WHAT DO I NEED IN ORDER TO 'FEDERALIZE' MY MONSTER 620?

Started by DarkMonster620, August 25, 2009, 06:36:14 PM

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DarkMonster620



Hi,

I need help in order to know what I need to replace, change or add to my Euro Spec motorcycle to bring it with me to the US? I'll be relocating to Florida within the next months.

Thanks
Carlos
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Gator

you are better off selling the bike and buy a new one when you get to the US.

EU emissions are more strict then most states (I don't know about Florida specifically) so I don't think your bike will have any trouble passing the emissions tests in the US.

Shipping and import tax and registration will cost you about as much in time and money as your bike is worth.




Howie

You will have two bureaucracies to deal with, the Feds and whatever state you move to.  You might be able to get by the feds if you bring the bike in as a tourist.  This should work in whatever state you live in.  Of course, this is temporary.  Once the bike is here you may be able to register it, depending on state, California will be difficult.  There are also people who import "grey market vehicles" (not US version) into the country.  The parts you will be missing are reflectors, carbon canister, and most important, US compliance labels. 

Latinbalar

The state of Florida (which i live), has no emission checks, however when ever you import it in the FED's may or may not check.  But if i am not mistaken the current Euro emission standards are either better or the same as the US standards in which you should be okay (if stock).

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redxblack

Quote from: 13 on August 26, 2009, 02:51:50 AM
you are better off selling the bike and buy a new one when you get to the US.


Or if you have a brother in the country of origin who will babysit your Duc, that also works out pretty well.

DarkMonster620

Quote from: 13 on August 26, 2009, 02:51:50 AM
you are better off selling the bike and buy a new one when you get to the US.

EU emissions are more strict then most states (I don't know about Florida specifically) so I don't think your bike will have any trouble passing the emissions tests in the US.
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Shipping and import tax and registration will cost you about as much in time and money as your bike is worth.


Quote from: Latinbalar on August 26, 2009, 06:28:05 AM
The state of Florida (which i live), has no emission checks, however when ever you import it in the FED's may or may not check.  But if i am not mistaken the current Euro emission standards are either better or the same as the US standards in which you should be okay (if stock).
+2 cents

Quote from: redxblack on August 26, 2009, 08:01:18 AM
Or if you have a brother in the country of origin who will babysit your Duc, that also works out pretty well.

>>>I love my M620D... only 13000kms or bout 6000mls....
>>> Have OEM Remus exhaust with cats...
>>> As said before, mods are basically cosmetic except for the hi
mount Termis
>>> A what???  didn't hear ya...It's me and my dog...
Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

justinrhenry

there are no inspections or emissions in florida at all.  all you need to do is get it past customs.

http://www.flhsmv.gov/
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ducatiz

You will have to take it thru a Registered Importer (RI).

You cannot get an American title /vin without it.  If you try to bring it in and bypass customs and get caught, it is a big deal (i.e. up to 10 years in the pen, and up to $250k fine)

Ducati is not often amenable to helping people do private imports.  THey used to.  Another fellow on this board is also trying to do a private import of his 620.

Here is the kicker -- only ONE bike (of a particular type) need to get thru.  Once that happens, then it is FAR easier for other bikes to get thru (of the same type).  Typically, what happens is someone imports (say) a 1998 model (say a 750SS).  Once that happens, all the other models that are identical (i.e. 1995 thru 1999) become "importable" because all the work's been done.

That being said, no one has ever imported a 620 (its in the federal register). 
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redxblack


ducatiz

Quote from: redxblack on August 26, 2009, 07:25:40 PM
so when is someone going to import a m400 already?


i would love to see that

but the cost of having it run thru an RI and standardized for EPA/NHTSA would probably run 3-5  grand

the epa testing is the worst part $ wise
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

redxblack

I'd never pony up the cash to do it, but if we could get a stream of 400s in the states, there's a non-zero chance I might get to buy one.

ducatiz

Fyi to my knowledge the bike in factory form will pass epa regs.  That means all stock everything.

For nhtsa it needs fork and rear side reflectors.  Reflector tape is fine, they must be 1.5 x 3 inches.  Odo in miles.
If the bike has a rhd headlight it must be swapped for lhd

The off switch on the headlight must be removed or disabled.

That's about it.

But it is the paperwork that is murder
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Raux

honestly, sell the 620. keep the parts you added and bring them with you. buy another monster in the states. your bank account will thank you.