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Monster Dave
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Powder Coating
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June 24, 2009, 07:03:48 AM »
Hey guys,
I'm interested in finding out how much of a job it would be to have a stock set of handle Monster bars powder coated (black). I really don't know anything about the process or if parts can be powder coated in other colors. I'm looking for a matte black finish for my bars.
Any suggestions before I call around for price quotes? Is there any special preparation that has to be done before taking them in? Any ideas on reasonable cost?
Thanks!
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angler
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Re: Powder Coating
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June 24, 2009, 07:17:43 AM »
They charge you somewhat based on oven area and media blasting time. Often you can get the same price for one small part or a pile of small parts. For instance I had some clip on bars, belt covers and a sprocket cover done recently and was quoted $60, but the guy gave me a $10 cash discount. I could have actually thrown in a few more items for the same price or had I done just the clip-ons, it still would have been $60.
When you clamp stuff to powder coated items there is a possibility of cracking the powder coat. I know this and had my bars done anyway. You can have them mask the areas where the bars are clamped to the triple and where the controls are clamped the the bar. I didn't. I was more concerned about the masking being wrong than any problem with the coating cracking and coming off.
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Re: Powder Coating
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June 24, 2009, 07:21:26 AM »
Quote from: angler on June 24, 2009, 07:17:43 AM
They charge you somewhat based on oven area and media blasting time. Often you can get the same price for one small part or a pile of small parts. For instance I had some clip on bars, belt covers and a sprocket cover done recently and was quoted $60, but the guy gave me a $10 cash discount. I could have actually thrown in a few more items for the same price or had I done just the clip-ons, it still would have been $60.
When you clamp stuff to powder coated items there is a possibility of cracking the powder coat. I know this and had my bars done anyway. You can have them mask the areas where the bars are clamped to the triple and where the controls are clamped the the bar. I didn't. I was more concerned about the masking being wrong than any problem with the coating cracking and coming off.
Did yours actually crack? I was thinking what you mentioned (about the masking being off) as I read your post. I'd hate for it to show.
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angler
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Re: Powder Coating
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June 24, 2009, 07:27:10 AM »
Quote from: Monster Dave on June 24, 2009, 07:21:26 AM
Did yours actually crack? I was thinking what you mentioned (about the masking being off) as I read your post. I'd hate for it to show.
I haven't installed the clip on bars yet so I don't know. I think the risk is really small for cracking. If the coating does give way, you risk having your bars slip in the triple clamps which could be hazardous. That said, I have been installing powder coated parts for years and never had a problem. Every powdered part is held in place by bolts or nuts. I won't say it hasn't happened to me, but rarely does tightening down a bolt or a nut remove the coating unless you go nuts. YMMV.
If the bars are Aluminum, you'd be much better off having them hard annodized black, IMHO.
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Re: Powder Coating
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June 24, 2009, 07:44:50 AM »
Quote from: angler on June 24, 2009, 07:27:10 AM
If the bars are Aluminum, you'd be much better off having them hard annodized black, IMHO.
Or ceramic coated. One of the qualities of powder coating is that it is a thick coating. That may or may not interfere with the fitting of the stuff on the bar, notably the throttle tube.
Anodizing or Ceramic coating, OTOH, is only 10/1000ths of an inch thick.
Also, if your bars are chrome plated steel, they may be significantly more expensive to powder coat because AFAIK the chrome would have to be removed in order for the coating to adhere.
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June 24, 2009, 07:46:05 AM »
what bike do you have?
If you were to PC it, id mark where everything goes on the bars with tape and bring it to the PCer. Id tape off the throttle housing, and the two 3/4" sections that the clamps go around.
I have a magura handle bar from an S2R1000, i dont think theres much to do in terms of prep. At the cost of having them anodized, id just sell the bars and get a set of rizomas. Im not a big fan of black anodizing hard or soft, it just doenst have a nice color to it. Unless its something bright like gold blue or red etc.
If you have the chrome ones, you'd have to get it sand blasted to remove all the chrome.
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June 24, 2009, 07:49:56 AM »
Quote from: He Man on June 24, 2009, 07:46:05 AM
what bike do you have?
If you were to PC it, id mark where everything goes on the bars with tape and bring it to the PCer. Id tape off the throttle housing, and the two 3/4" sections that the clamps go around.
I have a magura handle bar from an S2R1000, i dont think theres much to do in terms of prep. At the cost of having them anodized, id just sell the bars and get a set of rizomas. Im not a big fan of black anodizing hard or soft, it just doenst have a nice color to it. Unless its something bright like gold blue or red etc.
