZDMH704AA8B020786 ZDMH704AA9B025026 STREETFIGHTER S ZDMF100AA9B000068 ZDMF100AA9B002082 1098 R ZDMH702AB8B021458 ZDMH702AB9B024905 MODELS (only USA and CDN ) Model from frame no. to frame no. 1198 S ZDM1XBLW69B021050 ZDM1XBLW99B024296 STREETFIGHTER S ZDM11BEW6AB000055 ZDM11BEW7AB002056 1098 R ZDM1XBHW69B021543 ZDM1XBHW89B022919 Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Shift-Tech-Carbon on June 05, 2009, 06:04:09 PM RetroSBK- Nice to see you are working hard. :)
We be doing our SF as well but I got more time, Moto GP Indy [beer]. Keep us updated with some spy pictures. Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: RetroSBK on June 05, 2009, 07:49:02 PM Ahhh Very cool, cant wait to see it! Ill be there but just for the show and an autograph signing... Not to mention the races!
Will Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: RetroSBK on June 09, 2009, 06:32:51 AM 'nuther update....
Speedymoto is sendign down some of their bits, changed the bars, got soem KEWL Carbon from NexRay our of Japan... turely the best CF you can buy today, expensive, but the DO make most of the MotoGP paddock's stuff! New oil cooler, swingarm has been cut in half, the frame has been "de-tubed" and is going out to be passivated before I TIG it all back together, add some stuff, etc... REALLY hoping the wheels get here in time, although the stock forged Alum wheels are pretty decent. Still wish there was more room in the swingarm for a bigger tire. I may end up trimming it out a bit, but its just going to have to be a pretty huge section to fit a big tire (ie Dunlop) I actually think that the paint will remain totally stock on this bike, the red is sooo pretty. Desmoto has the engine, and is working it over right now.. No pics, for now you have to use your imagination. How the HELL is this thing going to be done in just 18 more days... yikes Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Triple J on June 09, 2009, 07:35:08 AM [popcorn]
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Shift-Tech-Carbon on June 11, 2009, 08:43:53 PM Retro, what size tire are you going to use? I mounted BST with 200-50 Dunlop today and it clears the swingarm very well.
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: RetroSBK on June 11, 2009, 09:03:56 PM You used the offset spacer?
We were unable to fit the 200 tire on a 6 inch wheel without rotating the swingarm back too far. As it is, we shortened the swingarm 5mm and stiffened it up a BUNCH.. We arent running the BST on this bike, but will be running a CF wheel, but not the Dymag either... World debut with this bike. So its Pirelli for now... Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: darkster on June 23, 2009, 07:05:48 AM Any Updates on this project?
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: yotogi on June 23, 2009, 07:48:18 AM This post used to say something funny, then the post it was referring to got deleted. Now I offer this up for your reading enjoyment.
[bacon] [bacon] [bacon] EOM Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: NAKID on June 23, 2009, 08:17:56 AM That's not the Streetfighter...
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Rufus120 on June 23, 2009, 08:24:49 AM Not really on subject, but I just saw some renderings of you transformer bike all transformed and she looked pretty slick. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: dbran1949 on June 23, 2009, 08:42:14 AM That's not the Streetfighter... Sorry - I thought it looked a lot like my bike, looks like an S4 Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Fox on June 24, 2009, 06:27:37 AM Any Updates on this project? I was at Will's shop yesterday to check on the progress. He just got the frame, wheels and swing arm back from powder coating. It looks great. The engine should be back from SF soon. It looks like it's going to be a mad dash to get the bike ready in time for Laguna Seca. Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: DesmoTull on June 24, 2009, 06:44:13 AM 5) Slipper Clutch! Just for my own education, you still would need a slipper with the traction control?? ??? Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Triple J on June 24, 2009, 07:43:24 AM Just for my own education, you still would need a slipper with the traction control?? ??? A slipper keeps the back wheel from locking on hard downshifts...something TC can't help with. Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: yotogi on June 24, 2009, 11:37:45 AM A slipper keeps the back wheel from locking on hard downshifts...something TC can't help with. Well, unless you wanted the computer to apply power to the rear wheel for you trying to guess your intentions. :) Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Triple J on June 24, 2009, 01:07:22 PM Well, unless you wanted the computer to apply power to the rear wheel for you trying to guess your intentions. :) That could get interesting as you're flying into the hairpin at your local track...or on your local back road! :o Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: mitt on June 24, 2009, 01:55:39 PM A slipper keeps the back wheel from locking on hard downshifts...something TC can't help with. I am pretty sure the latest gen TC can. Adding a bit of fuel, or keeping the throttle bodies open to decrease engine braking. mitt Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: yotogi on June 24, 2009, 02:00:42 PM I am pretty sure the latest gen TC can. Adding a bit of fuel, or keeping the throttle bodies open to decrease engine braking. I don't see how that would work most of the time and it seems that a slipper clutch would do a better job of it anyway. Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Triple J on June 24, 2009, 02:26:59 PM I am pretty sure the latest gen TC can. Adding a bit of fuel, or keeping the throttle bodies open to decrease engine braking. mitt Hmmm, that would be interesting...I was under the impression TC only kept you from spinning the back wheel. Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Spidey on June 24, 2009, 04:03:48 PM The MV F4-1000R has a system kinda like mitt's talkin' about. I think. I only understand how it works when I read about it. Then I promptly forget, until the next time I read about it. ;D
