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Cuz I sure am not!  I rode it up and down 5 times tonight.  Damn I love that road  [moto] 

im ready to hit again!!!

after being left behind waiting for the denver to ride, im ready for my taste  [beer]

So... did you take the Lexus or the TT ? [roll]  Cause last time we talked the mean machine was still at the moto hospital. 

LOL no Lexus or TT for me my friend...  I have a pick up truck for pickin up sick bikes and working 1098 (albeit one that pops can crackles pretty loudly on decel).  [laugh]

I promised my monster a minimum of one crest ride per week (and no I'm not talking about Pam) ;D
When I bought my bike last year I was wondering what I would do if that ride would ever become boring or might loose it's draw. Well, everytime I come back from a spirited ride I feel rejuvinated and remember why I bought this bike in the first place.
Sure is hell on tires though [moto]

Hit it again last night!!  NO ONE on the road.   [moto]

Anyone up for a 8:00 A.M Crest ride tomorrow?

hows about 9am? I want to take the 1098. call me Karl if you want to meet over here

Sorry we didn't hook up..  had to be back at a certain time.
Enjoy your trip and don't forget your camera  ;D

hope u guys had fun! sorry couldn't make it! was hurting way to bad!  :-\

I was at the coffee shop I watched you drive by!

 [bacon] OK DUCMOUSE I WILL RIDE UP THE CREST AT 7AM SOME MORNING JUST TO FOLLOW AND MAKE SURE YOU DONT HIT A DEER AT THAT HOUR. THEN A GRATUITOUS PHOTO WITH A CLOCK TO MARK THE HOUR AT THE TOP OF THE CREST [bacon]
WELL NEED SOME BACON BEFORE WE GO UP..COFFEE AFTERWARDS ...AND ALSO THINK ABOUT STARTING AT 630 TO REALLY MAKE IT BACK IN TIME

sounds good to me....get up when the sun does...go get  [bacon] then hit the crest, come down for  [coffee]and then i can hit work   ;D

Rumor has it that there is a crest ride at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow morning departing from HP's pad and
culminating in a stop at the coffee shop upon completion [moto]

Thats it B here!
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I have another phone interview at 9am...ill look for you all on the crest or at the shop

It was great to see and ride with you folks again!
I hope the 999 rider is going to be ok, though they did say he couldn't feel anything.

Great rides everyone...to bad it had to end with one of the riders going down :'(
Hope he turns out alright.

The paramedics pulled me over to let his friends know that had gone ahead.
His name is Dave if anyone knows him.

If anyone knows him I'd appreciate if you could let me know how he is doing or which hospital he is staying at.
Going through a similar experience recently I have learned to appreciate my fellow riders support and concern and would like to extent the same to a fellow rider.   

Well I'm so glad to be the bearer of good news:
It took us awhile to catch up with the person that went down on the crest today.
His name is Dave Turner and he will be released from the hospital today.
I talked to him and his wife at the hospital and other than some soft tissue shoulder injuries he will be ok ( does that sound familiar  :o). He hit the red gravel stuff which caused the loss of control.
I'm so happy to see this beautiful weekend ended ok after all.

 [thumbsup] good news, never like reading that stuff.  :-\

I'm for sure glad he will be ok.
And I was feeling a little guilty for being the slow guy today.
The only twisties we have on this side of town are the politicians so I don't get to practice.
One good part about being the slow guy is I watch the lines you all take, and you're not all the same, an see quite clearly what I'm doing that slows me down in the corners and it's not my speed as much because I was kind of keeping up.
So I guess like Dave on the 999 today probably was more about cutting the right line for his speed or was it just going too fast?

Hey Doug
There is nothing wrong with sitting back and watching folks while learning from their mistakes versus making them yourself or learning from their skills  [thumbsup]
Enjoyed getting to know you and welcome back [thumbsup]

im soooo sick of the crest that it was so horrible to ride it this morning........

and im sure it will be just as bad when i get off work too..

anyone wana join?!?!

That kind of misery is tempting.
What time?

Glad to hear he is ok.  How bad is the shoulder?  How did you track him down?

I cant quite figure how he hit red gravel unless he was already on the very edge of the road.  The road seemed damn clear to me.  too fast maybe.

i was thinkin around 6...im later person today....


ditto..... i saw his bike but never payed attention to see if it was banged up...i was thinking it was that family with the kids, cause i saw then on the side of the road :-\

The ambulance service told us where they dropped him off.
He didn't give me any specifics about the extend of the shoulder injury but made it sound like it was
nothing serious.
Hitting the red stuff would mean that he got to close to the edge but he did mention he wasn't going fast at all. 

