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Moto Board => Stolen Motorcycles => Topic started by: He Man on December 29, 2014, 07:20:22 AM



Title: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: He Man on December 29, 2014, 07:20:22 AM
Any idea on tips on what to do next?

I filed a police report already. We have video footage but license plate is unclear and I have craigslist as my home page. This is my DR650. It does not have full coverage due to the purchase price and the cost of insurance in NYC and the deductible ( I would of only walked away with $1500 the first year, and then $1000 the next year).

Nevermind the lack of full insurance, but im hoping my parts pop up for sale so I can start getting some contact info. Do people usually post it everywhere? Im thinking to not post up on the DR forums and the advrider forums just because people read it and will spook out and not post the parts for sale.

so close to finishing the year out too.  :-\


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: Howie on December 29, 2014, 10:12:18 AM
Sorry to here this.  The only suggestion I can think of is maybe the license plate number can be enhanced.


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: He Man on December 29, 2014, 10:20:33 AM
Hopefully the cops don't just leave this thing hanging. (which they probably will). What can you do. :(


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: ducatiz on December 29, 2014, 07:07:07 PM
No advice.  Sorry man, that sucks asses.  All of them.


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: d3vi@nt on December 29, 2014, 07:59:37 PM
Do you have access to the video?  If so, can you post it up on youtube and see what shakes out? Might get lucky and somebody recognizes the vehicle or something...

Good luck. I hope they find the @-holes.


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: koko64 on December 30, 2014, 12:25:25 AM
Sorry to hear K.


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: 1.21GW on December 30, 2014, 08:04:22 AM
Just to add to the mix: a friend of mine had her DR250 stolen 2 weeks ago in Bed-Sty.  Could be a trend so it might be worth considering extra security measures for those of you that have your bike(s) parked outside.



Anyway, sorry to hear that, He Man.   [thumbsdown]


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: He Man on December 30, 2014, 10:44:33 AM
Just to add to the mix: a friend of mine had her DR250 stolen 2 weeks ago in Bed-Sty.  Could be a trend so it might be worth considering extra security measures for those of you that have your bike(s) parked outside.



Anyway, sorry to hear that, He Man.   [thumbsdown]

That's ironic. I was parked about 15 blcoks from bed stuy. 2 weeks ago a Ducati 696 was also stolen from Bed Stuy. Sounds like the same guys to me. Did she report it?

I got the video of the dude robbing my bike. going to pick it up now from the store owner and he said u can see his face. Hopefully I can grab a good still and plaster the guys face on the internet. If I find this dude, he can have my bike. Im taking his thumbs.


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: 1.21GW on December 30, 2014, 12:47:04 PM
Yeah, she reported it.  But no follow up as far as I know.  She's just hoping to get enough from insurance to get a replacement.

Bike thieves should have more than their thumbs removed, FWIW.


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: He Man on December 30, 2014, 01:38:25 PM
BINGO.

We have some leads.

1. The vehicle

The van picture is a Atlantic Appliance Co van. It appears to be an older early 90s style Dodge 1500 LONG BODY van. They have two known locations outisde of the city near Mt. Kisco. It is likely that the delivery drivers live in NYC and completed their rounds the day before and slept in their home. They wake up early in the morning and drive back to the warehouse to pick up new cargo and deliver in the city again.

2. The thieves

It is likely that there are multiple vans that Atlantic Appliance Co uses, therefore not all the drivers are the same. The theives are seen from 3:05 am and waited approximately 25 minutes prior to stealing the first bike. and circled the block once and stole the second bike. It is unclear why they waited so long. Either out of stupidity, fear of getting caught and one of them was egging the other on to complete the job...who knows.

3. My request

Please keep an eye out for all vehicles that show Atlantic Appliance Co on the side. Chances are they have multiple vehicles but perhaps there are telltale signs that show on the vehicle.

I do not know if the vehicle is stolen.

(http://oi57.tinypic.com/65qpsm.jpg)


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: 1.21GW on December 30, 2014, 05:18:17 PM
Nice work, Columbo.  Will keep an eye out.  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: He Man on December 30, 2014, 07:12:59 PM
Note:

Its possible that the van does not belong to the Atlantic Appliances, it would just mean that it was sold and the vans old paint remained.