Here's a blurp from their website: The Magneti Marelli 5SM ECU manages the widely acknowledged EBS system (Engine Brake System) that is fitted to MV Agusta engines for controlling torque under deceleration. The concept is based on a solenoid-activated bypass valve on cylinder N° 2 intake duct. The bypass is situated downstream from the feed throttle that has a suitably shaped air intake. This device allows cylinder N°2 to produce torque even under deceleration (when the feed throttles are closed) thanks to a signal sent by the Marelli ECU. The advantage in terms of engine braking at high and medium engine speeds is self-evident. It is also very clear that the engine management system could allow more demanding riders to adjust and optimize engine braking at different engine speeds to suit their individual riding styles. Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: mitt on June 24, 2009, 04:07:50 PM I don't see how that would work most of the time and it seems that a slipper clutch would do a better job of it anyway. TC, or really the ECU, can also control engine rpm, and can help bump engine speed to gearbox speed during downshifts, possibly making a slipper clutch unneeded. mitt Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: mitt on June 24, 2009, 04:11:37 PM I don't see how that would work most of the time and it seems that a slipper clutch would do a better job of it anyway. A slipper is mechanical and only works after the fact that there was a serious mismatch in drivetrain speeds. An ECU could predict the event and compensate before the mismatch happens, thus preventing or reducing it. mitt Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: flynbulldog on June 24, 2009, 04:45:56 PM Retro, why would you want to put a bigger rear tire on it? You want it to turn-in slower?
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: yotogi on June 25, 2009, 05:38:25 AM A slipper is mechanical and only works after the fact that there was a serious mismatch in drivetrain speeds. An ECU could predict the event and compensate before the mismatch happens, thus preventing or reducing it. While I understand what you are saying, you still haven't convinced me that if you were to downshift when your bike was previously near the redline that the ECU would be able to do anything to prevent wheel lock. At that point, it would need to rev the engine past the redline to match speed I would think, something that would be bad. In this situation, a slipper would just not transfer power to the wheel. Am I somehow having a misunderstanding about how TC systems on bikes function? Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: mitt on June 25, 2009, 06:59:35 AM While I understand what you are saying, you still haven't convinced me that if you were to downshift when your bike was previously near the redline that the ECU would be able to do anything to prevent wheel lock. At that point, it would need to rev the engine past the redline to match speed I would think, something that would be bad. In this situation, a slipper would just not transfer power to the wheel. Am I somehow having a misunderstanding about how TC systems on bikes function? True, if you were at redline, the engine can't rev up anymore, and a slipper is probably the best bet. But, like the link Spidey added, some ECU's can reduce engine braking by allowing "leaks" into the cylinder chamber, which could also work, and which we will probably see more of incorporated into TC/ECU's for the street. mitt Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: yotogi on June 25, 2009, 08:29:57 AM True, if you were at redline, the engine can't rev up anymore, and a slipper is probably the best bet. But, like the link Spidey added, some ECU's can reduce engine braking by allowing "leaks" into the cylinder chamber, which could also work, and which we will probably see more of incorporated into TC/ECU's for the street. I could see a bypass valve on the cylinder working. Basically, you open that up and are running the bike with very little compression. Seems like a very complicated solution to the problem though with the necessary addition of a solenoid actuated valve. So many more parts to break and if it got stuck open, jeesh, no fun. I don't have nearly enough of an understanding of valving on engine, but does anyone make a motor with solenoid actuated valves? Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: RetroSBK on June 25, 2009, 06:32:51 PM Flyn - The bigger rear tire doesnt always equate to slower turn in. If it DOES effect turn in, you have some chassis issues to sort out. This really only applies when the chassis is well sorted. The stock SF is very conservative stock. This one is a bit closer now.
The IACS that you are talking about is not a function of TC and runs on top of the Management system. Most all the teams in GP and WSB have quit using the "auto-blip" althought some riders do use and prefer it. The IACS (Idle Air Control System) does NOT add fuel, as this would make power, and provide the exact opposite of the goal of the system, to completely eliminate engine braking. The AICS adds a it of air, either by injecting it, or by SLIGHTLY opening the throttle bodies for a second. This is designed to aid the wheel/engine back torque matching issues that can occur when using carbon/carbon brakes. This really isnt an issue with Steel brakes, as they cant provide enough power to cause these issues. ALL that being said, there really isnt a top rider in the world that bangs downshifts at redline... If you watch the races, they do a LOT of braking before they get near the downshifts, and the downshifts come in very quick bunches. Will Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: NAKID on June 26, 2009, 08:24:55 AM Yada Yada Yada, where's the pictures?!
;D Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: SikDuc on June 26, 2009, 09:46:41 AM Yada Yada Yada, where's the pictures?! +1;D Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: RetroSBK on June 26, 2009, 07:02:32 PM ROFL...
