Bad night for ML's neighbors

[ducpainter]

or you can have a house like mine made from some wood from hell that termites die if they try to eat it, gives me a headache if I cut it and probably doesn't burn too well.

Nate's house is probably made of the same stuff and it will kill us all when we burn it.

Nah...

I had to cure the barn of powder post beetles...

and what I trimmed out burned great.

We'll not be burning the house. 

[mitt]

Still looks like the kitchen is not required for afci's, and up until when I stopped being a wire monkey there was still language in the code that exempted dedicated single receptacle circuits, like for a fridge or freezer, in the kitchen or basement from gfci's.

They may have changed it, but I'll ask the inspector. He's the only one that matters.

I didn't word my post very well.  The fridge in the Kitchen can be on a dedicated non gfci non afci circuit.  A fridge or freezer in the basement or garage is now technically supposed to be on gfci.

Soon, mfg's will create dual mode breakers with both afci and gfci function and every 120V outlet in the house will have them, we are just not there yet since the two detection methods use different means.


mitt

[ducpainter]

I didn't word my post very well.  The fridge in the Kitchen can be on a dedicated non gfci non afci circuit.  A fridge or freezer in the basement or garage is now technically supposed to be on gfci.

Soon, mfg's will create dual mode breakers with both afci and gfci function and every 120V outlet in the house will have them, we are just not there yet since the two detection methods use different means.


mitt

It will be a long time before they convince electricians judging from the thoughts of the ones I know.

The fact that the exemption still exists in the kitchen validates those thoughts IMO.

[Doctor Woodrow]

As far as I remember here in Washington its basically AFCI in all Bedrooms, and GFCI in all kitchen circuits except dedicated circuits (fridge, disposal) and GFCI in all bathroom plugs in a bathroom (it might be within 6 feet of a sink or tub, but most bathrooms are small enough that it ends up being all of them anyways). I'm too lazy to check right now.

The Doc

[slowpoke13]

I got a ~ 600 sq ft, 1/2 br place and have 4 extinguishers (and am well versed on their use). One in the bedroom closet (I've kept one in every bedroom closet of every house I've lived in. Good, easy reference point), one under the bathroom sink, one under the kitchen sink, and one next to the fireplace. Oddly enough, in this house, that means I can reach one within 20 paces of wherever I'm standing and from each other. Likely a bit overkill. But, I had a couple extra from the last house in Japan.

I just need one for the jeep. But, needs to be non-corrosive enough to sit outside all the time and deal with salt air.

I'm still in the process of swapping out the bathroom and kitchen receptacles with approved ones.