I would really like to ride the Crest road again tonight but have a bike wire harness I had better get done.

I'd love to but you wore me out this weekend ;D

Today Karl and I ventured thru the fog to THE CREST! Great ride Zaster!
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Did the fog run myself.. but it was 2 years ago... Last 3 miles were quite tricky with 50 foot visibility.. fun fun fun!   ;D

 [clap]  Coolah!  Great pics, you guys!   Looks like it was a good time.  Ratfink, good luck on your tune-up and custom exhaust fab.  I couldn't believe how much the stock cans weighed on the 695 either.  Unbelievable. 

I did the Jemez loop on Friday afternoon.  It was a beautiful day for it.  The trees were beautiful.

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Damn Bonfy! That's a pretty sharp bike considering it's salvage, you'd never even know.  [laugh]  :-* Seriously looks good.  [thumbsup]

You just got to know the right people.  Let me know if you ever want me to hook it up.   [laugh] [laugh] 

LOLz!!!

Today Karl and I ventured thru the fog to THE CREST! Great ride Zaster!

We all know that the riding season is coming to an end soon. :-[
Glad we didn't let this opportunity slip away [moto]
Nice cornering BTW HP [thumbsup]

Lookin good gang!  Sucks that my weekends have been spent workin out of state lately.  sigh.  [bang]

Those are some of the greatest pics ever !   But with that being said. This has turned into the saddest damn thread ever.   :'( 
 Dusty & I thought we may need a therapist.....  until, we realized the season never ends here.  I talked to the folks at the track last week, and they said starting the last week in Oct. we can come out pretty much any time & ride. We just need a head count in advance.  as most of you know the prices with or without EMT are very reasonable,and during the winter the sessions are much longer.   PJ & I went out for a bicycle ride the other day and talked about doing a few mid day track rides through the winter.  Also, he had to reschedule his customer track day due to rain last weekend.  Call the shop for details. 323-6700.


See ya down the road
     

well looks like ours riding season on the crest is done....

looks like now we need to strap on teh camelback and grab out boards and shred it  [evil]

huh?  supposed to be 70 on thursday...lunch run!

Lets Go! I took my mirrors off, now I can see around those turns!!!

We're in !!!

That also gets rid of those pesky blue and red lights flashing in your eyes. [cheeky] [popcorn]

Anyone up for a NMMR group outing?
I really enjoyed our last track practice [moto]

How was it....pictures?

I think Skinner started the whole thing by saying "in the 70s on thursday" ......well...thats tomorrow....whos in?, what time? I can take a 2 hour break during the day but when?

12ish?  anyone anyone?

hunky and i hit the crest today.   Up to 1/2 mile past the ski area it is PERFECT.  After that, its really really really bad....tons of sand and water (like April/March conditions).

Now the dirt duc aint soundin' so bad.    [clap]





 [roll]

exactly!  it was down right scary.  Haven't seen that much sand in a while

Sounds like you need to invest in a street sweeper to look out for your fellow riders  [thumbsup]
You are still our jefe or are you?!?  ;D

jefes delegate.  Thanks for stepping up to the plate for the team Zaster! 

Yeah, hi, um did you get the memo on that?  If you could please have that swept and good to go by noon today that would be great.  oh, and we need you to come in this weekend.  mmmm ok?

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Awww what the hell... you get the crest road cleaned off while my ride is in a zillion pieces.. thats just not cool man.

Keep in mind as our jefe you have to provide the equipment :D
I'll be happy to ride it if it cleans the road, comes on two wheels and hauls ass  [moto]

I could attach a couple of pushbrooms to the front of my cargo van  ???

 [coffee]

Let's check it out tomorrow morning with a stop at the cafe.. [coffee]
I could be ready by 10A.M. [moto]

Lets do 10!

Was good to see DucMouse and HP at the cafe [thumbsup]
What a beautiful day for riding [moto]
After I adjusted my clutch I went for another ride..guess I'll be sore tomorrow, but
it will be a good sore ;D

sat kawboy, Godec and I went up the crest to check it out...

we just went to the ski base, but of course it wasnt in the grestest condition.....the snow is finally meltingnotanymorewithyesterdaysweather [roll] but lots of run off and lots-o-dirt....

another month and we should be good to go  [moto] [laugh]

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Well about @230 today i took off for Madrid but while i stopped for gas at the Shell station in Cedar Crest my eyes wandered across the street to the crest road. I thought "why not" and next thing I knew I was at thetop of the crest about 39 degrees and 40 mile an hour winds. i almost fell over several times up there but on the way up the road was fairly clear and there was no ice. Just on the center line for the most part was the only sand. I had the best time, then back into town, N on paseo, E on Academy to I25 then N to Placitas then a night time ride home under the moon and venus! Whoohoo about 140 miles!

Sweeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!  And that's a damned good picture of you (the third one).   [thumbsup]  I always told Bonfy I thought you were a sexy man!  Watch out!  Lock the windows, the roadrunner and I may make a stop through on the next trip to Arizona!

Went up the crest yesterday with my son, damn the lower half was FINE! I thought the top was Fair at best. A lot of sand in the turns.....we had a picnic at the top!
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Awesome, guys!  Can't wait to ride it with you.   [moto]

I went up this weekend too!  True about the sand in the turns, although I would say I am running at about 70% of normal.  Mostly clean, but too hard to pick good lines and going down was much less confidence inspiring.  LOTS of grit in the outside turns.  It'll be clearing up soon but, damn, it's hard to stay off the throttle!

im thinking that the Plumber and I may hit the crest thursday after work  [moto]

anyone is welcome to join  [thumbsup]

What time is "after work"?

she works her day job till 5 and the night job on central around 10.  :P 8)

probably around 6 [thumbsup]


only to make sure my daddy has his greens :-*

I'll try to jump in Thursday if I'm back from Phoenix/Pittsburgh, CA by then.  Our plans are indeterminate, so I'm not sure when I'll be back in the AO.

Have fun if I miss out.

i think THP and I may hit 14 and the crest this eve, if anyone wants to join shot me a txt  [moto]

When are you coming home... :)   I wont hit the garage if you plan on coming home early... Im damn tired, the sun kicked my arsss..

And where is my supper?! 

oh i gave him a special dinner al'ight  ;D



so anyone down for a ride this eve and maybe bike nite?!?!

I'm in!

I'm in too and hopefully Kingbaby can make it if he isn't too busy.  [moto]  [moto]

ok lets meet at PJs at around 5  [moto]

Is it Garduno's on the Green again?

yeppers...

i dont know if its a full moon tonite...it would be perfect to get shoot of it ocming over the crest...it was spankin last time ;D

I don't know if I can be at PJ's by 5:00, but I'll see what I can do.  If nothing else, maybe I can meet you guys at GotG.

sounds coolio...

According to my calendar, full moon is tomorrow. Might be nice to get some group piccies with a nearly full moon tonight anyway .

just what i was thinking......

unless david is busy.....maybe i can get him tommorow....

 [bow_down]david [bow_down]

Although I'm not "sick of the crest" it sure as heck does still scare the crap out of me. I've been up it 3 times since it ate my old bike (and spit me back out) and I just can't get comfortable Up there. Bottom half is ok but that top half I just can't get through. I'm all slow and shakey and unstable as can be... And in typical Ducati fashion... My bike is really stable at high speeds. What indeed does one do?  Oh well maybe after a few more rides up I'll get better with it. Or... Maybe I'll just stick to the track which I so desperately want to go back to!  Dang slow economy.

Dont push yourself.  If you get up there and dont feel good about, turn around...spend some time on the lower half and enjoy it.  That is what riding is all about.

ok guys im having problems...

when i rode up with dusty and godec i had such a horrible run....nomally im really smooth and have some decent lines.... but for some reason i paniced and was doing maybe 30 at my best, ON THE CREST 30!! my pride was so hurt it was unbelievable to me...

well as much thinking and whatnot i have been doing i came to a couple of conclusions..

#1 i have been riding in town so much i forgot how to take a corner. I was thinking along the lines of target fixation :-\ i dont know why im doing this, i know better..but i seem to catch myselkf doing that even turning on a street in town...looking at my front tire....ya i know i have a bigger bike and i feel myself locking up and ya  :-\ not good end results... this makes feel like horrible, talk about ur pride being shattered. like starting from the begining :'(

#2 cause i have been  more sober then ever ebefore....my typical day would consist of having 2 beers or pills in my system(consistantly), of course in my mind it helped me relax and not be so tense. ya silly thought but to me it makes sense to me! now i feel like i cant function to what i normally did....