Come see it at Laguna Seca! Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Spidey on June 26, 2009, 07:05:02 PM A birdie told me you got your engine back. ;)
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: RetroSBK on June 26, 2009, 09:07:30 PM Yeah... Made Scotty do all the hard work.. I think he was a lil bit disapointed at the dungeon like setup in my shop!
I finished the exhaust today, welded up from 66 pieces of metal.. thats a hard day, let me tell you.. Scotty and Desmoto are the place, I tell ya! Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: NAKID on June 27, 2009, 12:24:51 PM ROFL... Come see it at Laguna Seca! I'm pretty much as far away from there as possible while still being in the same country... Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: RetroSBK on June 28, 2009, 05:44:47 AM Ok...
It will be in Cycle World too.... Done now, save the muffler clamp... Exhaust is made up of SOO many pieces, its stupid Anyone want a sneak preview pic? Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: yotogi on June 30, 2009, 11:11:28 AM Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Triple J on June 30, 2009, 11:33:50 AM Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: dbran1949 on June 30, 2009, 11:36:36 AM no thanks, now that I'm 60 I'm drooling too much as it is :P
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Juan on June 30, 2009, 01:34:06 PM post the pics please...!!
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: DucHead on June 30, 2009, 01:50:24 PM THIS JUST IN: THREAD IN DESPERATE NEED OF PICS! ;DTitle: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: flanman on June 30, 2009, 03:25:24 PM I bet its just a tease. Pics would be nice ;D And don't say we're going to have to wait until its all done.
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: vampire on July 01, 2009, 02:26:45 AM we should have an exclusive
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Fox on July 01, 2009, 07:34:05 AM I sawa picture of it and it looks great. I'll probably be able to check it out in person this afternoon. If I see it I'll post up my input.
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Munch on July 02, 2009, 07:39:09 AM Maybe she can tie us over...
(http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/photogallerys/_GI21232.jpg) Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Blackout on July 02, 2009, 12:00:29 PM I'd hit that!
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Speedbag on July 02, 2009, 12:35:01 PM Yeah, the lady's not bad either. ;)
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: DoubleEagle on July 04, 2009, 05:24:53 PM What's the real world RWHP on the Streetfighter (Stock ) ?
Dolph :) Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: LA on July 04, 2009, 06:33:06 PM .9 X 155 = 139.5 give or take a little. About 10 more than your kitted S4RS. But then the kit for the SF adds 8% (claimed by Ducati) to yield about 150 at the rear wheel.
If I already had a 1098R I'd just hold onto my s4RS. [thumbsup] The RS is a classic - beautiful. LA Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: DoubleEagle on July 04, 2009, 07:15:22 PM .9 X 155 = 139.5 give or take a little. About 10 more than your kitted S4RS. But then the kit for the SF adds 8% (claimed by Ducati) to yield about 150 at the rear wheel. Thanks LA for the technical info. and the heart felt advice. If I already had a 1098R I'd just hold onto my s4RS. [thumbsup] The RS is a classic - beautiful. LA Dolph :) Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: sally101 on July 06, 2009, 03:20:36 PM Soo was that matte/satin red Streetfighter on Duc Island the bike in question?
If so.. Awesome!! What kind of paint is that? Not flat, not gloss, not really satin.. Gave me some great ideas for custom paint jobs. The pink Transformer 848 was pretty cool looking too. Ultimate chick bike. Nicky Hayden 848? :-X Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: m1moto on July 06, 2009, 04:44:34 PM We need some pics
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Labbedds on July 06, 2009, 09:14:48 PM For those of you who couldn't make GP this year, enjoy, apologies RetroSBK if you were trying to keep it hush hush. Too nice of a bike to keep under wraps. It looked 1000 times more badass in person, THIS makes me want to trade in my s2r1000 for a SF. [bow_down]
(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h108/Paullabbe/IMG_2524.jpg) (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h108/Paullabbe/IMG_2525.jpg) (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h108/Paullabbe/IMG_2526.jpg) (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h108/Paullabbe/IMG_2527.jpg) (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h108/Paullabbe/IMG_2528.jpg) (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h108/Paullabbe/IMG_2529.jpg) (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h108/Paullabbe/IMG_2530.jpg) Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: kopfjäger on July 06, 2009, 09:51:29 PM Now were talking. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: vampire on July 07, 2009, 02:17:50 AM (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h108/Paullabbe/IMG_2525.jpg) nice Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: sally101 on July 07, 2009, 05:02:41 AM Those pix don't do the paint justice..
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Triple J on July 07, 2009, 06:17:50 AM Anyone have a regular side shot so we can see all the work?
