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Title: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on August 11, 2016, 06:24:33 PM

Anyone have first-hand experience with ceramic coated exhaust pipes?  Does the coating make a real noticeable difference or is it just wishful thinking?


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Pinocchio on August 12, 2016, 07:55:42 AM
You'd have to dyno the bike with the intent of remapping the ECU to take advantage of the "exhaust port scouring" property that ceramic coating provides, otherwise you'll just get more lean popping on deceleration. You might also notice less radiant heat from the header in heavy traffic, but without remapping, that's about it.


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on August 12, 2016, 05:22:50 PM

My intent with ceramic coating would be to reduce the radiant heat from the exhaust system… especially the rear cylinder that has the header right under the seat.  I'm not concerned about potential performance gains, although, MORE POWER is always better  [evil]

I'm beginning to realize the R-spec 999 must have a useable riding "season" of about four days in mid-February when it's about 28 degrees or so.  Oh well.  I like February…


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: swanny on August 12, 2016, 06:26:16 PM
How about wrapping the exhaust?

Swanny


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: muskrat on August 13, 2016, 03:36:25 AM
I'm told it helps and I also don't think you need more power.  [evil]


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on August 13, 2016, 05:53:23 AM
How about wrapping the exhaust?

Swanny

Does that help reduce the heat on the rider?  Silly question I know but having read just enough technical stuff to be  dangerous, as I understand it, engines perform better *to a point* if they retain some heat in the exhaust system.  Turbochargers get heat blankets, etc.  Unclear if it reduces the ambient heat in the engine compartment/inside bike fairings.

Thanks for the replies.


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: swanny on August 13, 2016, 06:19:19 AM
Does that help reduce the heat on the rider?  Silly question I know but having read just enough technical stuff to be  dangerous, as I understand it, engines perform better *to a point* if they retain some heat in the exhaust system.  Turbochargers get heat blankets, etc.  Unclear if it reduces the ambient heat in the engine compartment/inside bike fairings.

Thanks for the replies.


I would think so since the heat is coming from the inside of the pipes...but I am no expert!

Swanny


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on August 14, 2016, 01:57:02 PM

Going with the heat wrap of the rear cylinder header and S-pipe for now.

Took the bike out this morning at 8 am when it was about 78 degrees.  No worries.  Headed home when it hit 85 at 10:00.  Just starting to get too hot to ride…  Come on February  [bang]  [bang]


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Charlie98 on August 17, 2016, 05:56:40 AM
I rode my 796 a little in the last 2 weeks (95-100F) and setting at lights was hell (almost quite literally, given the heat.)  I've considered ceramic coating as well, but also wondered about how effective thermal wrap would be...

Anyone know someone in the DFW area that does ceramic?  I'd like to at least get an idea of what it costs...


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Pinocchio on August 17, 2016, 07:04:19 PM
I have used Quality Powder Coating on Forms Dr. In Carrollton, but any powder coating place should do ceramic coating. Cost was $250 with a week turnaround time, but it's been a minute since that job was done.

BTW, I got aluminized silver for looks, but flat black is supposed to have better heat-holding properties.


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on August 27, 2016, 02:50:33 PM

OK, so never mind on the heat wrap.  My garage is 110 degrees… Can't "work" in that!

Having the pipes ceramic coated  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Speeddog on August 27, 2016, 08:21:11 PM
I've done a couple sets of customer's pipes in the satin black.

Looks good, and the vendor said it's real-world friendly, as opposed to the flat or gloss.


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on August 28, 2016, 03:36:47 AM
I've done a couple sets of customer's pipes in the satin black.

Looks good, and the vendor said it's real-world friendly, as opposed to the flat or gloss.

Thanks.  I originally thought silver would work OK, but I'll go with Satin Black then.


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Mhanis on August 29, 2016, 02:38:41 AM
Where are you having it done? This is something I have always been curious about but never seriously enough to look into it.

Mark



Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Charlie98 on August 31, 2016, 05:08:20 AM
Didn't happen without pictures!!!   [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on August 31, 2016, 10:45:02 AM
Where are you having it done? This is something I have always been curious about but never seriously enough to look into it.

Mark


AMS is farming it out so I don't know who is actually doing the coating.  I'll know when I pick the bike up.



Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on August 31, 2016, 10:45:36 AM
Didn't happen without pictures!!!   [thumbsup]

Oh, don't you worry  [evil]


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: muskrat on August 31, 2016, 03:33:19 PM
That bike has spent more time on the lift than on the road.......... [cheeky]


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Speeddog on August 31, 2016, 04:01:04 PM
 [popcorn]


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on August 31, 2016, 05:21:04 PM
That bike has spent more time on the lift than on the road.......... [cheeky]


DON'T START WITH ME!   Jus' sayin'  [shot]

If only other manufacturers made sport bikes...


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: lilmonsta on August 31, 2016, 07:55:03 PM
How much are they charging?


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on September 01, 2016, 11:55:30 AM
How much are they charging?

Haven't seen the bill yet.  Probably another week or so before everything gets reassembled and ready for pick-up.


