Is a battery just a battery??

Started by KrakHor9, March 30, 2010, 04:19:46 PM

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TAftonomos

Quote from: Bizzarrini on March 31, 2010, 10:11:14 AM
Cool idea! If you put 4 in series, that gives 13,2 V. Would this do any damage to the bike? And can you use your alternator to charge them withoud mods?
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If anyone is interested in going in with me and buying a BUNCH of cells, OR, if you would like to buy cells individually from me, please PM me and let me know.  I was interested in buying 50-100 of these cells in the near future, but $$ is tight right now so I was going to wait it out.  I also fly RC heli's and getting into electric planes, which is why I need more batteries...

Bizzarrini

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Do you have an example? Can't find anything that clarifies it. Most seem to be 1.2V? Do you use AA, or is there a better size?
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Bizzarrini

Ah ok, you mean something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-12-Pcs-A123-3-2v-2300-mah-Lithium-Ion-Battery-Cell_W0QQitemZ370357591117QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item563b085c4d

I guess 12.8V would be ok? and 18,4 Ah isn't bad either! How about peak current, for starting the engine? 120 Amps peak discharge, but because 4 are parallel, would that mean a peak current of 480 A? And charging with the alternator no prob?
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KrakHor9

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TAftonomos

Quote from: Bizzarrini on March 31, 2010, 10:59:06 AM
Ah ok, you mean something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-12-Pcs-A123-3-2v-2300-mah-Lithium-Ion-Battery-Cell_W0QQitemZ370357591117QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item563b085c4d

I guess 12.8V would be ok? and 18,4 Ah isn't bad either! How about peak current, for starting the engine? 120 Amps peak discharge, but because 4 are parallel, would that mean a peak current of 480 A? And charging with the alternator no prob?

Those are the ones.  8 cell for a street bike.  Not a lot of battery charging taking place low in the revs.  Might need a 16 cell to start a REALLY high (static) C/R bike.  My KTM lives on a 4 cell batt.  Auction is perfect for me, one battery for the project bike, one spare for the KTM  [thumbsup]

PhoenixS4R

So, these batteries recharge without modification to electrical system on a bike?

I've wired up enough RC packs to do this w/o a problem. I think.



TAftonomos

The bike doesn't drain them down to nothing like a plane/copter/car/etc would.  The big drain is on startup, thats about it.

8 cell pack is there because there isn't a lot of charging that goes on under 4k, and on a streetbike that is a decent amount of time.  Race bikes can get away with a smaller battery as they are turning high RPM's all the time + no lights, etc..  Of course, total loss systems should be figured out based on draw, time on track, and then build or select the most appropriate battery.