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I'm going to reserve my judgement for if and when the Facts come out on this one... but I don't think I'm going to like it either way.

Not a lot of details, so far, other than the driver was 23 and was driving a company vehicle.

No charges have been filed, as of yet.

My condolences to all the families of the victims.

 :'(  just terrible.

WOW!  Awful :'(

The driver has been charged with 7 counts of negligent homicide.  The story didn't give any other details.

Victims names have been released. RIP

https://www.foxnews.com/us/pickup-truck-driver-arrested-following-new-hampshire-highway-collision-that-left-7-motorcyclists-dead

Possibility of heroin residue found at his residence. Several DUI arrests.

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/Bikers-Bid-Goodbye-to-7-Motorcyclists-Killed-in-New-Hampshire-Crash-511718041.html

 [bang] [bang] [bang]

Regardless of the outcome, fault...whatever...it just sucks.

The kid/guy was arraigned in court in MA just now, and has been extradited to NH to face 7 counts of negligent homicide.

As much mountain riding that my group does this is my biggest fear, coming around a corner with a truck in the lane. No escape. RIP riders. :'(

Here, involvement in a fatal accident automatically sends you to court with a wreckless manslaughter (spelling?) regardless of how guilty you appear to be. Same in N.H.?

Definition of each for NH:
https://www.drivinglaws.org/resources/new-hampshire-negligent-vehicular-homicide-laws-and-penalties.html

He's currently charged with 7 counts of Negligent Homicide.

If he was DUI it's a Class A felony, conviction is up to 15 years in prison, up to $4k fine.
Not DUI, Class B felony, up to 7 years in prison, up to $4k fine.

Manslaughter is a higher level offense, up to 30 years in prison.

I've no idea how they figure sentencing on multiple convictions.
I suspect he will effectively serve a lifetime sentence.

Also, I wager that Westfield Transport will be burned to the ground, for all intents and purposes.
I doubt they had sufficient liability insurance to cover this, and I suspect that coverage is excluded for negligent acts.
They may well face criminal prosecution as well, in light of his prior DWI offenses.
Certainly they'll be buried by civil suits.

I'm puzzled by his release from the accident scene, that makes zero sense to me.

I suspect there will be several more circles of hell opening for all persons associated with him.

Ok - homicide sounds more like what we have. Previously it was up to the police to prosecute and they often didn't.

I can guarantee that if there was any chance of DUI he never would have been allowed to leave the state.

Exactly my thought, but given the severity of the accident, I'm surprised he wasn't arrested on the spot due to that alone.

It's why we have laws...

which is not to be discussed here. ;D

Damn!  [bang]

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/06/25/driver-pleads-not-guilty-in-motorcycle-crash-that-killed-7/

I'd call that a clustermake the beast with two backs, but that would be a heinous insult to all the other clustermake the beast with two backss before.

It's never been up to the police to prosecute. They can make a recommendation to the DA but that's it.

He wasn't showing signs of impairment at the scene or he would not have been released. So not likely an alcohol DUI. And unless they drew blood in a timely manner, which you need a warrant for, then they won't have a case for DUI. Not likely he will get life for one incident where he did not have the intention of killing 1 let alone 7 people.

Yes that company is likely toast. But from news reports some culpability in their defense lies with the DMV that failed to make the proper restrictions on his license.

Stopintime is located in Norway, so likely different prosecution structure.

In Norway. These cases were handled as traffic accidents.

Now it's getting truly clustermake the beast with two backsy  

https://www.pressherald.com/2019/06/26/ice-lays-claim-to-ukrainian-driver-accused-in-crash-that-killed-7-motorcyclists/

https://www.khou.com/article/news/crime/suspect-in-deadly-new-hampshire-crash-was-involved-in-rollover-crash-in-baytown-just-weeks-before-police-say/285-29db4f38-4c3c-43d0-ace9-0a1980f75294

I'm getting the distinct impression that we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg.
Every time it goes sideways I think, "Oh, that's it.".
Then it goes sideways again.

Which clustermake the beast with two backs is being insulted?

It's just a question. :P

This C/F has so many pderbyerous dimensions and as-yet undeveloped plot twists that it beggars belief.
It feels like one of the "Aircraft Disaster" videos.
But it would have to begin with the pilot inspecting a 3 foot hole in the wing and saying "Yep, looks legit, let's roll."

Seems to be clearly vying for #1 alltime C/F, and therefore redefine the term.

IMO.

I agree there is far more to this than has already come out

very sad for all
the families losing a dad a brother uncle or son, its overwhelmingly horrible
and 23 year old, he is just a man-child, imagine living with this for the next 50 60 70 years.

if you have not yet read
David L. Hough books Proficient Motorcycling: The Ultimate Guide to Riding Well and  More Proficient Motorcycling: Mastering the Ride,
take the time and maybe all of us will come home tonight. It very much speaks to preventing this kind of accident and many others.
peace y'all

Not that any of this would be a surprise;

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2019/08/01/truck-driver-was-drugs-reaching-for-drink-time-fatal-new-hampshire-crash-report-says/kJLXEvoX0NbtrceKpa8jgK/story.html