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Re: Mugello GP Spoiler
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"The torque curve was better but had some malfunctions and the bike wouldn't do the same thing consistently. It's much more important to be able to predict the bike's behaviour when you ride on the limit, and Casey is always on the limit."
This is a key statement as well.
Sounds like they out-tricked themselves.
If the bike is making changes to variables that the rider can't sense, it's going to feel inconsistent.
Then the rider loses trust in his machine.
Even if a bike reacts badly to a particular situation, as long as it does it repeatably, a good rider will work around the problem.
It's why I never enjoyed riding horses.
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Not going to open up a whole can of worms but you would think that with issues of this magnitude, it wouldn't have taken them 6 races into the season to take drastic action. And vowing to help 6 races into the season means little. They were having issues in preseason testing...just sayin'.
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Quote from: ZLTFUL on June 04, 2008, 01:34:37 PM
Not going to open up a whole can of worms but you would think that with issues of this magnitude, it wouldn't have taken them 6 races into the season to take drastic action. And vowing to help 6 races into the season means little. They were having issues in preseason testing...just sayin'.
Enjoy your lunch.
really it's not my mission in life to argue with you
and on this one you're, mostly, absolutely right.
however, remember that *everything* about a successful ride is a very, VERY complex balancing act. there are so many moving parts, both literally and figuratively, that one little change here can have an unknown waterfall effect on something else way down the line. if they aren't super careful and deliberate with everything they do it's real easy to get real lost. drastic changes are by definition a last resort.
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Oh I know about the balancing act. I spent 6 seasons racing WERA and CCS endurance races. It wasn't fun when we couldn't get things dialed in when you had 4 6 or 8 hours a race to do it. But we were able to get things to a point where we weren't fighting just to come in last. Hehe.
I just think Ducati could have done alot better overall.
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Quote from: ZLTFUL on June 04, 2008, 02:41:36 PM
Oh I know about the balancing act. I spent 6 seasons racing WERA and CCS endurance races. It wasn't fun when we couldn't get things dialed in when you had 4 6 or 8 hours a race to do it. But we were able to get things to a point where we weren't fighting just to come in last. Hehe.
I just think Ducati could have done alot better overall.
sunday sprints were always more fun after a saturday endurance.
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Quote from: derby on June 04, 2008, 03:21:18 PM
sunday springs were always more fun after a saturday endurance.
I always preferred sprints to springs, but that's just me
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I always preferred sprints to springs, but that's just me
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