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Title: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: coarsegoldkid on May 18, 2010, 09:36:51 AM
This week I will be installing a new Penske shock with a remote reservoir on my S2R1000.  It came with radiator clamps and small rubber interface pieces to be used against the frame.  The clamps don't get any praise from me.  However I just don't know what else to use.  Have any of you found more eye pleasing clamps for this assembly.


Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: Speeddog on May 18, 2010, 09:51:51 AM
There's someone here that was making nice billet clamps for Ohlins reservoirs, not sure if Penske is same size.

When installing your shock, make sure to check for interference between the top of the body and the rocker arm, on the right side.
Penske seems to be insistent on fitting a top eye on the shock that's too short.

Like this, and note, the top bolt isn't even in:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4066/4619692074_3cf4c9c300_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: coarsegoldkid on May 18, 2010, 11:12:29 AM
Speeddog, if there is an interference as you show how did you solve the problem?  Dremel grind the rocker arm?


Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: Speeddog on May 18, 2010, 11:16:20 AM
Well, it was a customer bike, so I wasn't comfortable with relieving the rocker.

Sent the shock back to Penske, had 'em put a longer eye on it.

Hopefully they're not still sending them out with the short eye, but I've seen a recent Penske shock that had the issue.  :(


Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: TAftonomos on May 18, 2010, 11:30:29 AM
 ;)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y54/TheoAftonomos/DUcati%20S4Rt/Ohlins%20clamp/DSC_0400.jpg)


Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: coarsegoldkid on May 18, 2010, 12:45:11 PM
This shock I ordered from TD was specifically for my S2R1000 so I hope it all fits.  They should know.  Right? I checked it and the fitting is located 90 degrees or about where the N is in PeNske in your picture.  The fitting is the same 90 degree fitting.  The top of the shock is machined differently so it maybe the correct length not to interfere with the rocker arm but it looks like the fitting will interfer with the black plastic part just to the rear of the shock.  I'm doing the swap in two days.  Fingers are crossed.


Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: Speeddog on May 18, 2010, 03:04:14 PM
Can you post a picture of the top eye of your shock?


Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: coarsegoldkid on May 18, 2010, 04:32:55 PM
Here are the pictures.
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_FOG_KUt6CzE/S_NKbkWV42I/AAAAAAAADKk/AI3Te9NTC7w/s800/IMG_0735.JPG)

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_FOG_KUt6CzE/S_NKc3unu9I/AAAAAAAADKo/eGe562Nm0ys/s800/IMG_0736.JPG)


Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: Speeddog on May 18, 2010, 05:25:23 PM
Yep, you've got the longer top eye.  [thumbsup]

Hopefully that's straightened out for good...  :-\

For reference, here's the short one:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4620725610_1c0fbf2004_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: coarsegoldkid on May 18, 2010, 06:51:13 PM
I'm still concerned about the fitting interfering with the black plastic part adjacent  to the rear of it.  It think that the fitting on mine needs to be 90 degrees to the left side as your pic shows.  Gee, I hope this goes well but I don't get a warm IZ_ feeling it will.  I'll post my findings.


Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: Speeddog on May 18, 2010, 07:30:28 PM
IIRC, I've seen pics of a Penske with the fitting on the back, like yours.
It comes *very* close to the breather tank, but doesn't hit.


Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: coarsegoldkid on May 19, 2010, 06:25:44 AM
Thanks, I'll breathe easier then. :)


Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: Cider on May 19, 2010, 10:39:23 AM
This week I will be installing a new Penske shock with a remote reservoir on my S2R1000.  It came with radiator clamps and small rubber interface pieces to be used against the frame.  The clamps don't get any praise from me.  However I just don't know what else to use.  Have any of you found more eye pleasing clamps for this assembly.

I have a Penske on my SV, and I didn't like the hose clamps either, so I found some gigantic black zipties at Home Depot that look better, at least to my eye.  Many miles and a few trackdays later, and it's still solid.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3479/3260817547_9cab0e2e64_o.jpg)



Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: TAftonomos on May 19, 2010, 10:40:52 AM
Not bad, but he's going to enjoy the billet good-ness in 2 days :D  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: coarsegoldkid on May 20, 2010, 04:51:50 PM
I installed the Penske today.  It went fairly well.  The taller top eye did not interfer with anything. The added length on the top of the shock translated to about 5mm longer overall in shock length compared to the stocker.  The hydraulic fitting could have been angled down some 80 degrees or the hydraulic line a little shorter.  I angled it a few degrees and wanted more but was afraid of creating a problem.  The hydraulic line has a sharp bend.  Can't be helped.
It was a busy day.  I also re filled the front forks with the proper amount of oil.
Re-did the sag.  Not entirely happy with the results.  I can't get proper free sag after adjusting for proper rider sag.
Looking forward to the reservoir mounts.


Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: Speeddog on May 20, 2010, 06:40:36 PM
How much do you weigh and what rate spring did you get?


Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: coarsegoldkid on May 21, 2010, 05:37:54 AM
I weigh some where around 180 lbs in street clothes.   Scales can be inaccurate.  Anyway the TD fork kit and Penske were ordered for my "180" lbs.  
Spring rates: I can't tell, wish I had looked at the stamp on the spring before install yesterday because I lost the note I wrote when I first installed them two months ago.  The Penske spring is a Hyperco 7x650 whatever that means, colored dark purple. TD supplied a suggested a hand written baseline on the AK-20 kit but the spring rate was not among the information.  They have been helpful whenever I asked a question, I'll shoot them a inquiry about delivered spring rates.
Later today I'll take the bike for a shake down ride.


Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: Speeddog on May 21, 2010, 07:19:01 AM
Hyperco 7x650 means it's 7 inches long and 650 lb/in rate.

What's your free sag/rider sag dilemma?


Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: coarsegoldkid on May 22, 2010, 08:15:35 AM
Speeddog, I'm not sure if my numbers are going to be valid.  I only did this with the help of one other person.  All text on the subject says to have two helpers.  I'll do them again before passing anymore judgment on the results.  Premilinary rider sag I did get was within spec but not a valid number.  I have plenty of preload adjustment remaining on forks and shocks.

There is a very bumpy, frequently patched and in some cases has missing pieces of pavement, including a smooth long straight on an otherwise twisty 30 miles of fun road near where I live.  I use it as a test bed.  I took the bike out for shake down and made a few compression and rebound adjustments in the minus direction from baseline. The bike was transformed from a bucking, jarring bronco to a road holding compliant machine.  Even the throttle precision was improved because I was moving around less on top of the bike.  Overall I'm pleased and will get a bigger smile as I work with it over time.
When I do get a couple of assistants to re-check the sag.  The way I have come to understand it the free sag isn't so important as is the total sag with rider/gear on bike sag.  IMHO as long as that number is 35mm on forks(TD spec) and 30mm on the shock(TD spec)all is good in the world of sag.  Penske specs shock sag range at 22mm-28mm.  Where I end up is where it feels the best.
Thanks for checking up on me.


Title: Re: Remote reservoir mounting
Post by: coarsegoldkid on May 24, 2010, 08:26:51 AM
Here is my new reservoir mounting.
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_FOG_KUt6CzE/S_rCmUJjfSI/AAAAAAAADNI/fNiGAzuZ_5I/s800/IMG_0738.JPG)


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