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Yellow Meanie
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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2010, 03:13:39 PM »

Dannog, here's the plan so far:

Buy sprockets, chain and flywheel.
Install sprockets and chain as soon as I get home.
Wait for some crap weather (I live in Tassie, so I'm sure to get at least a few days worth at some stage) then install the flywheel myself.
This first "stage" will be done in my next 6 weeks off. Glad I don't have a "normal" job  cheeky
Parts: $ 478 Au (+ postage), plus up to $200 for fork rebuild.


2nd stage:
Chop airbox and install PC3. I will most likely buy the PC3 with the other parts.
A little more research is required here, but I can't see any problems with installation. Just not entirely sure what it will sound like  Undecided
The PC3 will come with a "generic" map I believe - which should be enough to ride to the dyno.
Costs: PC3  $335
         Dyno $200 - $300 I have no idea really???

2nd stage will most likely be done towards the end of my time off. Unless the weather really turns to shit, and I can't ride anyway...


3rd stage:
Pistons, bore and replate, then another dyno. I spose I'm looking at another grand here...
This will happen June / July at the earliest. Winter in Tassie is not the best time of year for riding anyway  Wink





Who knows, I might be happy enough with the extra "poke" from the gearing and flywheel... Grin

Or I might not...  Evil


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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2010, 03:39:16 PM »

I found you can improvise a bit on the forks and I didn't need any spring compressor, theres really not that much tension once the top screw is loosened. (I did the original forks seals on the monster as well as the seals on the ohlins I fitted now)

I've been buying engine bits for a few years. I get em when cheep or when I can  justify the cost, with the intention of doing it all in one hit.
It all started with a 984 kit from ebay/brad black, probably about 4 years ago. I had the pistons ceramic coated and a low friction coating on the skirts.
I got another set of engine cases for $150 from ebay and bored them to fit the skirts of the BB kit. I've also modded them so's that the oil jet for under piston cooling reaches the piston for 360deg (standard only see's 180deg because of the crankshaft)
I also got a cheap set of heads that I've had ported, and ceramic coated combustion chamber, also veetwo 210 cams for em,
The heads and barrels have been coated with a heats transfer coating (black) and I've lightened the flywheel and balance a crank I got cheep.
Pretty much the only other thing I want to do is have the engine cases powder coated black before building the engine
All up I reckon its cost me about $3000/4000 (tho I havn't 'really' added up the costs) because I've done most of the work myself. And, I'll end up with spare heads, cases and flywheel!
I'll doo a write up some day, I'm slack and off work at the moment, (that why I've got the time to write this   Grin )
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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2010, 04:36:38 PM »

Like I thought.... its big money.

Dave, looks like you plan has legs and can all be done in short bursts. make sure your taking the bike to someone who knows how to turn the PC3.

You'll notice a HUGE difference with the new 14t sprocket change.

The open air box will also make the Thylacine raw like a Lion!

both these are easy upgrades

The flywheel is a bit more technical and you can stuff things up.... (technical term)

It'd be good to stage these changes so you can see the affect each one has.

I think once you get these done spending money on the suspension is the way to go. That'll allow you to ride it a lot harder and have much more confidence. Yours forks are adjustable so maybe having the values upgraded and springs swapped out will help up front. Your rear is OEM Ohlins isn't it?
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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2010, 05:24:18 PM »

What else am I gonna spend my money on? The mortgage? A new car? I think not!  laughingdp

There is a bloke here in Hobart "Red" who seems to have a good rep. And possibly the only Dyno in town...
Then again, Melbourne is only a short ferry ride away.

The flywheel doesn't worry me. I've been pulling things apart and putting them back together for years quite successfully. As long as I have the right tools and information I'm confident. If I was going to go as far as Monsta Shocked I would definitely be seeing a professional! Unless he does a detailed enough write up of course  Wink

Yes as stated, my suspension does require some attention. Forks are Showa adjustable, the rear is Ohlins. At the very least, the forks will be re-oiled and most likely re-valved too. Then set-up correctly. I haven't done enough experimenting / note taking with regards to suspension set-up as I should have. I'll definitely do this before going too much further.

And more courses too, because the extra grunt wont mean squat if I can't ride  Roll Eyes laughingdp
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« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2010, 07:17:35 PM »

When I looked at this it was going to cost a lot more than $600. 2 pull down the motor means that you'll be spending anything up to a grand so the staged approach seamed like an expensive way to go, not to mention the time involved. These guys in the eastern states only ride half the year so they have plenty of time in the 'off season' for these mods.



hmmm, i didn't say the job would cost $600, i said the piston kit was $600. you seem to have more hang ups about the cost of modifying meanies bike than he does.
I;m probably in the minority here but i'd suggest going up on the rear sprocket rather than down on the front, yes, it's cheaper, if the cost of the sprocket is the only "cost" you're looking at, but the extra wear on the output bearing, chain and chain guide due to the tighter radius more than outweighs the benefit IMHO. i would definitely go up 3 on the rear with a new chain.

paul.
p.s, just who are "these guys in the eastern states"? and what makes you think we only ride half the year?
You should have a look at costs to shoe horn in a second hand 1000DS engine. Do the pistons, cams and anything else you want when its on the bench and then swap over. I dont know what a second hand engine would cost here but might be worth looking into.
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« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2010, 07:41:03 PM »

Paul,      I certainly bow to your expertise on this and stand corrected. waytogo

eastern states was reference to USA (not here in Oz) we ride all year round with our fine weather [moto] [moto]

it looks like I do have a few hang ups  Cry..... I got all excited about mods to my 900ie but the $$ were just way too easy to spend.

Its great to see you have your priorities sorted Dave  Grin Grin

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« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2010, 11:41:46 PM »

it's all good,
i was a little lost on the eastern states bit but i get it now, especially with the weather they've been shovelling aside lately! and modifying anything motorised is expensive but dukes? i'm sure it's been said here before but a coke habit is cheaper and easier to support!

paul.
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                                              93 888 RS
                                              09 1098R BAYLISS
                                              07 Husqvarna TE 450

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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2010, 02:17:53 AM »

I don't have much experience with coke...... (well any really)

but I sure get a 'rush' riding my duc  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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