#3 cause i have just plain forgot how to ride :'( which is silly but with my memory probably totally possible [bang]

i honestly dont know what to do but ride it out my system or something..or drink a beer and calm the nerves...

help  :-\

 i mean THP has his thoughts...but he has never seen me ride before, and doesnt know where im coming from. i thought i was good and decent and held my own....but god damn..

its likes i lost my mojo :o

(Thinking) Hmmm maybe I should try a shot or two before I go up next time..  I try to stay away from the pills..  ;D  I've never ridden any less than 100% sober so I really wouldnt be able to make that comparison, but I can see how it would affect the confidence levels.  I know what you mean about it killing all the flow and making you question everything about your riding.  It sucks.  I'm with DDGM, Stick with what you're comfortable with and then work your way back into the scary shite.  Thats more or less how I'm gonna do it.   Evil Evil Crest road.

Track time might help...  but in the mean time, just take your time and go over the basics (looking through the turn, counter steering, weight shifting).

Maybe a little time in a big ole parking lot working on the turns too?  or follow one of the good riders in the group for a while to get back into the groove of choosing a line.

hang in there!

ya thx....i was still on me  pain meds and getting use to a bigger bike...so ya those pills gave me courage [laugh]


thx babe! Kingbaby need ya asap...can i ride cupcake with up the crest a couple of times?!?!  [bow_down] 

maybe u can jump start my mojo?!?!

DucMouse,
I went up today and felt pretty rusty...and I had rides where I thought I was totally out of sink.
There are a lot of steps in quick succession if one wants to ride the Crest at a good pace and if you are
out of rhythm then it feels ugly.
Revisit all the steps you go through when riding Crest type roads and make sure you do all of them correctly.

I don't know for sure, Mouse, but I think everyone who rides longer than a few months goes through this at least once to some degree....some more severely than others.  I'll relate a personal story and a bit of advice, both of which you may feel free to disregard at your leisure.

The last time I wadded a bike hard was in 2003 at Barber Motorsports Park near Birmingham, AL in turn two.  It's a 180° right hander than starts in the trough of a little gully, then goes straight up the hill as it begins to turn right and apexes on the side of that hill and begins going back down into the trough.  I had ridden most of a day and was clipping along pretty well when I felt the front begin to slide a little more than I was comfortable with just past the apex of the turn.  Experience kicked in and told me that if the front was moving that I had overloaded the front wheel (easy to do with my frame, if you can imagine that :) ) and that I should increase my throttle to compensate.  As I wicked the throttle the slide became a tuck and off I went.

The accident absolutely killed my Supersport and left me hurting pretty badly, too.  I analyzed the accident and decided that what had happened was that the front had actually gone light at the apex when the hill "crested", and that my natural response to unload the overstressed front actually further lightened an already light wheel and precipitated the crash.  Since then I've had a few other acquaintances do the same thing in the same turn and they reached the same conclusion.....it's a spot that's contrary to normal motorcycling experience.

I bring this up because it was one of those experiences that REALLY shook my confidence.  I had done what 20 years of riding experience had dictated and I still ended up on my head.  I thought, I rationalized, I talked to friends, and I very nearly stopped riding because the outright collapse of my confidence took away my enjoyment of motorcycling for a period of about two years.  I avoided riding with my normal group because I knew they'd ride faster than I was comfortable riding (all of us were active or former racers and our street rides got pretty aggressive sometimes away from traffic).  I started going to classes (and eventually earned my MBA, so I guess the accident didn't come to naught) because I knew it would give me an excuse to stay out of the garage and off of the bike.

Eventually, I began to miss the adrenaline rush that comes with the perfect apex, and I eased back into riding again.  I visited the track at every opportunity to reinforce good habits, and to get that reinforcement in the safest environment I could.  I'd like to say some sort of bravery or something led me back to riding, but truth is I realized I love it and that was enough to put me back on track!

Now for the advice.  If you KNOW you want to ride, and you want to ride better, there are two simple ways to do that.  First, ride more.   There is no substitute for saddle time on a bike when it comes to developing skills and confidence.  Second, get good instruction.  I can tell you from experience that there are some things you SHOULD do on a motorcycle that you will never discover by yourself.  Body posotion is difficult to analyze when you're riding....it's easier if someone who knows what's happening tells you what you're doing poorly.  Countersteering is counterintuitive, and you do it whether you realize it or not, but it is important to understand it in critical situations where judgement takes over from muscle memory.  Braking is as much art and feel as it is brake pads and rotors, so having someone teach you how to do it properly is a good idea.  Also, having someone who rides well analyze your lines and show you where you're choosing them poorly and where you're choosing them well helps your riding technique greatly.  There are lots of things a good instructor can show you, and I can't mention all of them here.