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: lilmonsta on September 11, 2016, 12:52:20 PM
So what was the final bill?  How did they turn out?


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: ducpainter on September 11, 2016, 02:27:24 PM
So what was the final bill?  How did they turn out?
11ty billion dollars? ;D


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on September 11, 2016, 03:20:28 PM
11ty billion dollars? ;D

Aw, man.  You nailed it.  Hats-off to Ductape, wherever you are  [beer]


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: muskrat on September 18, 2016, 03:43:02 AM
is it running now?  can you do rides now?  [coffee]


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Charlie98 on September 18, 2016, 06:01:33 PM
is it running now?  can you do rides now?  [coffee]

It didn't happen without 11ty million pictures...   ;D


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on September 18, 2016, 06:06:36 PM
is it running now?  can you do rides now?  [coffee]

No.  But my other bike is working very well.


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: TresGatos on September 21, 2016, 03:00:06 PM
 can you do rides now?  [coffee]
Yes I can, thanks for asking ;D [popcorn]


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on October 07, 2016, 04:34:41 PM

SO!  I got the SBK yesterday with brushed aluminum colored ceramic coating on the exhaust system - inside and out.  And let me just say this; the exhaust pipes were cool to the touch by the time I had parked in the garage, gone inside and changed out of my riding gear.  And this was at 5:45 pm, ambient temps in the mid 90's.

If anyone is on the fence about ceramic coating, I whole heartedly recommend it.

Do it…   [Dolph]


P.S.  Yea, yea… Pictures or it didn't happen.
       Patience, people.  It was raining today.



Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Speeddog on October 07, 2016, 07:33:17 PM
 [popcorn]


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: muskrat on October 08, 2016, 05:05:04 AM
you have a garage......... [thumbsdown]


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on October 08, 2016, 09:36:31 AM


(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z234/n2f/2005%20Ducatai%20999R/DSC00594.jpg)

(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z234/n2f/2005%20Ducatai%20999R/DSC00595.jpg)

(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z234/n2f/2005%20Ducatai%20999R/DSC00596.jpg)


Happy?   [evil]



Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Charlie98 on October 08, 2016, 11:15:50 AM



Happy?   [evil]



Yes!

Unhappy my pipes are coated...  yet.  What was the cost of just the coating... assuming they itemized?


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on October 09, 2016, 02:45:12 AM

Unhappy my pipes are coated...  yet.  What was the cost of just the coating... assuming they itemized?



I think it was right around 300 bucks (I picked up the bike Thursday afternoon about 5 minutes after AMS closed) so I did not get my copy of the itemized bill because it was so late in the day.  When I do, I will post.

Now about those group rides everyone keeps talking about  ;D
 


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: muskrat on October 19, 2016, 02:41:54 PM
only half.....does she purr and growl like a scolded pregnant dog?


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on October 19, 2016, 07:35:32 PM
only half.....does she purr and growl like a scolded pregnant dog?

Let's put it this way; I've ridden it just one time without earplugs  [evil]  Never got above 70 mph.  Ouch!


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: muskrat on October 22, 2016, 01:41:04 PM
well then I'll whip her into shape.  Jason pushed me regularly past 100 today....degrees that is.  :-X


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on October 22, 2016, 07:12:25 PM


Well… I'm in northern California.  On the beach.  It's sixty-five.  Degrees that is  [cheeky]

(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z234/n2f/DSC00729.jpg)



And just so we're clear on my bike - it has been known to go above 70 mph on one or two occasions.  Not while I'm riding it of course.  Alan is the one…




Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: NorDog on February 14, 2017, 11:32:58 AM
Hello All.

Been awhile, but wanted to drop in and say hello.

Cher, what model are you riding these days?


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: ducpainter on February 15, 2017, 05:22:16 AM
Hello All.

Been awhile, but wanted to drop in and say hello.

Cher, what model are you riding these days?
You might want to do a little catching up... http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=74643.0


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: NorDog on February 15, 2017, 11:13:34 AM
You might want to do a little catching up... http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=74643.0

Oh lord.  I had no idea.  Glad you're still with us Cher.

I had a matte red ceramic coating on the Termi headers of my S4Rs.  I was only going for the appearance, and I liked it, but the coating did start to flake off right at the exhaust ports.

I sure miss Texas and all the nice Ducati folks in the DFW area.


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on February 16, 2017, 10:28:59 AM

Thanks.  I'm hanging up the helmet.  I had lots of fun riding and I will miss The Group but it is time for me to find another hobby that does not threaten life and limb  ;D


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: NorDog on February 16, 2017, 11:55:34 AM
I love photography.

 :)


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: Cher on February 17, 2017, 02:51:58 PM
I love photography.

 :)

Me too!  Photography and travel.  Good pair.


Title: Re: Ceramic Coating?
Post by: NorDog on February 17, 2017, 04:59:39 PM
Me too!  Photography and travel.  Good pair.


Do you currently have a camera?  Are you shooting pix?  Would love to see some of your photos.

I had my first gallery exhibition in LA last October.

Here are some of the images shown...

http://hiddenurbanbeauty.blogspot.com/


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