If you have the chrome ones, you'd have to get it sand blasted to remove all the chrome.
Yeah, they are the chrome ones....
I thought about getting clip ons a while back, but I just don't like the way that they look and I don't want to do bar risers with them because they it would look funky.
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Re: Powder Coating
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June 24, 2009, 10:00:12 AM »
if mine werent tweaked id offer them to you, i went down on my left side and the bar bent in about 1/4 of an inch. its the bling blang magura ones. ive been meaning to bring it to someone who can straighten it out for me and sell it. if you know someone in you're area who can do that, ill sell you mine for cheap, ill even PC it for you for free! but i only have a Harley wrinkle or high gloss black with me. Unless you want to order the color you want and send it to me.
my bar is a 7/8th inch if i recall correctly.
Maybe you can use easy oven cleaner to remove the chrome? im not sure if there are any household ways to easily remove it.
however if the chrome on your bar is flawless, im pretty sure you can PC right over it. Certain colors (especially candys) require the base coat to be either real chrome, powder chrome, or polished for it to come out right. I just dont know if theres a special technique to it or not since i havent done it.
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Monster Dave
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Re: Powder Coating
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June 24, 2009, 11:49:02 AM »
Quote from: He Man on June 24, 2009, 10:00:12 AM
if mine werent tweaked id offer them to you, i went down on my left side and the bar bent in about 1/4 of an inch. its the bling blang magura ones. ive been meaning to bring it to someone who can straighten it out for me and sell it. if you know someone in you're area who can do that, ill sell you mine for cheap, ill even PC it for you for free! but i only have a Harley wrinkle or high gloss black with me. Unless you want to order the color you want and send it to me.
my bar is a 7/8th inch if i recall correctly.
Maybe you can use easy oven cleaner to remove the chrome? im not sure if there are any household ways to easily remove it.
however if the chrome on your bar is flawless, im pretty sure you can PC right over it. Certain colors (especially candys) require the base coat to be either real chrome, powder chrome, or polished for it to come out right. I just dont know if theres a special technique to it or not since i havent done it.
I just picked up a stock bar from another member who lives local and it's perfect, but chrome. Ultimately, it will work, but I'd rather have black. So I'm looking at other options.
Thanks to this thread, I found a pair of black bars! Problem solved!!!
I suppose it's always good to have a backup either way!!!
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Re: Powder Coating
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June 24, 2009, 04:30:42 PM »
I had the suburban machinery bars on my Bandit powdercoated without taping...no problems.
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Re: Powder Coating
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June 24, 2009, 08:58:09 PM »
wow! looks awsome. i was considering powdercoating my suburban bars black but stick with the stainless look because it matches the tips of my termis to a tee. but man those look good. is that a satin black?
you have def. made me reconsidering powder coating them... THANKS A LOT!
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June 25, 2009, 02:05:18 AM »
Quote from: mrplease on June 24, 2009, 08:58:09 PM
wow! looks awsome. i was considering powdercoating my suburban bars black but stick with the stainless look because it matches the tips of my termis to a tee. but man those look good. is that a satin black?
you have def. made me reconsidering powder coating them... THANKS A LOT!
Thanks, and yep that's satin black.
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Re: Powder Coating
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June 25, 2009, 06:58:22 AM »
have you considered trying a black handlebar? i think rizoma makes one,
and i know that sunline makes a black handlebar that looks pretty spiffy. i cant say if it can stand the torque from street bike cornering, but ive seen at least one guy throw a set on a monster.
they are only 60 bucks too and come with a re-enforcement bar accross the middle that you could leave in if you like, or remove if you dont. (the bar comes wrapped with foam to keep mxers from bashing their teeth out but easily removed)
search ebay "sunline handlebar" and you should get lots of hits
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Re: Powder Coating
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June 25, 2009, 11:49:57 AM »
Quote from: redial on June 25, 2009, 06:58:22 AM
have you considered trying a black handlebar? i think rizoma makes one,
and i know that sunline makes a black handlebar that looks pretty spiffy. i cant say if it can stand the torque from street bike cornering, but ive seen at least one guy throw a set on a monster.
they are only 60 bucks too and come with a re-enforcement bar accross the middle that you could leave in if you like, or remove if you dont. (the bar comes wrapped with foam to keep mxers from bashing their teeth out but easily removed)
search ebay "sunline handlebar" and you should get lots of hits
As I said in a previous post in this thread, a fellow DMF'er helped me out with a pair black bars.
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Re: Powder Coating
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June 25, 2009, 08:08:27 PM »
i don't like how the sunline or rizoma bars sit. i really like the suburban m3 bars and the angle on them...
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