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Title: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 01, 2018, 06:35:41 AM
FP1

Andrea Iannone ITA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 47.253s [Lap 18/18] 343km/h (Top Speed)
Michele Pirro ITA Ducati Team (GP18) 1m 47.803s +0.550s [5/16] 355k
Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (GP18) 1m 47.961s +0.708s [6/16] 353k
Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 47.995s +0.742s [7/18] 345k
Jack Miller AUS Pramac Ducati (GP17) 1m 48.035s +0.782s [18/19] 343k
Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 48.035s +0.782s [6/18] 345k
Franco Morbidelli ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 48.211s +0.958s [15/19] 341k
Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 48.218s +0.965s [5/19] 343k
Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (GP18) 1m 48.219s +0.966s [5/18] 344k
Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 48.229s +0.976s [9/17] 347k
Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1) 1m 48.272s +1.019s [18/19] 342k
Alex Rins ESP Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 48.274s +1.021s [5/19] 342k
Danilo Petrucci ITA Pramac Ducati (GP18) 1m 48.304s +1.051s [7/19] 352k
Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 48.384s +1.131s [9/16] 343k
Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 48.570s +1.317s [13/18] 344k
Karel Abraham CZE Angel Nieto Team (GP16) 1m 48.573s +1.320s [16/16] 349k
Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 48.669s +1.416s [6/19] 344k
Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V)* 1m 48.878s +1.625s [12/20] 340k
Alvaro Bautista ESP Angel Nieto Team (GP17) 1m 48.920s +1.667s [18/20] 345k
Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 49.086s +1.833s [18/19] 344k
Tito Rabat ESP Reale Avintia (GP17) 1m 49.181s +1.928s [16/17] 346k
Thomas Luthi SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 49.460s +2.207s [12/15] 334k
Scott Redding GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 49.499s +2.246s [6/13] 340k
Hafizh Syahrin MAL Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 49.650s +2.397s [16/17] 336k
Xavier Simeon ESP Reale Avintia (GP16)* 1m 50.315s +3.062s [16/17] 346k


FP2

= Andrea Iannone ITA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 46.735s [Lap 20/21] 343km/h (Top Speed)
^2 Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 47.122s +0.387s [21/23] 346k
^3 Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 47.218s +0.483s [12/21] 348k
^7 Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1) 1m 47.365s +0.630s [21/22] 344k
= Jack Miller AUS Pramac Ducati (GP17) 1m 47.403s +0.668s [19/21] 341k
^4 Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 47.433s +0.698s [20/21] 351k
^1 Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 47.445s +0.710s [20/21] 343k
˅1 Franco Morbidelli ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 47.497s +0.762s [13/20] 344k
^4 Danilo Petrucci ITA Pramac Ducati (GP18) 1m 47.569s +0.834s [21/21] 351k
˅1 Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (GP18) 1m 47.691s +0.956s [21/22] 345k
^7 Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V)* 1m 47.901s +1.166s [22/22] 343k
˅9 Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (GP18) 1m 47.902s +1.167s [4/21] 356k
^4 Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 47.924s +1.189s [20/20] 346k
^10 Hafizh Syahrin MAL Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 47.946s +1.211s [19/20] 341k
˅3 Alex Rins ESP Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 47.996s +1.261s [19/22] 344k
˅2 Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 48.113s +1.378s [15/17] 344k
^4 Tito Rabat ESP Reale Avintia (GP17) 1m 48.221s +1.486s [13/20] 347k
˅3 Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 48.269s +1.534s [19/20] 347k
^4 Scott Redding GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 48.458s +1.723s [17/18] 344k
˅1 Alvaro Bautista ESP Angel Nieto Team (GP17) 1m 48.524s +1.789s [19/21] 345k
˅5 Karel Abraham CZE Angel Nieto Team (GP16) 1m 48.926s +2.191s [12/17] 345k
˅2 Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 49.044s +2.309s [4/18] 344k
˅1 Thomas Luthi SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 49.082s +2.347s [5/21] 339k
˅22 Michele Pirro ITA Ducati Team (GP18) 1m 49.111s +2.376s [5/5] 355k
= Xavier Simeon ESP Reale Avintia (GP16)* 1m 49.757s +3.022s [19/19] 345k


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: Speeddog on June 01, 2018, 01:07:31 PM
Man, Pirro copped a beating, good news is he seems to be pretty much OK.  :o


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: koko64 on June 01, 2018, 01:16:53 PM
That was a big stack. :o

Dovi sets a new speed record of 356.4 kmh. Then his bike blows up catching fire for another red flag.

Jack's doing well.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 01, 2018, 01:45:22 PM
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/897318/1/ducati-pirro-doing-better-expected


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: koko64 on June 01, 2018, 02:02:12 PM
Pirro regained consciousness when the trackside docs put his dislocated arm back in place. That's one way to bring someone back. [evil]


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 01, 2018, 02:16:44 PM
https://youtu.be/Rv1HyZMXjog


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: koko64 on June 01, 2018, 02:20:39 PM
 [laugh]


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 01, 2018, 04:11:35 PM
“Maverick Vinales says Movistar Yamaha’s wholesale changes to his YZR-M1 has restored his confidence to attack after ending Friday practice at Mugello second quickest.”


