Showa vs Marzocchi: Teach me please

[jvax]

The same day I got my new M796 I find out that next year's model will have a Marzocchi front fork instead of the Showa.

I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten me as to what the difference between the two is.

[Moronic]

Yours is made by a Japanese company, Marzocchi is based in Italy.

Apart from that, I doubt anybody knows at this point.

Both companies can make superb suspension - with Showa possibly having an edge from their MotoGP work.

Both also make cheap junk.

So it is really a matter of what Ducati has ordered for the model.

[Kopfjager]

It would depend if your forks are adjustable, or not. They both make good forks.

[Howie]

Marzzochi forks were used on some of the monsters in the past.  The forks were fine from a quality standpoint.  The problem was all you could reasonably change on them was springs and weight oil because the cartridges were swedged in.  Same on the new ones?  Dunno.

[Duc796canada]

Marzzochi forks were used on some of the monsters in the past.  The forks were fine from a quality standpoint.  The problem was all you could reasonably change on them was springs and weight oil because the cartridges were swedged in.  Same on the new ones?  Dunno.

Sorry, do you mean to tell me the Showas on the monster, one can't change the valving stack up etc? Or did you refer o the old Marczochis? Thanks.

[ducpainter]

Sorry, do you mean to tell me the Showas on the monster, one can't change the valving stack up etc? Or did you refer o the old Marczochis? Thanks.

The Marzocchis...There are some companies that make complete innards for them, but the cost is much higher than gold valves for the Showas.

[Howie]

Sorry, do you mean to tell me the Showas on the monster, one can't change the valving stack up etc? Or did you refer o the old Marczochis? Thanks.

Answered by dp.

[Duc796canada]

Cool, I do want to revalve the Showas on my 796, you mentioned gold valves from race tech?

[ducpainter]

Cool, I do want to revalve the Showas on my 796, you mentioned gold valves from race tech?

Yes...

From my experience the stack recommended by them is pretty harsh for 'real world' roads.

If you have a suspension guy in your area don't be surprised if he recommends a different stack.

[jwoconnor]

Both can make good suspension though I have heard of more issues with Marzocchi than Showa from an OEM standpoint.

[brad black]

the 40mm marzocchi used in 600 and 750 ss and monster models up to '99 or so were the ones without removable cartridges.  later marzocchi i've seen or had apart have cartridges afaicr.

[Raux]

i will be curious to know if the new marzocchi on the 696/796 will have identical forks or have the one and one of the 696 showas.

[ungeheuer]

i will be curious to know if the new marzocchi on the 696/796 will have identical forks or have the one and one of the 696 showas.

According to this >>  http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/10/the-2011-ducati-model-update-cheat-sheet/  <<  the 696 will get 43mm Marzocchis.  No mention of Showas anywhere.

[Raux]

no i meant are the marzocchis going to match the showa internals. ie one shock two different size springs

[ducpainter]

no i meant are the marzocchis going to match the showa internals. ie one shock two different size springs

They never have before...

I doubt they'd start now...but who knows?