748 Brembo Masters on a S2R800?

Started by killerniceguy, April 27, 2009, 08:51:37 PM

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teddy037.2

the only radial master bike I road was Mac900's 900... brembo radials and evo slave, and it was a dry clutch bike... apples and oranges, but it was nice

for your bike, I'm sure the radial for the brakes will be a huge improvement w/all the other brake mods you want to eventually do

corey

Quote from: corey on April 29, 2009, 09:27:29 AM
Is there any performance benefit to switching 999 radial masters?
Especially regarding brakes?
Cowboy, i see you have some uber-upgraded brakes... Had you had the masters on before you upgraded everything else? Or was it all done at once?
I have been wondering if changing my brake master to something with a larger piston, or something that applies a little more pressure, will give a bit more responsiveness (not necessarily stopping power though) from my brakes...

anyone?
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teddy037.2

IIRC, radials also have the benefit of addtional lever feedback while braking.

when I switched from the coffins to the goldlines, I noticed an increse in braking force in the front the very first trip down the street  [laugh]. I rolled up to the stop sign w/the usual amount of pressure, stopped, and noticed that I was easily a foot, almost two, farther back from the line

COWBOY

Quote from: corey on April 29, 2009, 09:27:29 AM
Is there any performance benefit to switching 999 radial masters?
Especially regarding brakes?
Cowboy, i see you have some uber-upgraded brakes... Had you had the masters on before you upgraded everything else? Or was it all done at once?
I have been wondering if changing my brake master to something with a larger piston, or something that applies a little more pressure, will give a bit more responsiveness (not necessarily stopping power though) from my brakes...

the full swap I did on my bike resulted in both better overall braking performance and feel.  The feel was the most enhanced by the 999 masters.  I'm sure there was some advantage in pushing fluid to the upgraded calipers but for the most part they improved my  feel.

Honestly the biggest improvement for the dollar over stock was probably the cheapest --- swapping the stock pads for the Ferodos.

2005 S2R -- Mods installed: DP termi full racing kit, ST4 Forks, S4R rear shock, 999 Radial Brake and Clutch MCs, 4 pot Brembo Calipers, 320mm Snowflake rotors, SBK Quick change carrier, 43T rear sproket, Tomaselli Clip Ons, Cyclecat Frame Sliders, ASV Levers, zero indicators, Supernova taillight

Spidey

Quote from: corey on April 30, 2009, 12:36:54 PM
anyone?

The 999 masters give you better feel (and more power) than the Goldines or than the coffin masters.  I don't like the feel as much as, say, as an aftermarket Brembo radial master, but they're a definite step up from the Goldlines or coffins. 

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corey

so the 999 masters will mate up properly with my stock S2R800 brake lines???
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DarkMonster620

Quote from: corey on May 01, 2009, 02:01:03 PM
so the 999 masters will mate up properly with my stock S2R800 brake lines???

To add, and with Monster 620 Dark lines?
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rockaduc

Lines, yes.  The banjo bolts from your bike might have a different angle than was intended to attach to the 999 MC.  Really no biggie, just be creative with your angles and re-run your lines if you have to give yourself more room to work.
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DarkMonster620

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Quote from: rockaduc on May 02, 2009, 02:34:21 AM
Lines, yes.  The banjo bolts from your bike might have a different angle than was intended to attach to the 999 MC.  Really no biggie, just be creative with your angles and re-run your lines if you have to give yourself more room to work.

So final answer in this issue" I can bolt up directly the brake masters from a 749/999 and just play around a little with the angles? Also, I can directly bolt 320mm rotors from 748/998?

Anyone, please tell me this is the final answer, regarding the brakes.

What about other brand master cylinder for the brakes? ISR? Berhinger? Nissin?

For the clutch? Only Brembo, right? And the slave clutch cylinder, which is the best, Evo, DP, Oberon, ...?


Carlos
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Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
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teddy037.2

Quote from: M620D on May 01, 2009, 08:19:27 PM
To add, and with Monster 620 Dark lines?

iirc the lines are the same.

and the 320mm rotors and goldline 4 pot calipers will bolt on