Woodcraft clip-on review

[stopintime]

Doesn't Rizoma make an upper triple/clip on combo that .......

You didn't even have to dig very deep, it was mentioned a couple of times in this thread...
Rough night? 

[mendoje]

Just for reference, M800, SBK forks (1" above triple), Cycle Cat clip-ons (2-1/2" from bottom of clamp to center of handlebar),
Stock Height 
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=27788.0

If a person were to do an SBK swap, given those forks are longer than stock and will protrude an extra 35mm or so above the top triple(if keeping the stock geometry), I wonder how much rise one would need to get to stock height with the clipons mounted above the triple, and how many mms one would need to raise the forks on top of that to get adequate clamping area   I suppose there's only one way to find out.

[stopintime]

Just for reference, M800, SBK forks (1" above triple), Cycle Cat clip-ons (2-1/2" from bottom of clamp to center of handlebar),
Stock Height 
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=27788.0

Hmmm... maybe, but just maybe - and only if the clip on bars, as it seems, are adjusted to less down angle than regular clip ons. Cycle Cat had that feature and I think SpeedyMoto TallBoys do too. It's the down angle that makes it so hard to calculate the result at the grips.

[Jarvicious]

You didn't even have to dig very deep, it was mentioned a couple of times in this thread...
Rough night? 

I have no idea what you're talking about

There's always these:

http://www.shopmotorcycleonlinestore.com/ConvertiBARS-CONVERTIBARS-detail.htm?productId=8450703

Super functional, but god are they ugly.  It would be cool to jack them up for a long ride and then set them down into the triple for your spirited runs though.

[DesmoLu]

I believe you need near to 4 inches to achieve close to stock.

For an extreme comparo, this is what no-rise looks like

Okay, this may be from midget only perspective, but GOD DAMN those clip-ons were evil! Of course, the first time I ever rode with them involved about 4 hours of straight to get started!

[seevtsaab]

Sorry to thread jack but I'm finding  some excellent info here.

Jarvicious - that is the Rizoma triple/clamp combo I was thinking of. Stopintime's comment
about sweepback, plus the limited height adjustments, has me rethinking that.

Woodcrafts mounted above the triple, using some small risers, might be the ticket.
Would also allow me to defer replacing the stock triple, I'll likely be tearing the works apart
at a later date anyway to rework the forks, that's another thread.

Jeff - thanks for the info on your install. Can you tell me what the rise on the Cycle Cat clip-ons was?
Woodcraft measures from top of fork clamp to top of bar, your 2.5" was from bottom of clamp to center of bar. (or, what's the CC clamp thickness?)

Needless to say, plenty to consider, thanks all.

[mendoje]

seevtsaab,

My clip-ons are the Cycle Cat DBR-1 kit, 53mm bore for SBK forks.  From the bottom of the fork clamp to centerline of the bar is about 2-1/2".  Measuring to the top of the bar clamp (ignoring the bump for the cap screws), it's about 3-1/8".  The actual bar clamp thickness is about 0.18"



As stopintime mentioned, the CC bar clamp has a "down angle" built into it.  But the inboard end of the handle bar is also machined to provide additional angle adjustment, so in effect, the bar is "bent" a few degrees, so when you spin it in the clamp the outboard end has additional height and angle adjustment.

Jeff

[suzyj]

This is from suzyj's SBK swap w/ Woodcrafts:


Zero rise. Looks good, so only 3mm more fork leg than what would normally be needed above the top triple for an above-triple clipon attachment with SBK forks. I'm assuming the grips are around the stock height, since I don't think she mentioned not using the stock brake lines. Although, I think different brake lines are needed to run the 4-pot brakes she installed.

The grips are about 2" lower, 2" further forward, and 1" inboard of the stock position.  I used stock brake and clutch lines (a set of lines came with the 4 pot calipers).  Getting the brake and clutch lines to work was a bit of a pain.

[mendoje]

suzyj, I also used the stock M800 brake and clutch lines, and I agree, getting all of the hydraulic and electrical routing to work took a lot of time.  The clip-ons and bars only took a couple hours, but trial and error routing (and re-routing) the lines took the rest of the day.

I think those of us who've gone with SBK forks should compare notes, take some new pictures of the extra gory details like brake/clutch/throttle/electrical routing, and compile it into a dedicated thread.

Jeff

...I used stock brake and clutch lines (a set of lines came with the 4 pot calipers).  Getting the brake and clutch lines to work was a bit of a pain.

[csorin]

Has anyone compared the regular Speedymotos with the Woodcraft product?  I like the looks of the Speedymoto, as well as their bent bar design.  At $100 more per pair, I have to wonder what you get for the extra bank.

Could one solution be Woodcraft clip-ons with Speedymoto bars?  You'd still be $50 under the Speedy set, yet retain all of its functionality.   

[stopintime]

Has anyone compared the regular Speedymotos with the Woodcraft product?  I like the looks of the Speedymoto, as well as their bent bar design.  At $100 more per pair, I have to wonder what you get for the extra bank.

Could one solution be Woodcraft clip-ons with Speedymoto bars?  You'd still be $50 under the Speedy set, yet retain all of its functionality.   

The SpeedyMoto TallBoys will be higher.
They will also be closer to you because they mount on the outside.
Because they are closer, usually they don't allow full sweep back angle without severly limiting the steering stops.

[csorin]

Sorry, but by regular speedymoto I meant the standard version, not the tallboys.