It doesn't look like anything more than a SF with an exhaust, a weird Rockstart can for something (what is that for?), and a few bits of billet bling. I thought there was a LOT more to it than that though. ??? Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: asado on July 07, 2009, 06:55:05 AM Anyone have a regular side shot so we can see all the work? It doesn't look like anything more than a SF with an exhaust, a weird Rockstart can for something (what is that for?), and a few bits of billet bling. I thought there was a LOT more to it than that though. ??? From what I can see...The wheels, frame, handle bars, triple clamp have been painted. The belt cover also has been removed. Aftermarket rearsets, suede seats, levers and Ohlins top mount damper. Maybe there are some engine work but I dont know much details about that SF. Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Triple J on July 07, 2009, 07:23:02 AM From what I can see...The wheels, frame, handle bars, triple clamp have been painted. The belt cover also has been removed. Aftermarket rearsets, suede seats, levers and Ohlins top mount damper. Maybe there are some engine work but I dont know much details about that SF. Ya I saw that stuff as well. Triples look stock to me. That's all cosmetic and easy to do though (well, painting the frame is a PIA). I thought there was more to it...like cutting an re-welding the frame to change the geometry. Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Fox on July 07, 2009, 07:33:20 AM I have some good shots of it and will try to upload them this evening. I had the opportunity to be the first to ride it and all I can say is it's wicked fast. All I was thinking was ... don't dump this thing before the show on Ducati Island. I was nervous to say the least.
When Will got the stock SF I did not like it. I thought it was ugly and there were many other bikes I would prefer before this one. Too many angles, too may colors...filled with compromises. That being said, I love how the SF came out. It makes me want to run out and get one. I have never had such a dramatic change in opinion after seeing the bike. Below is a link to an article in out local paper about the build. Scott with DesmoWorks is also in the article. The article turned out to be a bit of a publicity piece so if the mods want to take the link down please do so. http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/jul/05/rebuilding-expectations/ (http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/jul/05/rebuilding-expectations/) Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: asado on July 07, 2009, 07:42:35 AM When Will got the stock SF I did not like it. I thought it was ugly and there were many other bikes I would prefer before this one. Too many angles, too may colors...filled with compromises. That being said, I love how the SF came out. It makes me want to run out and get one. I have never had such a dramatic change in opinion after seeing the bike. I have to disagree with you on the ugly comment. Maybe the "S" version with the gold wheels and gold frame (not my cup of tea either, one of the reason I chose the non S) is too much if you like the minimalist look, in which I do. For comparison, photos of my standard SF with black wheels and frame. (http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7251/sf10l.th.jpg) (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/sf10l.jpg/) (http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/39/sf5y.th.jpg) (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/sf5y.jpg/) (http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1752/sf2h.th.jpg) (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/sf2h.jpg/) (http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1471/sf8.th.jpg) (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/sf8.jpg/) (http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9880/sf6e.th.jpg) (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/sf6e.jpg/) (http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1102/sf7.th.jpg) (http://img515.imageshack.us/i/sf7.jpg/) (http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1801/sf9.th.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/sf9.jpg/) Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Fox on July 07, 2009, 07:47:21 AM We also had a stock SF to ride up to Laguna with, so I had something to compare it to for 400 miles. Personally, I am not a big fan of the appearance of the stock bike. It too was the non-S version. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: asado on July 07, 2009, 07:54:50 AM We also had a stock SF to ride up to Laguna with, so I had something to compare it to for 400 miles. Personally, I am not a big fan of the appearance of the stock bike. It too was the non-S version. Just my opinion. Not trying to be a dick but the only drastic change that I can see in the appearance (for the untrained eyes) are the exhaust, tail chop , the missing belt covers and the can of Rockstar. Handling and HP wise, I cannot comment because I dont know what was done to the motor and suspension. I've seen Motowheels and Shiftech's project SF and the changes was drastic (and expensive). Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Triple J on July 07, 2009, 08:09:44 AM Not trying to be a dick but the only drastic change that I can see in the appearance (for the untrained eyes) are the exhaust, tail chop , the missing belt covers and the can of Rockstar. Handling and HP wise, I cannot comment because I dont know what was done to the motor and suspension. +1 It doesn't look much different at all. The exhaust looks to be a HUGE improvement though. [thumbsup] More pics!!! ;D Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: RetroSBK on July 07, 2009, 08:17:54 AM ROFL.. .ok guys.. thanks.. that was JUST what I was looking for.. at a glance, you cant tell..