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 01, 2018, 06:52:01 PM
https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/motogp/friday-italian-gp-motogp-summary-2018/


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: koko64 on June 02, 2018, 04:55:34 AM
Yamaha strike back. Goat on pole.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: Speeddog on June 02, 2018, 09:01:35 AM
Just under 0.8 sec covers the top 12

It is a track that plays to Yamaha's historical strengths, not sure to what degree that's true today.

Rossi has expanded his repertoire to include "Saturday Man" for his home event.

They do seem to have made good progress, Vinales doing well on a very hot track.
He was reportedly running with the rear wheel far forward in the adjustment.

Lorenzo very rapid, I suspect there's something concrete in his future to support the pace.

Iannonne about up to his usual "just lost his job and he's pissed" pace.

Marquez and Dovi struggling to get a fast lap.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 02, 2018, 02:58:35 PM
 [evil]

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/pramac-lamborghini-livery-italian-gp-mugello-1044055/


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: koko64 on June 02, 2018, 03:29:15 PM
Very cool. 8)


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: ducpainter on June 02, 2018, 04:21:14 PM
<snip>

Marquez and Dovi struggling to get a fast lap.
...and then comes Sunday.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: koko64 on June 03, 2018, 05:31:57 AM
Ducati 1, 2 and VR 3. Bravo!
Mugello is goin' off tonight!


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 03, 2018, 08:02:22 AM
Lorenzo was launched out of a cannon and never looked back.  [clap] 6 riders on the ground before lap 3. MM tried to ride it out.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: GK on June 03, 2018, 12:07:10 PM
Looked like the Lorenzo of old.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 03, 2018, 01:52:09 PM
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/897601/1/lorenzo-explains-how-ducati-modifications-boosted-victory-charge

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/897603/1/rossi-ducati-lorenzo-needs-time

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/897605/1/marquez-if-you-want-celebrate-crash-do-it-inside


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 03, 2018, 01:55:57 PM
https://twitter.com/ducatimotor/status/1003333480825212933?s=21


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: ducpainter on June 03, 2018, 02:13:33 PM
Gorgeous George must have had a better manicure...yeah that's it.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: scaudill on June 03, 2018, 02:27:50 PM
I think Marquez should have received penalty points for pushing Petrucci of the track.  Petrucci used up his tires catching the front runners.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: koko64 on June 03, 2018, 02:56:14 PM
Gorgeous George must have had a better manicure...yeah that's it.
I remember that wrestler. ;D

I reckon Ducati team thought that Dovi's a hard braker, so why does Lorenzo need a different tank? Maybe lack of upper body strength or due to sitting back further with a larger gap to the tank? Was it an excuse or a real issue? If it was a major factor, we should see some more wins or podiums.

I think Marquez should have received penalty points for pushing Petrucci of the track.  Petrucci used up his tires catching the front runners.

Good point.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: ducpainter on June 03, 2018, 03:10:19 PM
I remember that wrestler. ;D

I reckon Ducati team thought that Dovi's a hard braker, so why does he need a different tank? Maybe lack of upper body strength or due to sitting back further with a larger gap to the tank? Was it an excuse or a real issue? If it was a major factor, we should see some more wins or podiums.

Good point.

George is too 'particular'. If everything isn't perfect. he sucks. If all his Ducs are lined up, he's unbeatable. Ducati's are not perfect...never have been.

I also don't think he gives many suggestions to the engineers as to what he needs. I obviously don't know, but if he needed a different tank shape to win races and told Gigi that's what he needed, do you really think it would have taken 18 months?

Ducati paid 25 million Euros to get him for 2 years. The tank mod cost $50.

I'm not buying the excuses. It was a good manicure.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 03, 2018, 03:25:31 PM
https://youtu.be/il1uHRJ89fM

https://youtu.be/RZ70gqd2qFw


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 03, 2018, 03:28:15 PM
Perfect music selection.  :D

https://youtu.be/K0ox31v5pRs


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: koko64 on June 03, 2018, 03:31:35 PM
I think Magilla or Jack will be more mentally robust and adaptable which the team will like. Surely the team will just generally get on better with either of those guys.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: ducpainter on June 03, 2018, 03:55:06 PM
Just for the record, nothing would make me happier than for You'reghey to go back to Yamaha, and whine about how Rossi and Vinales ruined the bike and that's why he can't perform.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: koko64 on June 03, 2018, 05:01:30 PM
You dont like him much ay? [laugh]


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: ute on June 03, 2018, 06:05:32 PM
He will still be Georgeeeee Lorloser

As said above if nobody bothers him he can ride at the front but it all has to be perfect ..tank is an excuse


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: Blackout on June 04, 2018, 05:50:03 AM
I think Marquez should have received penalty points for pushing Petrucci of the track.  Petrucci used up his tires catching the front runners.
Agree. The officials are letting him get away with all kinds of nonsense.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 04, 2018, 02:39:40 PM
If ya missed it.

https://youtu.be/hgDDV2jMWk4


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: ducpainter on June 04, 2018, 02:45:46 PM
If ya missed it.

https://youtu.be/hgDDV2jMWk4
Ugliest crash I've seen in a long time.

