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Started by junior varsity, November 16, 2009, 06:46:06 AM

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Dave R

#30
November 17, 2009, 11:16:12 AM
Here's a chart comparing a 996 with an 848 same day, same dyno.  The 996 has slip ons the 848 was fairly new and stock

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junior varsity

#31
November 17, 2009, 11:38:52 AM
Big difference in torque, and I'd like to do a back to back ride to see if you could feel the substantial looking change in how early the power comes on with the 996.

ducpainter

#32
November 17, 2009, 12:22:02 PM
I haven't ridden an 848, but I can say the power on a 996 doesn't 'come on'.

It's just there all the time.

It makes it easy to ride.
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junior varsity

#33
November 17, 2009, 12:26:22 PM
That's kinda what I meant, the 848's graph doesn't show that kind of immediate oomph

Triple J

#34
November 17, 2009, 12:35:44 PM
The 848 definitely has a power spike at 8K rpms. It is very noticeable.

MadDuck

#35
November 17, 2009, 09:18:50 PM
Quote from: ato memphis on November 17, 2009, 11:38:52 AM
Big difference in torque, and I'd like to do a back to back ride to see if you could feel the substantial looking change in how early the power comes on with the 996.

Big difference in torque and HP, esp. in the midrange.  I don't know that it makes the 996 exactly easier to ride unless you are saying you have to work the 848 that much harder to keep up with a 996. True that, to a degree. Easier to go faster with a 996, yup. Is the 996 a totally better balanced package? Personally, I really can't say, but I'd love to find out. I don't have any seat time in one of those, yet. I can say that even after lots of tweaking it was still overall harder to ride the 999 than the 848. The 999 loved to go fast but it demanded a lot more attention and was less forgiving, if you know what I mean.
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ducpainter

#36
November 18, 2009, 01:29:23 AM
Quote from: mac900 on November 17, 2009, 09:18:50 PM
Big difference in torque and HP, esp. in the midrange.  I don't know that it makes the 996 exactly easier to ride unless you are saying you have to work the 848 that much harder to keep up with a 996. True that, to a degree. Easier to go faster with a 996, yup. Is the 996 a totally better balanced package? Personally, I really can't say, but I'd love to find out. I don't have any seat time in one of those, yet. I can say that even after lots of tweaking it was still overall harder to ride the 999 than the 848. The 999 loved to go fast but it demanded a lot more attention and was less forgiving, if you know what I mean.
What I was saying is because of the ample power everywhere you can just ride the 996 without paying much attention to rpms. If the thing is running it's making power.

If you exit a corner a gear too high just open the throttle more.
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MadDuck

#37
November 18, 2009, 06:38:38 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on November 18, 2009, 01:29:23 AM
What I was saying is because of the ample power everywhere you can just ride the 996 without paying much attention to rpms. If the thing is running it's making power.

If you exit a corner a gear too high just open the throttle more.

Got that 100% the first time.  [thumbsup]  For the most part therein lies the attraction of the big bores. As much as I love the 848 I also love the big bikes. Had saddle time on a 1098 & 1198 and owned that 999 for almost 2 years. Just saying that the big guys can be a bit of a handful to ride at times.  [moto]  (Another semi-perverse attraction  ;D)
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It's all up to your will level, your thrill level and your skill level.  Everything else is just fluff.

derby

#38
November 18, 2009, 06:44:56 AM
Quote from: mac900 on November 18, 2009, 06:38:38 AM
...big guys can be a bit of a handful to ride at times.  [moto]  (Another semi-perverse attraction  ;D)

i'm quoting this out of context just for fun.
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#39
November 18, 2009, 06:58:55 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on November 17, 2009, 12:22:02 PM
I haven't ridden an 848, but I can say the power on a 996 doesn't 'come on'.

It's just there all the time.

It makes it easy to ride.
Big +1
I've ridden 848's, and that's what's missing - the big grunt you get out of the 996.
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