The frame was bolted to a 400lb jig, then cut apart. The tubes were all cleaned and then Tig'd together, and the junctions were braced. You can see the braces welded in in the pics, but you have to look. Im not dumb enough to start trying to change the steering head or other garbage people think they can do. The engine was done by Desmoto, the belt covers were not just removed, but the bosses that they mount to were machined off. The side cover machined out, Corse clutch, etc etc. The swingarm alone has more than 60 hours in it, welding, grinding, cutting and bracing. I do love all the "bolt on" comments, as there arent any bolt ons for this bike. The exhust is made in house, from 66 pieces. We had to keep the wheels and brakes stock due to time constraints. The bike is 26k lighter than stock. The whole idea with any one my bikes is that they look cool, but to the untrained eye, they look lightly modified, so thank you all very, very much. I know, I know, anyone could build a bike like this out of a garage. ROFL More than 400 hours in 3 weeks on this damn thing. The paint.. .ohhh yes, the paint is amazing. Its nice to work with the best painter in the biz, and Air Trix gets all the credit. I told him what I wanted, and he blew me away, as he always does. Michael Locke said it was the nicest bike on the Island, so I guess I can be happy with that. Few more things to go that I didnt have time for, Billet triples to get 30mm offset, higher risers on the bars, quickshifter, and maybe some wheels, but its already so fast, and changes direction SO quick, im reluctant to swap wheels. On Carmel Valley road, going 140 on the downhill, it hit a bump and stood STRAIGHT up in a huge wheelie, scarping to poopy out fo myself and the guy behind me... Im pretty happy with it, so far. Will Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: MonsterMan1036 on July 07, 2009, 08:26:16 AM Bike looks good! [thumbsup]
It's hard to see everything you have done without whole bike or detail pics. Also, is that Mark's new bike behind yours (MotoCreations)? Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: kopfjäger on July 07, 2009, 08:33:45 AM ROFL.. .ok guys.. thanks.. that was JUST what I was looking for.. at a glance, you cant tell.. The frame was bolted to a 400lb jig, then cut apart. The tubes were all cleaned and then Tig'd together, and the junctions were braced. You can see the braces welded in in the pics, but you have to look. Im not dumb enough to start trying to change the steering head or other garbage people think they can do. The engine was done by Desmoto, the belt covers were not just removed, but the bosses that they mount to were machined off. The side cover machined out, Corse clutch, etc etc. The swingarm alone has more than 60 hours in it, welding, grinding, cutting and bracing. I do love all the "bolt on" comments, as there arent any bolt ons for this bike. The exhust is made in house, from 66 pieces. We had to keep the wheels and brakes stock due to time constraints. The bike is 26k lighter than stock. The whole idea with any one my bikes is that they look cool, but to the untrained eye, they look lightly modified, so thank you all very, very much. I know, I know, anyone could build a bike like this out of a garage. ROFL More than 400 hours in 3 weeks on this damn thing. The paint.. .ohhh yes, the paint is amazing. Its nice to work with the best painter in the biz, and Air Trix gets all the credit. I told him what I wanted, and he blew me away, as he always does. Michael Locke said it was the nicest bike on the Island, so I guess I can be happy with that. Few more things to go that I didnt have time for, Billet triples to get 30mm offset, higher risers on the bars, quickshifter, and maybe some wheels, but its already so fast, and changes direction SO quick, im reluctant to swap wheels. On Carmel Valley road, going 140 on the downhill, it hit a bump and stood STRAIGHT up in a huge wheelie, scarping to poopy out fo myself and the guy behind me... Im pretty happy with it, so far. Will Wow :o Very nice bolt on work [laugh] I can't wait to see some more pics. [thumbsup] Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Fox on July 07, 2009, 08:39:40 AM Michael Locke said it was the nicest bike on the Island As I just learned this weekend Michael Locke is the president of Ducati North America. Super nice guy. Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: kopfjäger on July 07, 2009, 08:48:04 AM As I just learned this weekend Michael Locke is the president of Ducati North America. Super nice guy. You don't say. :-\ Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: hbliam on July 07, 2009, 09:39:26 AM ROFL.. .ok guys.. thanks.. that was JUST what I was looking for.. at a glance, you cant tell.. The frame was bolted to a 400lb jig, then cut apart. The tubes were all cleaned and then Tig'd together, and the junctions were braced. You can see the braces welded in in the pics, but you have to look. Im not dumb enough to start trying to change the steering head or other garbage people think they can do. The engine was done by Desmoto, the belt covers were not just removed, but the bosses that they mount to were machined off. The side cover machined out, Corse clutch, etc etc. The swingarm alone has more than 60 hours in it, welding, grinding, cutting and bracing. I do love all the "bolt on" comments, as there arent any bolt ons for this bike. The exhust is made in house, from 66 pieces. We had to keep the wheels and brakes stock due to time constraints. The bike is 26k lighter than stock. The whole idea with any one my bikes is that they look cool, but to the untrained eye, they look lightly modified, so thank you all very, very much. I know, I know, anyone could build a bike like this out of a garage. ROFL More than 400 hours in 3 weeks on this damn thing. The paint.. .ohhh yes, the paint is amazing. Its nice to work with the best painter in the biz, and Air Trix gets all the credit. I told him what I wanted, and he blew me away, as he always does. Michael Locke said it was the nicest bike on the Island, so I guess I can be happy with that. Few more things to go that I didnt have time for, Billet triples to get 30mm offset, higher risers on the bars, quickshifter, and maybe some wheels, but its already so fast, and changes direction SO quick, im reluctant to swap wheels. On Carmel Valley road, going 140 on the downhill, it hit a bump and stood STRAIGHT up in a huge wheelie, scarping to poopy out fo myself and the guy behind me... Im pretty happy with it, so far. Will