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Title: Laying it down
Post by: BoDiddley on October 01, 2013, 05:46:28 AM
What you think, on your bike would you have done the same or tried a different maneuver?

(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff406/DucatiRocket/1304071429_biker-falls-off-bike-pov.gif)


Title: Re: Laying it down
Post by: ChrisK on October 01, 2013, 05:52:14 AM
Was it intentional? Looks to me like he might have just grabbed a fist full of front brake and gone down on accident.

Either way, I would have TRIED to slow down as much as possible and then swerve to the left - but of course hindsight is 20/20 and I know from experience that the mind doesn't work that rationally when put in situations like that.


Title: Re: Laying it down
Post by: ChrisK on October 01, 2013, 05:52:43 AM
I also believe a moderator will move this to the Riding Techniques area  ;D


Title: Re: Laying it down
Post by: ducpainter on October 01, 2013, 05:59:58 AM
I also believe a moderator will move this to the Riding Techniques area  ;D
Good guess. ;)


Title: Re: Laying it down
Post by: HotIce on October 01, 2013, 06:04:26 AM
I think he overreacted  ;D

I overreacted. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr9FjAJFim8#)


Title: Re: Laying it down
Post by: BoDiddley on October 01, 2013, 06:25:22 AM
Good guess. ;)

Dang! Too much coffee this morning............


Title: Re: Laying it down
Post by: Triple J on October 01, 2013, 09:15:40 AM
Was it intentional? Looks to me like he might have just grabbed a fist full of front brake and gone down on accident.

+1

If intentional, I would have tried to stop instead. Rubber to pavement has a better friction value than skin/leather to pavement, so you'll always stop faster using your brakes.


Title: Re: Laying it down
Post by: BoDiddley on October 01, 2013, 10:49:14 AM
If you watch his hands in the beginning you can see he almost takes a dive off to the right.  A little target fixation on the car he was passing probably, but I think and hope I would have done it different.   It looks like car on left, watch to see if it will pull to the right, look up to see holy crap I better jump, maneuvers were never in the program.
 

Or better yet wait a heartbeat to find the gap under the truck, push right bar ahead to get a lean, hit throttle, front brake a little, shift weight to lay it on the side, go under trucks center, come out the other side bring it up and keep going.   [laugh]


Title: Re: Laying it down
Post by: Cloner on October 02, 2013, 02:05:03 PM
This gent needs to practice "emergency stops".  Virtually any motorcycle stops better, steers better, and hurts its operator less when it's upright.    [Dolph]


Title: Re: Laying it down
Post by: ducpainter on October 02, 2013, 07:23:30 PM
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Or better yet wait a heartbeat to find the gap under the truck, push right bar ahead to get a lean, hit throttle, front brake a little, shift weight to lay it on the side, go under trucks center, come out the other side bring it up and keep going.   [laugh]


Like this?  ;D

Colin Edwards - 2008 Jerez MotoGP Qualifying Save (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37sl4YI-aYE#)


Title: Re: Laying it down
Post by: Kabulpostie on October 02, 2013, 07:30:27 PM
I'm hoping I would have not had to react at all. How can you miss bright orange huge Fing truck a good ways in front of you? His overtake rate of the car may indicate that he was riding a little faster than he should have. Not that I have ever ridden over the speed limit [roll] but if had I would have paid attention..you know scanning and other boring stuff that keep us from getting killed.

Long Rant over. Short version: Braked my ass off maybe been able to escape to the left, but really once I was on the brakes hard I don't know if I could have released and and turned.


Title: Re: Laying it down
Post by: $Lindz$ on October 03, 2013, 05:59:42 AM
As soon as this clip started I thought to myself "how does this dude not see that huge orange truck... Oh shit!"

I endo'd and broke a wrist and collarbone trying to stop before hitting a stalled car in a similar situation to this (at night big black tinted SUV in front didn't see the car til late and swerved around it. I came around the SUV into a ffffffuuuuuuuuuucccckkkkkkkkk stalled car). Ever since then, it's been priority #1 for riding on the road: make sure you see EVERYTHING ahead of you. This clip is just unfortunate rider not paying attention. Next time he will. That could have been ugly.


Title: Re: Laying it down
Post by: pesto on October 03, 2013, 06:10:13 AM
Is his foot caught under the wheel?


Title: Re: Laying it down
Post by: ChrisK on October 03, 2013, 06:51:11 AM
Is his foot caught under the wheel?

I was wondering the same thing, hopefully he got that thing out!


Title: Re: Laying it down
Post by: Steve.In.Atlanta on October 03, 2013, 08:00:01 AM
Ugh, that made my stomach hurt to watch.


Title: Re: Laying it down
Post by: Skybarney on October 03, 2013, 08:34:43 AM
Many years ago I had a car pull left in front of me and stop in the lane when riding my old S1 250 triple.  The bike had notoriously bad brakes, all I could do was hit them had then I locked the back brake slid it sideways to a stop as my hip thumped the car door possibly preventing a high side. 

I have often wondered if that option would work on a DTC ABS equiped bike.........

That save by Colin was epic  [thumbsup]

To stay on topic it looks like the Orange truck stopped rolling wheels right as his foot was about to go under the tire.  Hopefully he got off with some scratches.  Serious panic reaction on his part. 


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