I don't know who teaches classes out here, but it'd be worth a little investigation to find out.  I'm almost sure you could get decent instruction at Thunderbird in Phoenix, for instance, but I don't know what's offered in Albuquerque or Demming.  Roadracing World does an annual Track Day issue that shows who's teaching at what tracks, so you could look at that.  Also, there are some fixed schools if you want classes from a specific instructor.  For instance, Kevin Schwantz (former 500cc GP Champion....we call that series MotoGP now) teaches classes at Barber.  Others who teach lots of classes are Reg Pridmore, Jason Pridmore, Keith Code, Ed Bargy, Doug Pollen, and a host of others.  Also, many plain old trackdays offer individual or group instruction to a lesser degree, and are much less expensive.  I haven't been on track out here, but back east you could get into nearly any track day you wanted for a couple of hundred dollars.....and sometimes for much less at smaller tracks like Talledega Grand Prix or Carolina Motorsports Park.

So I guess what I'm saying is "get out there and ride".  Ride YOUR pace.  Hold your line.

Another 2 cents,

Cloner

In my opinion you just need to relax and get some good time in up there.  Just solid quality time with the mountain.  It has been a while since we have been riding that road and to be fair it still isn't in perfect condition.  I know you want to be back in the same spot you were but that isn't being realistic.  Why do you think that all the pro athletes have spring training and things like that?  Plus when I am riding up there even if I am feeling good if I see a large spot of sand or rock in the road or whatever the case may be, it makes me a little apprehensive and then I notice it is easier to make a mistake and shake my confidence.  Give it some time girl....we have all summer!!! [moto]

Man, I really relate to this part of Cloner's post.  My two big off's happened in traffic and it still is with me every time I'm on my bike, in traffic or not.  I, also, had a mini-wad on the Crest which DucMouse and HP were present for.  All these within a year and a half.  It hasn't occurred to me yet to quit riding even though people who don't understand have suggested it.  But it has diminished the all-out abandon with which I used to approach a ride.  I am pretty careful who I ride with now because I know I'm not going to be going balls-out like I used to, my body and mind just won't allow it, and like you, DucMouse, it hurts my pride not to be the fast girl anymore.  I know it is saddle time though, that helps for me.  I just ride by myself all the time, not trying to impress anyone or keep up.  I practice my lines and corners and sometimes I go at an okay clip, other times, ridiculously cautious.  It's been less than a year since my last down and most of that winter months so I have a lot of confidence building to do.  Best of all though, I have learned a lot of respect for my bike.  Small though it may be, it has the power to buck me off in a second.  I hope that respect and learning how unpredictable traffic can be, will keep me off the pavement for a while. 

You know it!  but, you also know that I agree with "ass in the saddle" & good old fashion conversation about "what to do" is key.
Let me know when.

As far as Mojo goes, you have more than the rest of us combined.  Beeeeeehave.

my rhythum was outta wack...it was like me doing my nipple dance but one hand rubbing the middle of my back and the other hand rubbing my knee [laugh]


thx that is a nice write up [thumbsup] when i think about it i learned some bad habits while riding in town and straight aways and now i guess i just having problems getting passed them....such as the one keith is on me about :-\ [laugh] now i have a problem with wanting to keep my legs up in the corner and "remember mouse just throw the knee not the whole leg, im not a motogp rider" [laugh]


i just wana have less chicken strips then the squrriels  :P but i dont need no stinky training im a champ already, its in my blood [laugh] jk

thx for the imput godec

sometimes i just have no patients i guess....


i mean there is so few of us girlies...i dont have to be in the front, i just wana be in the middles...but i know we never have that problem with group...we all know our limits of riding and if someone wants to go fast they can pass or we can toddle along just ride [moto] we all seem to take turns in different positions....but i like to be able to keep up when need be!- i mean when i rode with the denver crew( and we know how some of them ride) i knew mt limits and rode my pace and they waited for me( cause i didnt know there mt roads well and i wasnt going to risk anything)
it was a wake up call riding and realizing i have a big boy bike and now i just have to get back into the swing of using that throttle in the areas of the corners... i mean of course when i first got that bike and i always rode up the crest in the morning before work by myself and i was getting use to it....i just never realized being off the corner would do this to me [laugh] now its like i have to relearn...which i find very nice! cause its a whole new bike [beer]


for me im a physical learner...so riding cupcake seems to help me alot...and riding with ya last time i learned i can lean that far over on my right [laugh]

thx!!! [evil] mojo is important [laugh]

Not exactly sure what that means.  BUT DON'T DO IT...   whatever it is   [laugh]

I keep my knees up too.... but I tend to ride in denim and getting a knee down would be a badddddd thing. Of course riding in denim isn't the best idea either.

