What shocks fit S2R1000?

Started by vaclav, January 06, 2009, 04:29:12 PM

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TAftonomos

Quote from: =P on January 08, 2009, 07:33:22 PM
I am trying to figure out why Ivan did not have the linkage interference problem that Speeddog mentions in this thread: http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=16988.0. Granted Speeddog is talking about a S4R rather than a S2R 1000. Is the layout of the rear components really any different between the two models?

Read my reply + deductive reasoning = answer.

vaclav

Ivan's bike has a Penske. In the thread I linked, Speeddog discusses issues he had with Penskes. Since none of your replies have anything to do with Penske's (except mentioning a price in the first one), I don't know WTF you want me to deduce.

Speeddog

Quote from: =P on January 08, 2009, 07:33:22 PM
I am trying to figure out why Ivan did not have the linkage interference problem that Speeddog mentions in this thread: http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=16988.0. Granted Speeddog is talking about a S4R rather than a S2R 1000. Is the layout of the rear components really any different between the two models?

AFAIK, the rockers and geometry are the same.

Possibly Ivan's Penske came with the longer top eye, which the Penske that my customer got *didn't* have.
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Ivan


Sorry, I can't add anything regarding why mine fit and the other didn't.  I had no clearance problems with the upper part of the linkage.  I assume that Speeddog is correct in that there are two different lengths for the upper eye.  If you want to buy one, just speak with the folks at Penske to make sure that they understand the issues.  You could always point them to the thread that shows the pictures....
Sold: 2007 S2R1000 for canyon carving and commuting - DP ECU, PCIII, BMC air filter with open box, Zard full exhaust, Race-tech fork internals, Ohlins steering damper, and a Penske 8987 triple clicker

2000 996XU (extra ugly) for track days - BST carbon wheels, Ohlins shock, reworked fork, FBF exhaust, and a bunch of megacycle rocker arms. The rest of it is junk - Hey, I'm just happy that it runs...

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vaclav

Yeah maybe they corrected the problem before you got yours Ivan. Thanks everybody for the good information. Sounds like there just haven't been that many aftermarket shocks installed on the S2R 1000 yet. I think I will start with getting the right spring on the stock shock. Does anybody have any experience with this? I sent an email to RaceTech to see what they had for my weight (200 lbs).  I have already changed the fork springs. Thanks to Speeddog for the tips on making them fit right.

Speeddog

The RaceTech online spring rate calculator is FUBAR for Monsters, it's just wrong.

At 200 lbs with no gear, you need a spring of about 11.2 kg/mm.

RaceTech has 10.7 and 11.6 springs.
Depending on how you ride, what your roads are like, how you want the bike to feel, etc. will determine which one you would need.

I can set up your shock if you like, feel free to call me or PM.
Or you can have a local suspension guy set it up.
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BK_856er

Quote from: Ivan on January 10, 2009, 08:02:39 AM
Sorry, I can't add anything regarding why mine fit and the other didn't.  I had no clearance problems with the upper part of the linkage.  I assume that Speeddog is correct in that there are two different lengths for the upper eye.  If you want to buy one, just speak with the folks at Penske to make sure that they understand the issues.  You could always point them to the thread that shows the pictures....

I'm the guy with the M695 fitment problems mentioned above.  Penske is currently reworking my shock per Speeddog's info.  I sent them the pics and they understand the issues.  They recognized the longer top eyelet as the "1098" eyelet.  It was hard to tell from Ivan's pics if his shock had this slightly longer top eyelet.  Mine was the first M695 shock they had built.  I'll update my original thread after things get sorted out.  The lead guy to talk to at Penske is Mike Himmelsbach (also a very accomplished longtime racer).  I would not hesitate to go the Penske route.  I also have their triple clicker on my 749s and it's a very nice shock.

BK

jwoconnor

Thought I'd restart this thread because I just picked up an '06 749s shock for the S2R1000. Where is the best place to go for a new spring. I'm 185-190lbs. no track days and not many curves in the mid-west. I would think the 749s Showa is the regular 999 Showa?
2007 BMW R1200GS Adventure
2006 S2R1000

aaronb

IIRC, i bought my eibach from some company that specializes in off road dune buggy parts, but i do not remember where.  much cheaper than an MC site. 
Milwaukee, WI
'07 s2r1k, '81 honda cb400t

He Man

if you dont have the tools to swap the spring. then your best bet is to just go to a shop and have them order it for you, then let the mswap it out.

the 749s model is the same as the base 999 showa. the regular 749 is a sachs unit.

did you do your front end yet? you will notice a better ride in the rear, but you wont notice a huge improvement until you do your forks too.


jwoconnor

Quote from: He Man on January 16, 2010, 02:21:01 AM
if you dont have the tools to swap the spring. then your best bet is to just go to a shop and have them order it for you, then let the mswap it out.

the 749s model is the same as the base 999 showa. the regular 749 is a sachs unit.

did you do your front end yet? you will notice a better ride in the rear, but you wont notice a huge improvement until you do your forks too.



My buddy has a shop so spring removal is covered. I thought about springing front and rear at the same time though I'm still a bit confused about spring rates front and back...
Anything has to be better than that non-adjustable sachs I have now. Where is a good place to get springs?
2007 BMW R1200GS Adventure
2006 S2R1000

He Man

what kind of shock spring do you want? Traxxion dynamics, ebachs, ohlins....just go to your dealership and bring that showa spring. they usually have a few springs on hand.

jwoconnor

I don't have a dealership I do business with and there isn't a dealer close to me. No one I would let touch my bike nor any component from my bike.
2007 BMW R1200GS Adventure
2006 S2R1000

yotogi

I am surprised no one mentioned the Ohlins DU321.

http://www.ohlins.com/Our-products/Motorcycle/Products/Sport/DU-321/

I have one and find it a great upgrade over stock.