Wow... I need this. Seriously, I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed this...

Started by BellissiMoto, February 22, 2011, 09:10:06 PM

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Latinbalar

If you look closely at the front picture there is a CV joint. And i am assuming that there is steering linkage on the other side.  And I am sure that having AWD on a bike would be awesome as long as there is a computer system managing traction front and rear.  Like riding down hill would be easier.

But again great in concept but a motorcycle is a designed for being light. Going this route is counter intuitive. 
I live vicariously thru myself......

He Man

Quote from: Latinbalar on February 23, 2011, 06:53:21 PM
If you look closely at the front picture there is a CV joint. And i am assuming that there is steering linkage on the other side.  And I am sure that having AWD on a bike would be awesome as long as there is a computer system managing traction front and rear.  Like riding down hill would be easier.

But again great in concept but a motorcycle is a designed for being light. Going this route is counter intuitive. 

that wouldnt work. the bike would ride lop sided once you fired the rocket.

Best to have 2 machine guns and a mini rocket in place of a headlight.
or to have 2 rockets on each side that fire simultaneously for extra kaboom.

jvax

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Triple J

Quote from: He Man on February 23, 2011, 05:33:40 PM
Low sides happen because lost of traction, either from spinning the front up to fast, or from slowing it down to much.
i think the same concept falls into play as in the rear wheel, so dont hit the gas too hard?

But then a rear wheel slide is managable, the front isnt. So it works, but applicable in racing? probably not.




Low sides happen because the available traction at the front wheel is exceeded, either thru cornering force or braking (although Spidey was talking about cornering force). I'm not sure what you mean by "spinning the front up too fast"??

Anyway, I think what Spidey is getting at is the front wheel is only responsible for cornering (or braking) traction, not acceleration. Adding another responsibility (i.e. acceleration) for the available traction would reduce the amount of traction available for cornering...hence lowsides.

Raux

an interesting feature would be a gyroscopic differential that determines the lean angle to determine how much power if any if sent to the front wheel.

He Man

Quote from: Triple J on February 24, 2011, 09:17:34 AM
Low sides happen because the available traction at the front wheel is exceeded, either thru cornering force or braking (although Spidey was talking about cornering force). I'm not sure what you mean by "spinning the front up too fast"??

Anyway, I think what Spidey is getting at is the front wheel is only responsible for cornering (or braking) traction, not acceleration. Adding another responsibility (i.e. acceleration) for the available traction would reduce the amount of traction available for cornering...hence lowsides.

Im saying exactly what your saying, if your in a regular bike, if you lose traction by going off the edge or by too much brake (tire slowing down faster than available grip). If your on an AWD bike, you might be accelerating and theres not enough traction to accelerate also causing a low side, so as long as you manage the front as you manage the rear tire you should techincaly be fine. I think.