Is the rectifier/regulator really as crude as it looks?

Started by suzyj, May 05, 2010, 04:45:00 PM

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accrocker

For what its worth, Electrosport is going/has gone under, and is in the process of being sold off. Another source for reliable voltage regulators would be great right now.
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Speeddog

http://www.electrosport.com/

From the home page:

ElectroSport is operating under new ownership and has moved to a new facility:

ElectroSport
66 Maxwell
Irvine, CA 92618

Phone: (949) 748-6338
Fax: (949) 748-6339
email: info@electrosport.com

We are in the process of launching a brand new website and our existing online ordering system will not be available until the new website launches.

Please call in any orders or tech support questions on (949) 748-6338

We apologize for the inconvenience and we look forward to serving you from our new location!

Happy riding,

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ducpainter

Quote from: accrocker on June 20, 2010, 11:13:26 AM
For what its worth, Electrosport is going/has gone under, and is in the process of being sold off. Another source for reliable voltage regulators would be great right now.
I used a Ricks Regulator on my 96.

Charge light works correctly and everything.

http://www.ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/
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suzyj

Quote from: dbran1949 on September 28, 2010, 02:01:45 PM
Suzyj
Did you ever build one of these?

Not yet.  It's on my to-do list, when it comes time to replace my battery.


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Ddan

If you left your headlight on for a few nights we could get this going      ;D
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Moronic

There is a great recent post here on ducati.ms about solving Duc regulator issues by going to a MOSFET unit.

Thread title:  "The upgrade fix >> no more charging/regulator/rectifier problems"

from the post:

QuoteThe two biggest benefits provided by mosfet RR's is that they provide improved output and do not get as hot.

Unit chosen is a Yamaha part, from the R1 sport bike, manufactured by Shindengen of Japan.

There is a lot of info there, including how to upgrade connectors and wiring, with links to other relevant posts etc.

May or may not be of help to the OP. But good explanations for a project to fix this generic Ducati deficiency.


greenmonster

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Thx f info, moronic! [thumbsup]

Would be great if susyj or someone else knowledgeable could confirm that this fix really works.
And explain why..... ;)
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suzyj

Quote from: greenmonster on October 05, 2010, 05:26:30 PM
Would be great if susyj or someone elde knowledgeable could confirm that this fix really works.
And explain why..... ;)

I can't.  Saying a r/r has a mosfet in it is like saying an engine has valves.  It's completely meaningless.  I could build a r/r with mosfets that would catch fire in minutes.  Similarly, I could build one using diodes and a zener that would never fail.  It all depends on the ratings of the parts used.

Unfortunately, all these things are gooped up black boxes, so there's absolutely no way of knowing what's inside.


2007 Monster 695 with a few mods.
2013 Piaggio Typhoon 50 2 stroke speed demon.

Speeddog

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suzy

google ripperton battery

he is around on a few forums i read and has been playing with those batteries in a variety of ways for a while

might be a good person to chat with on your ideas
i dont care if you have been a mechanic for 10 years doing something for a long time does not make you good at it, take my gf for an example shes been walking for 28 years and still manages to fall over all the time.

floyd turbo

Quote from: suzyj on October 05, 2010, 07:57:31 PM


Unfortunately, all these things are gooped up black boxes, so there's absolutely no way of knowing what's inside.

silly suzy everyone knows they are filled with smoke

greenmonster

M900 -97 
MTS 1100s  -07

Moronic

Quote from: suzyj on October 05, 2010, 07:57:31 PM
I can't.  Saying a r/r has a mosfet in it is like saying an engine has valves.  It's completely meaningless. 

But wouldn't that be true also of saying an engine has titanium valves? Any advantage still depends on how they are used. OTOH, engine builders going to the trouble of using them seem to use them well (for all we know).

I understand your point, which of course is mainly that you can't confirm the Shindengen unit is better than what we already have.

Nevertheless, the author of the post did cite a fair bit of research and linked to posts from other people with different bikes who had done the same mod.

Granted, no clear evidence yet that the new MOSFET regulator lasts longer than what it replaces.

Perhaps I've just unwarranted faith in modern Japanese electronics.

Nevertheless, it still looks to me like a promising avenue, until you get around to your fix for us.   :)