My opinion: -I like the exhaust alot. Good job. -I hate the rockstar can. It's just stupid. -The zip ties look like caca, ask duckstew how to get away from using those. -This isn't a Cycle World interview, you don't have to keep pimping your suppliers. -Locke is a politician, every bike on the Island is "the nicest bike on the island". ;) Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Triple J on July 07, 2009, 09:56:10 AM ROFL.. .ok guys.. thanks.. that was JUST what I was looking for.. at a glance, you cant tell.. The frame was bolted to a 400lb jig, then cut apart. The tubes were all cleaned and then Tig'd together, and the junctions were braced. You can see the braces welded in in the pics, but you have to look. Im not dumb enough to start trying to change the steering head or other garbage people think they can do. The engine was done by Desmoto, the belt covers were not just removed, but the bosses that they mount to were machined off. The side cover machined out, Corse clutch, etc etc. The swingarm alone has more than 60 hours in it, welding, grinding, cutting and bracing. I do love all the "bolt on" comments, as there arent any bolt ons for this bike. The exhust is made in house, from 66 pieces. We had to keep the wheels and brakes stock due to time constraints. The bike is 26k lighter than stock. The whole idea with any one my bikes is that they look cool, but to the untrained eye, they look lightly modified, so thank you all very, very much. I know, I know, anyone could build a bike like this out of a garage. ROFL More than 400 hours in 3 weeks on this damn thing. The paint.. .ohhh yes, the paint is amazing. Its nice to work with the best painter in the biz, and Air Trix gets all the credit. I told him what I wanted, and he blew me away, as he always does. Michael Locke said it was the nicest bike on the Island, so I guess I can be happy with that. Few more things to go that I didnt have time for, Billet triples to get 30mm offset, higher risers on the bars, quickshifter, and maybe some wheels, but its already so fast, and changes direction SO quick, im reluctant to swap wheels. On Carmel Valley road, going 140 on the downhill, it hit a bump and stood STRAIGHT up in a huge wheelie, scarping to poopy out fo myself and the guy behind me... Im pretty happy with it, so far. Will Thanks for the explanation. I went back and looked at your original post...I had the offset triples confused with you changing the steering head angle. I also see the frame braces now. [thumbsup] What all was done to the engine? What was done to the swingarm? What kind of rearsets are those if they aren't "bolt on"? Did you make them, or adapt them for use here? What kind of exhaust was mounted, or is the can in house as well? No need to get defensive. :) I didn't see any negative comments, just curiosity. Most of us really like to see builds like this, with details of what was done. I personally find it fascinating to see what people can come up with, and see them show off their skills. :) How about a post of what was done, with pics showing it? Hell...even a regular old side shot!! [thumbsup] Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Labbedds on July 07, 2009, 10:18:21 AM rockstar can [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Rufus120 on July 07, 2009, 10:25:40 AM Amazing work there. Can't wait to see some more detailed pics of that exhaust. I'm just curious with all the hours of work put into her. With the cutting, grinding, engine work and such. Why on earth would you keep the factory mirrors!?
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: z0mb1e_DUC on July 07, 2009, 12:07:32 PM Quote With the cutting, grinding, engine work and such. Why on earth would you keep the factory mirrors!? Gotta agree. Those are the same mirrors as the 696/1100. First thing I got rid of on my 696. Ruins the lines of the bike. More pic's, please! [popcorn] Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: RetroSBK on July 07, 2009, 12:46:22 PM There will be a lot more detailed information after the Cycle World piece hits.
I kept the mirrors because they work! For the first time since 1994 and my first Duc, Stock Duc Mirrors that WORK! Yee HaW!!! Enuf was done to the engine to make it stupid... A 1198 with a system and ecu makes 172-4 rwhp, this bike is pretty close to that. Lots was done to the swinger - Braced, welded, smoothed, etc. All rearsets bolt on, so we use production pieces. Vortex sponsors us, and has for a long time, so we fit them. They are some of the best pieces on the market, even tho they arent eurotrash. The Exhaust is also from long time shop sponsor, Leo Vince. We use thier muffler, and they send me a box of tubing. I do the rest. Not being defensive, at all. We are in a unique position in the industry of being able to beuild the fastest, best performing customs out there. That also means that I have to keep some stuff under wraps for the magazines. The guys that build thier own frames, etc make cool stuff, bt they simply dont work as well as what we do, and one of our tennants is that we only IMPROVE the bikes.. .Form follows Function Will Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: asado on July 07, 2009, 01:07:31 PM I kept the mirrors because they work! For the first time since 1994 and my first Duc, Stock Duc Mirrors that WORK! Yee HaW!!! They do work but tossed mine the day i picked up my SF. Suggestion; Try the Rizoma Prototype Naked, coverage is good, plenty of adjustments, blue tinted mirrors and they look a lot better than stock. I think it will flow better on your modded SF. (http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5457/aaa7632.th.jpg) (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/aaa7632.jpg/) Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Speedbag on July 07, 2009, 01:28:14 PM -I hate the rockstar can. It's just stupid. +1 It's the only item that ruins it for me. Reminds me of the time my plastic coolant puke tank cracked at the dragstrip and I had to use a Mountain Dew bottle out of the garbage to stay in the running. :P The car got a spiffy spun aluminum tank with trick bracket immediately afterward, and this bike deserves something similar. Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: dbran1949 on July 07, 2009, 02:12:54 PM c'mon he's got to pay the bills. The bike is pretty devoid of the usual sponsor stickers
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: TAftonomos on July 07, 2009, 03:35:05 PM Looks pretty neat. Too bad I'll never get close enough to it to see the little details.