Same problem with Denim, though I'm hunting for the outer knee braces I have seen some riders wear...It may be worth an investment!!! One knee surgery (soccer) has added about 30 more years to its age...:)

I think where that started was me telling you one day to let the bike work for you, dont be so static, frozen ya know? I think hanging off the bike for no reason is silly, but letting it work "float" under you gives better feel for the road, giving you that smooth transition in the corners .
 You (mouse) being so small will sometimes have to put more umph into it than others might.

You're gonna' be great !    Hell, you already are.

I dunno, Scottish.  I ride in denim if I know I'm not going to do anything that imparts a high liklihood of sliding along asphalt.  I ALWAYS wear a helmet, gloves, boots, a jacket, and at least a pair of denim pants when I ride.  When I wanna go fast I wear a one piece leather.  I don't bother to "hang off" unless I really wanna go fast (some say that imparts bad habits...that you ride under stress like you ride when you're comfortable...but I think I've ridden enough at different paces that I'm comfortable either way) but I do make it a point to transfer weight (which I unfortunately have plenty of in my old age) to the inside peg, and shift my head and shoulders to the inside as well, most of the time.

I guess after a few years of racing and having a feel for what fast really is, it seem poseurish to hang off at street speeds.  Nothing looks more lame than a kid in shorts (no helmet or shirt, of course) riding a new literbike with 2" chicken strips hanging off of his bike at 30 mph in a 90 mph turn, clutching and shifting like mad cause he wants his bike to be "on the pipe".  He thinks he's flying, and I hope he's having fun, but I find it kinda funny inside.  Is that elitist?

Besides, the  [leo] will jerk the guy hanging off before he gets us "Hailwooders", cause he's going so much faster!!  [roll]


I have to say, though, after riding just a few miles with a few of this club's members, I was pretty impressed.  I rode in the back to see who I was riding with, and everybody held his (or her) line pretty well, and nobody got spooked.  We rode at a very modest pace (which I was gonna do anyway because I was wearing denim) and I don't believe I observed a single illegal act the whole time.  That's quite a departure from my old riding group, who prided themselves on safe but rude passes (the rider can see where he's going, so it's safe, but he passes on a double yellow at full throttle), high speed antics (what I'd call a 90% pace on the street...which is too much, but we did it anyway), and other anti-social behavior (wheelies....stoppies...etc.  Yes, that's really me in my avatar).  Most of those guys were older, and all but a couple were active or former roadracers, but there was definitely too much testosterone stuffed into those leathers!  It's good to hang with some slightly more responsible, but still socially "enlightened" (read "crude") Ducatisti.

I feel like a speedaholic at a Speed Adicts Anonymous meeting.  "Hi.  My name's Scott and I'm an adict."

putting my legs down to early before stopping....or just hanging them off  [bang] [laugh]



i was always thinking i would have to lean over a little...throw my weight around better....unless i start juicin and  [evil] [laugh]

thx for the vote of confidence  [thumbsup]

Ah, I get it now, and yes thats goofy.  I noticed last time we went out you weren't puting your feet down 50yrds. before a stoplight.  [thumbsup]

You have to be clearer damnit. 

I will say you did just hear the same thing two different versions from cloner & me, which is cool.  WE AGREED !  [clap]

You did go from "I rode the Crest, & I sucked"  to, "I ride like a dork in town"    I don't think we knew you started writing a new chapter.   Me was lost  :P

sorry! my brain is not functioning very well...just tired and STILL IN SHOCK!!!  [bow_down] [bow_down] [bow_down] [bow_down] 8) [evil] [evil] [evil] [bow_down] [bow_down]

need to find video somewhere so i can relive that moment again [laugh]

Hi, My name is Godec and I'm an addict.

was thinking of making a run tonite with the man....

i think i can put my competitive pride aside, cause ya!!! and ride!!! :-\

Anyway.....so i was in cycle gear today talking to one of the main guys there and he said the park service has raised enough money to put in speed bumps. including on the curves. huh.....hmmmmmph........grrrrrrrrrr WTF

As long as we know where they are, we can use them to catch air.  What a drag!  Another example of The Man holding us down.