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: Howie on December 30, 2014, 10:28:44 PM
Or stolen.  Anyway, contacting these Atlantic Appliances folk might not be a bad idea.  I would start by asking if they deliver to Brooklyn.


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: He Man on January 10, 2015, 06:41:23 PM
Some good news and bad news and updates

Good News:

My GF's bike was found! And its practically untouched!

Bad News:

My bike is still MIA

___

Updates, they know who did it. But cannot find him. Apparently, hes been rebadging VIN numbers on bikes with clean ones that he has titles with. That means that eventually my bike will be on sale on CL somewhere. If hes going to go as far as marking the engine I don't know. that means that I when I find my bike, my VIN will not match on my frame. But it may still match on my engine. Aside from that, I have no way of saying its mine. His vin will be legal, his title will be original since he legit washes the ink off the old title and resells it.


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: ducatiz on January 11, 2015, 12:14:14 PM
"legit washes the ink?"

WUT?


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: He Man on January 11, 2015, 09:12:48 PM
he take an actual title paper, uses a chemical to remove the printed ink (literally washing the ink off), and reprints new text onto it with a clean vin number.


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: ducpainter on January 12, 2015, 05:39:03 AM
Don't they verify numbers when doing safety inspections?

In NH the vehicle would eventually, within 30 days of registration, be discovered.


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: Howie on January 12, 2015, 05:55:40 AM
Moto inspection in NYC is often hand over money, get sticker. 


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: He Man on January 12, 2015, 12:00:12 PM
i think you mean during registration?

I have registered dirtbikes (whose VIN isnt part of the DMV database) without issue, im guessing the same thing would happen during registration of the fake VIN.

That or they get a VIN from an older bike and just copy it over.


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: ducpainter on January 12, 2015, 04:54:12 PM
i think you mean during registration?

I have registered dirtbikes (whose VIN isnt part of the DMV database) without issue, im guessing the same thing would happen during registration of the fake VIN.

That or they get a VIN from an older bike and just copy it over.
Nope...during inspection. In NH a vehicle inspection station is required to match the VIN from the reg to the vehicle.


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: He Man on January 13, 2015, 08:49:41 AM
i wouldnt doubt that that is a requirement in NY too, but ive never seen anyone do it.



Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: Howie on January 13, 2015, 09:40:38 AM
Most of the time they don't even check my lights.


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: 1.21GW on January 13, 2015, 09:50:40 AM
My rear brake light switch didn't work last year.  Figure that was important enough to catch.  Nah.  I passed.


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: Bladecutter on January 13, 2015, 04:38:54 PM
Updates, they know who did it. But cannot find him. Apparently, hes been rebadging VIN numbers on bikes with clean ones that he has titles with. That means that eventually my bike will be on sale on CL somewhere. If hes going to go as far as marking the engine I don't know. that means that I when I find my bike, my VIN will not match on my frame. But it may still match on my engine. Aside from that, I have no way of saying its mine. His vin will be legal, his title will be original since he legit washes the ink off the old title and resells it.

If you have your engine number and your VIN number, just go see any bike that appears on Craigslist over the next month or 3 that matches your bike's description.
If you see your bike, call the cops immediately, and tell them when they arrive that this guy is in possession of a stolen bike, and your engine number is all the proof that you need.

Or, you could just tell the guy the history of what's happened to your bikes while parked on the street, and he will simply give you the bike back, and then call a hazmat team to clean him up.

BC.


Title: Re: Bike Was Stolen
Post by: Bladecutter on January 13, 2015, 04:42:13 PM
he take an actual title paper, uses a chemical to remove the printed ink (literally washing the ink off), and reprints new text onto it with a clean vin number.

That seems like such a silly way to do things.
Way easier to buy a bike with a bad engine, but a clean title, and simply swap the frame on the bike.
Then it's way more legal.

I bought a Hawk GT from the NYC Police Impound Auction way back in '03.
The NYPD Auction genius' screwed up the VIN on the paperwork, so I couldn't register the bike properly.
So I bought a frame with a clean title from someone in Minnesota, and swapped the frame onto my bike, and registered that perfectly fine.

BC.


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