My first tip-over, can I fix it?

Started by smilingbear, October 12, 2009, 09:52:32 AM

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Quote from: sroberts152 on October 12, 2009, 01:18:29 PM
It would take more than a tip over to do any real damage to the gearbox.

That's partially true.  It would take more than a tip over to any real damage to the gears.  The shifter pawl springs, however, are another matter.  You'll want to replace the bent parts, then recheck the mechanism to make sure it's centering after shifting.  There are springs that center the shifter pawl and they can be damaged more easily than you think.  A friend with a 1098 just replaced his after it spontaneously broke without assistance from a tipover.

It's probably OK...and the springs are easy to replace, and really inexpensive, so don't sweat it either way.  Just check the shifting action when you've replaced the bent rod and shifter.

Quote from: smilingbear on October 12, 2009, 12:57:30 PM

Do I need to do this process for the clutch?  I've never opened the master cylinder reservoirs, can't I hurt things by opening that up?  Like get air in the system?

Smilingbear...the only way to top off your fluids (which is required maintenance!!) is to open those reservoirs.  You can't introduce air by opening the tops...however you can introduce air by not topping off.  The danger is that the air within the reservoirs might get pulled into the pumps (master cylinders, if you like) if the fluid levels get too low.  BTW....air in the system isn't the end of the world, either, as long as you're not riding when you discover it.  Bleeding is another topic, but it's quite easy, and every motorcycle owner should know how to do it.
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dan-o

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Hey smilingbear
sorry to hear about the tip over, you didn't hurt the tail fairing did you? :D  Need the matching gloss black fly screen now? I have one for sale. Give me a shout if you need anything, I have just finished reassembling a totaled M800Sie.  
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smilingbear

Quote from: dan-o on October 14, 2009, 02:20:16 PM
Hey smilingbear
sorry to hear about the tip over, you didn't hurt the tail fairing did you? :D  Need the matching gloss black fly screen now? I have one for sale. Give me a shout if you need anything, I have just finished reassembling a totaled M800Sie. 
dan

Thanks Dan, I was just about to install the tail fairing when the bike tipped over.  Way to turn a fun event into a downer!  I didn't hurt it, and as soon as I get the bent shifter and broken clutch issue sorted out I'm going to put the tail fairing on.

I'll let you know about the windscreen - we'll have to see what it looks like with the tail fairing on before I buy some more kit.

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Quote from: corey on October 15, 2009, 06:52:27 AM
For the OP:
Ebay Seller has an S2R rear brake lever up for sale right now, just needs the rubber toe cover off your old one:
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Corey, you're really helpful - finding and providing a link and all [thumbsup]



(too bad it's the sfift lever the OP needs  [laugh]



FWIW - I was serious about the helpful effort!
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There is a clutch lever for sale on the "other" ducati web site, they are asking $40, It is super easy to replace it
dan

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Quote from: dan-o on October 15, 2009, 01:54:33 PM
There is a clutch lever for sale on the "other" ducati web site, they are asking $40, It is super easy to replace it
dan
$40!? Man that's a rip off. If I recall correctly CA-Cyleworks has levers for $12-15
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
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Take a good look at the steering stem lugs wot limit the forks turning too far. Unlikely too be damaged in a dropover, but worth a check. Your handlebars may also have bent a little.
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Quote from: stopintime on October 12, 2009, 11:09:25 AM
You can at least TRY to bend the gear lever and rod back.

As stated previously, it is best if you heat the aluminum before you try to bend it back into shape. I have a commercial heat gun and have bent some really nasty looking levers that almost everyone would have swore was going to break. Heat is your friend. A hair dryer can help a bit, too.

Quote from: smilingbear on October 12, 2009, 12:57:30 PM
And they all make sense, up until this section:

This is a method to ensure that the piston in the master cylinder is fully retracting in order to let fluid back into the reservoir. If the return hole is blocked or pratially blocked, you can run across the situation where the brake will pump up, not release, and you'll go sliding down the road on your keister because your brake locked up on you. There is a guy over on the ducati.ms forum who just had that happen to him with his 998.

Quote from: smilingbear on October 12, 2009, 05:53:13 PM
I tried to loosen that fastener on the end of the shift lever and it's pretty damn hard to turn with an allen wrench.

Ducati ususally used blue Locktite on this bolt to prevent it from vibrating loose. It probably will be a bit difficult to loosen without a hex-socket and a rachet. Once, again, heat may help you loosen this. ;)

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