Makes me hurt just watching. :-X


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: koko64 on June 04, 2018, 04:59:18 PM
Very ugly. Shows how good the safety gear is.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 04, 2018, 05:57:47 PM
I hope someone has footage from trackside, so you can really get a feel for the distance he was airborne.  :o


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 04, 2018, 06:00:40 PM
I actually hoped Danilo snatched MM out of his boots and wall to wall counseled him.  ;)

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/897607/1/petruccis-work-wasted-marquez-incident


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: koko64 on June 04, 2018, 06:12:16 PM
You don't want Magilla gettin' hold of ya'😎


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 04, 2018, 06:21:18 PM
No sir!


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: Speeddog on June 04, 2018, 07:58:56 PM
That'd probably do in 3 normal people.
And he was asking if they'd let him race the next day.

I suspect Dani is over showing Danilo the clear differences between his leathers and MM's.
Lest he get bulldozed by mistake.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: ducpainter on June 08, 2018, 06:30:50 AM
Was the cause of Pirro's crash ever determined?


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: Blackout on June 08, 2018, 06:39:20 AM
rider error  ;D


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: ducpainter on June 08, 2018, 06:44:25 AM
rider error  ;D
Funny guy you are...


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 08, 2018, 06:45:09 AM
Was the cause of Pirro's crash ever determined?

“It is thought that a small tankslapper knocked the pads back in the calipers and Pirro's third attempt to make the carbon brakes caused the pads to bite so violently, the GP18 rotated around its front wheel spindle and fired him into the air.”


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: ducpainter on June 08, 2018, 06:46:59 AM
“It is thought that a small tankslapper knocked the pads back in the calipers and Pirro's third attempt to make the carbon brakes caused the pads to bite so violently, the GP18 rotated around its front wheel spindle and fired him into the air.”
Sounds reasonable


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: Speeddog on June 08, 2018, 08:49:30 AM
That's a confidence booster right there.
2 tries on the brake get nothing, and the 3rd try gets you teleported onto the back of Bodacious to get tentpegged.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 08, 2018, 09:52:57 AM
These guys won’t get the Bodacious reference.  :D


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: ducpainter on June 08, 2018, 10:45:26 AM
These guys won’t get the Bodacious reference.  :D
Which guy?


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 08, 2018, 11:36:23 AM
Which guy?

I’m sure they’ll chime in.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: GK on June 08, 2018, 12:24:46 PM
The braking mishap turned the bike into Bodacious the hall of fame bucking bull!

I had to google it! 👍🏻


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 08, 2018, 12:53:47 PM
Ding ding.  ;)

Here he is in his heyday. None other like him.

https://youtu.be/COSZGvkJWiI


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: Speeddog on June 08, 2018, 12:59:57 PM
I often google for a translation of Aussie or Euro slang, turnabout's fair play!  ;D

One name instead of ten words, I couldn't resist.



Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 08, 2018, 01:06:27 PM
That bull was such a badass that Primus wrote that song just for him.  8)


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: GK on June 08, 2018, 01:14:34 PM
One tough bull. Imagine him landing on you with that 1900 pounds off beef!


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 08, 2018, 01:35:43 PM
Honestly I think I’d rather have Bodacious squish me than get launched off a bike at the speed Pirro was going.  ;)


Title: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: GK on June 08, 2018, 01:41:50 PM
It was one nasty crash for sure. He was certainly flying! I count a full 2 seconds.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: ducpainter on June 08, 2018, 02:38:09 PM
Honestly I think I’d rather have Bodacious squish me than get launched off a bike at the speed Pirro was going.  ;)
Never wanted to be Superman?


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 08, 2018, 02:53:24 PM
Never wanted to be Superman?

I never liked hair gel.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: ducpainter on June 08, 2018, 02:54:35 PM
I never liked hair gel.
There's more to it. :-*


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 08, 2018, 02:57:56 PM
I couldn’t pull off a cape either.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: ducpainter on June 08, 2018, 03:00:40 PM
I couldn’t pull off a cape either.
;D

Don't sell yourself short.


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: GK on June 08, 2018, 04:33:20 PM
Cue Superman theme...


Title: Re: Gran Premio d’Italia 🇮🇹 (Spoiling)
Post by: kopfjäger on June 08, 2018, 04:47:11 PM
https://youtu.be/Q2l4bz1FT8U


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