Not an issue for me since I ride very slow and cautious on that stretch of road anyway [laugh] ;D
Just wonder how the bicycle riders feel about this, especially going downhill ???
Sounds like some lobbying might be in order [thumbsup] This should come from the bicycle
crowd and the bike folks should be the support staff [evil]

pfffft...   one days rental of a jack hammer and the speed bumps become a non issue

I guess the national parks are for everybody....except scofflaws like me, huh?

I wonder if they'll reconsider this after the first few accidents attributed to these speed bumps and their accompanying lawsuits? [bang]

just what i was thinking... cause u know the bicyclists will not like this...

i like DDGM idea tho....

or since all the snow and freezoing tempos up there...

anyone wana ski/snowbaord down  [evil]

Ya know....back to the original question posed by the title of this thread.....HELLS NO!!!!  

Right now I'm missing the Crest desperately.  

I NEED to twist the throttle and tilt the horizon.  

I LONG to hear 9,000 tiny explosions per minute emanate from the tailpipes of a Ducati twin.  

I PINE to see freshly wrinkled rubber hanging from the edge of my Pirelli Diablo Rossos.  

(This is the part of the post where the dirty bastids amongst you will notice that the capitalized bits above express some subliminal desire for Kingbaby's attentions .....WRONG!!!!!  Kingbaby doesn't sport any of that stuff!   ;D)

I ACHE to breathe in the scent of cooked rubber mingling with good, fresh coffee.

(Man...I just keep dropping bait for you dirty bastages, don't I?) 

I NEED a 1098R.....wait....let's not get carried away, here.  I WANT a 1098R.  There.  That's better.

I MISS SUMMER.   :'(

Given the snow dumped on my other home in NY Friday and Saturday, and the fact that I've been on my Monster almost every day since I got back to ABQ, I am looking forward to being back in April and renewing my relationship with the Crest.

Here you go:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160390031315&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:MOTORS:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160390031315&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:MOTORS:1123)

Hubba hubba!   :o

I like the 2010 Corse edition mo bettah....  less flash and more sex

John,
This is what you need if you want to ride the Crest in the very near future:
Krasse fahrt im winter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q_kA-Aj5Vo#normal)

sweeeeet!!!!

My copilot and godson Alex from Tucson said no three times: ;D
Alex and Karl Crest Road (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MOB8WNWsw18#)

YES I AM OFFICIALLY SICK FOR THE CREST!
MAYBE JUST MAYBE I WILL BE THERE SUNDAY
BUT FOR SURE MONDAY WHEN NO ONE IS AROUND! [bacon] [bacon] [bow_down] [bow_down]

just still be on alert the cops are out in force now....

I ran up the crest twice today; once on my supersport and once on the Panigale. Very sweet bike! Definitely not sick of the crest!

(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae42/axelwik/0720121136.jpg)

[roll] [evil] Did I get this right!? You added the BEAST (Panigale) to your stable? You have a Panigale that will come to Ouray...& When it does...we get to  [drool] and  [Dolph] :P [thumbsup]

I wish... it was a test ride. PJ's has a loaner now. Next year! (Maybe)

Well, on that note, lets discuss the Panigale on a  [beer] @ Ouray!

That sounds great! [thumbsup]

OK.  Yesterday day I officially became sick of the Crest Road and street bikes on the same day.  Simply for passing a deputy sitting on the side of the road at the bottom of the hill...way before Doc Long.....at 55 in what was a 45 but is now a 35 I got a few tickets.  He didn't pull out or light up, but he pulled into the turnout up top and cited me for 55 in a 35, careless driving (purely subjective...no minimum standard required), no insurance (though I have insurance and volunteered to have Ashley bring a card), and passing on a double yellow....which never happened.  He claimed someone flagged him down earlier and told him we passed....the cars we passed either pulled right or were in double lanes.   He claimed a Ranger, who was sitting in the pullout when we pulled in, is willing to perjure himself and swear out a statement that he witnessed this pass....so our trustworthy Deputy is willing to suborn perjury while our faithful Ranger is willing to commit perjury...for a frikkin' traffic ticket!  What wouldn't these people lie about?  Oh....and to ice the cake he towed the bike because "he couldn't let me ride it away without insurance".  Again I volunteered to produce a card, which he refused, and to self tow, which he refused.  

Whatever a lawyer costs, I'll work to have this tossed.  I also intend to look into a Federal suit for violation of civil right, particularly to violation of equal protection and violation of property rights.  

Meanwhile, anybody want a Panigale with 5500 miles on it.  I'm finished with street riding for a while.

Whoa!  Now THAT sucks.

Sorry to hear Cloner-Buddy...