The one detail I hate.....rockstar can. OK, enough people have bagged on it. But a autozone worm clamp to secure it [bang] More details about the swingarm/pics would be awesome. You guys must have busted your ass, 400 hours in 21 days is pretty crazy... Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: LA on July 07, 2009, 04:00:25 PM What were the engine mods? And except for that does the bike perform better than the stock bike? The frame is already hell for strong and capable of over 175 HP without cutting it apart and re-welding it back together. If form follows function, how does it perform better than the factory with DP kit mods.
To a point I could care less what a bike looks like and the S models suspension may be worth all the other mod you guys did. I'd love to know if it's really that much better than stock with DP mods. The factory guys do a pretty good job. How is what you did to the swinging arm better than stock? I look forward to seeing the article in the bike mag. LA Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: dbran1949 on July 07, 2009, 04:14:11 PM I look forward to seeing the article in the bike mag. Just checked this month's, must be coming in a later editionLA Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: hbliam on July 07, 2009, 06:28:17 PM We are in a unique position in the industry of being able to beuild the fastest, best performing customs out there. Will Don't get me wrong, I like what I see but....the above statement is subjective. Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: duccarlos on July 07, 2009, 06:31:41 PM Don't get me wrong, I like what I see but....the above statement is subjective. You think? Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: RetroSBK on July 07, 2009, 07:51:18 PM The Rockstar can is a signature of ours. We used it on our 218rwhp Freddie bike, and every bike since. Trust me, we drank an ASSLOAD of rockstar to build this bike. Our supplier was out of our signature Titanium hose clamp to mount it. It will have one on it before the magazine shoot.
LA - The stock frame has never seen 175hp. the stock bike is no where near that in the real world. The stock welds are below what i consider acceptable, so they were replaced. The bike feels like its hinged in the middle so we fixed that in the frame. Whats inside the swingarm is a bit of a secret. thanks. The DP kit? you are kidding, right? We shaved more than 7lbs off the crank and flywheel, not to mention the simple porting and pistons, all you need, and then some. The biggets gains were found in the cam timing and in the intake mods, like most always. I dont quite understand your comment about the smodel suspension being worth? this is an S model, but the S model suspension, while ohlins, is far from superbike spec. The bodies and pistons were changed, and a mid valve was added. Now the suspension is pretty amazing. Im happy. Dont get me wrong, the stock bike really is pretty good, this is just my version of what they could do without having to mass produce the thing, and now having to worry about some wobbler getting on it and killing themselves. As far as the subjective statement, Yeah, its my opinion, and Freddie Spencer's, so I feel safe in quoting it. Asado, the mirrors look pretty cool... are they as wide as the Stockers? My shoulders are a bit wider than most, and tend to block out most everything.. Do you know anyone at Rizoma? PM me with that, and Id love to give them some exposure if the stuff is good. Taft - This actually wasnt that bad of a build.. A bit stressed, but the Transformers build was all hands in and more than 1600 hours in 21 days... I brought cots to the shop and got a hotel room down the street so the guys could shower. I dont think Im going to leave the stock ECU on it, I rode up with the TC off... WAY more fun that way, but killed a Pirelli in 800 miles... its DONE ;) Will Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Labbedds on July 07, 2009, 08:20:57 PM Well I think that some people are purists in that every part has to be ducati performance or something "blingy". The Rockstar can set's off the job and you have the cleanest SF i've seen to date. Great job! I do think that rizoma mirrors would complete the bike though. Paint looks awesome. Probably a hell of a lot easier to keep clean than a gloss red.
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: sally101 on July 08, 2009, 05:36:09 AM Saw a SF parked on the island with the Rizoma mirrors.. thought they looked great.. More angular like the bike itself..
(http://www.rizoma.com/IMG/Prodotti/Big/BS114B.jpg) Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: LA on July 09, 2009, 05:39:14 AM We shaved more than 7lbs off the crank and flywheel, not to mention the simple porting and pistons, all you need, and then some. The biggest gains were found in the cam timing and in the intake mods, like most always.
That's what I'm talking about, mods that actually adds to the performance of the bike. Don't get me wrong, I like an attractive bike, but for me personally, taking weight off period and especially unsprung mass and engine rotating and reciprocating mass is where is at. Looks are FAR less important to me than mods that actually add performance and function. Good on ya for what you've done there. [thumbsup] ohlins, is far from superbike spec. The bodies and pistons were changed, and a mid valve was added. Now the suspension is pretty amazing. Im happy. I'm with you on a well tuned chassis adding more to overall performance than most other mods - to include engine mods. I like my Ohlins a lot, but don't those "superbike Ohlins" forks cost about 11ty billion bucks? Like over $15K? Brad Pitt could afford em, but surly not most peeps I know. What I meant about the frame is that I thought the SF frame is the same as the 1098/1198 frame. A fully DP termi kitted otherwise stock 1198 comes with about 155 HP at the wheel. Most 4v Ducatis dyno at about .9 X claimed crank HP. The kit adds about 12-13 HP (.08%), so 165 hp at the wheel. I'd bet my otherwise worthless ass that the frame engineers made the stock frame capable of at least 25% greater HP than can be had with their stock fully kitted blue printed motor- at least. A stock R model puts out something like 165 at the wheel with street legal intake and exhaust and doesn't the R model use the same frame? Once again, good on ya for what you did frame wise. That was a lot of work - glad you got what you were looking for. Hell of a bike and somewhat of a sleeper - which I like. [thumbsup] [thumbsup] LA Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: m1moto on July 09, 2009, 05:58:04 AM Nice I like it.
