696 charcoal canister removal

Started by mrplease, May 23, 2009, 02:24:22 PM

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g-force

Quote from: Raux on May 28, 2009, 06:04:22 AM
can anyone identify the correct bolt size and length

yep, just did this myself. They are M6x8mm on the newer monsters (used to be M5 on older engines)

-G

ungeheuer

Quote from: Special K on May 27, 2009, 08:40:52 AM
I can say with certainty (sadly) that the overflow hose cannot handle actually overflowing at the gas pump.

This is not it's primary function.  The overflow hose is not there to channel away excess fuel if you're in an overflow situation at the pump, clearly the gas pump can dispense fuel faster than a tiny hose is gonna allow it to escape.  In that case you're in $hit  :(

The overflow hose is there to handle overflow due to fuel expansion. So for example.... if you  - even carefully without spilling - filled your tank to the very top and then.... left your bike parked in the sun, the fuel would expand and since you've left no ullage volume available (coz of your just-filled-it-all-the-way activity) the overflow hose allows the expanding fuel to escape.  I have actually done this, and I can tell ya that quite a constant dribble of fuel runs outa there and (more or less safely) onto the ground beneath the bike.  Imagine the outcome if you didnt have the overflow hose attached, where would the expanding fuel end up then??
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w7ck7d

i just did mine..and i plugged the manifold with m6x10 a lil longer.was wondering if this is going to be a problem in the future and should i use stainless screw ??.I cant find the m6x8 anywehere here in my place.i went to orchard and kregen they dont have it..
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Raux

Quote from: w7ck7d on May 29, 2009, 12:09:51 AM
i just did mine..and i plugged the manifold with m6x10 a lil longer.was wondering if this is going to be a problem in the future and should i use stainless screw ??.I cant find the m6x8 anywehere here in my place.i went to orchard and kregen they dont have it..


i'll see if i can get a mess of them in germany when i get back. in fact i'll go to the DUcati dealer and double check the length and try to match them perfectly.

Holden

Quote from: ungeheuer on May 28, 2009, 05:23:44 PM
This is not it's primary function.  The overflow hose is not there to channel away excess fuel if you're in an overflow situation at the pump, clearly the gas pump can dispense fuel faster than a tiny hose is gonna allow it to escape.  In that case you're in $hit  :(

The overflow hose is there to handle overflow due to fuel expansion. So for example.... if you  - even carefully without spilling - filled your tank to the very top and then.... left your bike parked in the sun, the fuel would expand and since you've left no ullage volume available (coz of your just-filled-it-all-the-way activity) the overflow hose allows the expanding fuel to escape.  I have actually done this, and I can tell ya that quite a constant dribble of fuel runs outa there and (more or less safely) onto the ground beneath the bike.  Imagine the outcome if you didnt have the overflow hose attached, where would the expanding fuel end up then??

It must have come out of the vent side, as the filler cap seals airtight. The only way the overflow hose can function is if the filler cap is left open (or bursts open, in which case petrol will spray everywhere anyway). ???

Regardless, it may still be a valid reason to keep the vent (red nipple) hose on. Out of curiosityâ€"how cool can metal be and still ignite petrol?

w7ck7d

Quote from: Raux on May 29, 2009, 12:59:39 AM
i'll see if i can get a mess of them in germany when i get back. in fact i'll go to the DUcati dealer and double check the length and try to match them perfectly.
i rode test the bike earlyer after the mod.bike runs perfect didnt felt any unusual thing.
Thanks in advance raux.keep me posted
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94' BRONCO 5.8 EB

ungeheuer

Quote from: Holden on May 29, 2009, 01:12:30 AM
Out of curiosityâ€"how cool can metal be and still ignite petrol?

NFI
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sroberts152

I've just been going through this thread.  I think I have an idea of everything I need - Just:

M6x8 (or M6x10)
Y Adapter

2 Questions:
What size on the Y adapter?
Did I miss anything?


Raux

Quote from: sroberts152 on July 14, 2009, 12:42:33 PM
I've just been going through this thread.  I think I have an idea of everything I need - Just:

M6x8 (or M6x10)
Y Adapter

2 Questions:
What size on the Y adapter?
Did I miss anything?



actually the hoses are different diameters. you may need an adapter. i bought a small kit with a bunch of y adapters and diameter adapters cheap at a autozone.

sroberts152

Quote from: Raux on July 14, 2009, 09:16:39 PM
actually the hoses are different diameters. you may need an adapter. i bought a small kit with a bunch of y adapters and diameter adapters cheap at a autozone.

Thank you.  :)  This just saved me the back and forth to Kragens a whole bunch of times.