This really sounds bad, worse than our Ouray stunt...! Sorry! :-[ :-[ :-[ Did you get the deputy's name? There must be someone who knows this guy! You need a lawyer sure with the kind of tickets, there must be several there that will take a case like this, Jim will know one. It shouldn't be terrible hiring one, really, good luck! I'll check with few people...

Wow...sorry to hear that Scott.  >:(
Give Brent a shout, he might be able to help.

First of all, very sorry to hear that, Scott. I do know that, in the various jurisdictions that I've been asked to grace with my presence because my driving offending the sensibilities of some peace officer, the following are generally true:

- Tickets issued by a cop who do not actually witness the violation are tossed out.
- Even if the Ranger were to sign a statement, you (or more likely, your lawyer) can probably compel him to come to court and testify. That may act as a deterrent to him submitting such a statement.

What sucks is that  this will cost you money- the attorney, for starters. I'm not sure under what authority the deputy had the bike towed and if you can recover that. Again, in my experience, they could force you to park it and wait for the proof to arrive or you to have it towed. Then again, here in NY, where the insurance lobby helps run the state government, a cop can do a computer search and find out almost instantly if a vehicle is insured even if the driver does not have proof.

On a personal level, I'm glad for you that you enjoy racing and riding track days.

My intent is to find the most sanguine lawyer I can find and pay him to file every suit he can think to file against the Bernalillo County Sheriff's Department, Bernalillo County, NM PRC (who sets rates for involuntary towing), and anyone else he can file against.  Who knows, maybe they settle just to avoid the questions being asked in a true public forum.

The traffic lawyer is telling me he thinks he can get the whole thing tossed or get a deferred dismissal so that there is no ticket on my driving record.  We'll see.

hey what ever happend to this man?  I saw you got your bike out but never heard about the suits

Ya waits until the tickets are dealt with, then ya starts poking the bear.  Hearing was continued (by my lawyer) again yesterday.  I think his tactic is to push and push until Deputy Dawg doesn't show then get it tossed.

Glad to hear its being taken care of! I'm usually very pro-cop but there was no reason for all this. guy was totally out of line

Typical, good luck! The judge gets fed up finally and wants it done...keep us posted.  [thumbsup]

Watch out for an unmarked silver F150  [leo]   that is looking for victims up there.

I just realized I never updated the group, here.  All charges were dismissed.  If you need a traffic lawyer in ABQ I can recommend Glenn Smith Valdez.  Around $300 for the whole episode.

Done with the Crest.  Upon reflection, largely done with street riding.  Off road riding is more exhilarating at less than lethal speeds.  Race tracks don't have cops to make up bullshit tickets.

I think the Panigale will be traded on a new KTM this weekend.

 [thumbsup] Good news on your ticket,  you got off lot easier than the the musketeers in CO! :P

 :'( :'( No street,  that really sucks!!! I have been eyeing some dirt myself...but I ain't giving up street yet while one joint on the right is still functional,  ankle that is... ;D

Did some crazy mudding on a Teryx in WV for a poker run. ..nuts!  Pictures coming soon. Miss you all so much!

Miss you too JJ.
I broke my thumb riding dirt and hope to be back at it soon.
The Crest has been a mess with all the recent hail/snow.
I might give it a run by next weekend, otherwise I'm looking forward to doing
a Jemez or High Road to Taos ride in the near future.

Well the cool thing up norte is that I can take my XR400R about 8 miles and I am dirt in a couple different directions. I also have the high road & Jemez really close. It is great up here.  ;D

Good news, Scott. If only the deputy could be forced to pay the court costs & legal fees.

No court costs when it's dismissed.  Legal fees, on the other hand, are another matter.

Thanks for coming out to play today Larry  [Dolph]

Just got back from riding the Crest twice and S14 with L'Scott and we had a blast.
The sad thing was that we came up on a crash scene that ended in a fatality  :'(

Any updates on this? Anyone we know? Google pulls minimum news on this, the bike lying on left side of double is red, cannot say the make! Weird that it is lying on a curve and almost at apex and right beside double yellow...must have crashed and dragged to that point...SAD :'(

this is all I found on the news so far: http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3824505.shtml?cat=504#.VXswx7_bKcw (http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3824505.shtml?cat=504#.VXswx7_bKcw)

Did my first Crest run for the season and the first major ride on my new KTM RC390  [Dolph]

I enjoyed my spin around the block on the RC390.  Can't wait to get it over 7K rpm and with better suspension bits...

Got to take Jason up the Crest for two runs while running into Mark Holmes and Cris Beck.  [Dolph]