Lots of hard work and effort to make it your own Personal Custom and that's all that matters. Keep up the great work Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Fox on July 09, 2009, 08:49:39 AM I just posted up more photos on my shutterfly account. Follow the link to the carnage of Laguna Seca. Higher quality photos of the streetfighter are pictures 19-30. I hope that provides a clearer pictuer of the bike.
http://share.shutterfly.com/share/received/welcome.sfly?fid=5f9c8c95b01aa10b&sid=0AZtHDZs5bt2TjQ (http://share.shutterfly.com/share/received/welcome.sfly?fid=5f9c8c95b01aa10b&sid=0AZtHDZs5bt2TjQ) Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: kopfjäger on July 09, 2009, 09:11:11 AM Thanks for the pics. Very nice. [thumbsup]
But did you have to get in every shot with the hotties? ;D Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Fox on July 09, 2009, 09:12:27 AM Unfortunatly it was not me in with the hotties...I was on the other side of the camera.
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: ghostface on July 09, 2009, 09:52:16 AM I saw that bike at Laguna and didn't realize that was the Retro SBK joint. Nice.
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: duccarlos on July 10, 2009, 08:39:52 AM Unfortunatly it was not me in with the hotties...I was on the other side of the camera. Those are nice, but where are the inappropiate for children pictures? Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: cyrus buelton on July 10, 2009, 08:42:46 AM cool bike except for the rockstar can
Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Fox on July 10, 2009, 09:35:55 AM Those are nice, but where are the inappropiate for children pictures? A guy can dream :) Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: duccarlos on July 10, 2009, 07:08:27 PM A guy can dream :) Dude, if you guys didn't get a few pictures of bare breastesses is because you weren't trying. Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: DoubleEagle on July 10, 2009, 07:24:00 PM The Rockstar can is a signature of ours. We used it on our 218rwhp Freddie bike, and every bike since. Trust me, we drank an ASSLOAD of rockstar to build this bike. Our supplier was out of our signature Titanium hose clamp to mount it. It will have one on it before the magazine shoot. I have a 4xl upper body and my solution to any mirror problem is I just raise my arm a little and look under my arm. I guess you could say I look under my arm pit. LA - The stock frame has never seen 175hp. the stock bike is no where near that in the real world. The stock welds are below what i consider acceptable, so they were replaced. The bike feels like its hinged in the middle so we fixed that in the frame. Whats inside the swingarm is a bit of a secret. thanks. The DP kit? you are kidding, right? We shaved more than 7lbs off the crank and flywheel, not to mention the simple porting and pistons, all you need, and then some. The biggets gains were found in the cam timing and in the intake mods, like most always. I dont quite understand your comment about the smodel suspension being worth? this is an S model, but the S model suspension, while ohlins, is far from superbike spec. The bodies and pistons were changed, and a mid valve was added. Now the suspension is pretty amazing. Im happy. Dont get me wrong, the stock bike really is pretty good, this is just my version of what they could do without having to mass produce the thing, and now having to worry about some wobbler getting on it and killing themselves. As far as the subjective statement, Yeah, its my opinion, and Freddie Spencer's, so I feel safe in quoting it. [Asado, the mirrors look pretty cool... are they as wide as the Stockers? My shoulders are a bit wider than most, and tend to block out most everything.. Do you know anyone at Rizoma? PM me with that, and Id love to give them some exposure if the stuff is good.] Taft - This actually wasnt that bad of a build.. A bit stressed, but the Transformers build was all hands in and more than 1600 hours in 21 days... I brought cots to the shop and got a hotel room down the street so the guys could shower. I dont think Im going to leave the stock ECU on it, I rode up with the TC off... WAY more fun that way, but killed a Pirelli in 800 miles... its DONE ;) Will Actually I raise my Elbow and look under my arm pit. Works with my my Stock " R " mirrors and my Rizoma Radial Nakeds on my S4Rs.The BMW K1300GT mirrors are wide enough that I can see normally. Dolph :) Title: Re: Street Fighter update Post by: Michael Moore on December 06, 2009, 07:11:13 AM I can't believe I missed this thread.
Retro - congrats on the Cycle World write up, and props to Scott at Desmoto (who has my bike as we speak, although sadly just for new tires.) So now that you're done, I have a couple of questions: Was it hard to relocate the exhaust so that it doesn't kick your right heel out? The stock setup is an ergonomic disaster. I threw a couple of spacers and longer bolts on, but it isn't a perfect solution. Could you talk a bit about the fueling/ECU mods? Did they get rid of the 3.5-4K flat spot? Again, congrats on a really nice bike. It's probably a good thing I don't live closer to Camarillo, or I'd be sorely tempted. |