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Started by mysticbluex3, February 18, 2012, 05:34:02 PM

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Armor

#15
February 20, 2012, 09:43:56 AM
Adding more oil than you need doesn't help anything.  You should not overfill the engine.
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Thermite

#16
February 20, 2012, 10:49:04 AM
Adding the recommended amount is not more than you need.
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ducatiz

#17
February 20, 2012, 10:54:06 AM
Quote from: Carbon 14 on February 20, 2012, 10:49:04 AM
Adding the recommended amount is not more than you need.

Don't know about you, but I never manage to get all the oil when I drain mine.  If I put the stated quantity into mine, it would always be around half a quart or more too much.
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ducpainter

#18
February 20, 2012, 10:58:55 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on February 20, 2012, 10:54:06 AM
Don't know about you, but I never manage to get all the oil when I drain mine.  If I put the stated quantity into mine, it would always be around half a quart or more too much.
I never get the whole 3.5 qts in either.

I usually add three...run it...and top it up to the full line after a few minute drain back.

I usually end up adding a pint.
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thought

#19
February 20, 2012, 11:00:26 AM
I fill it to where I need it in the sight glass, run the engine, and then let it sit for a while to let the oil recollect.  After that I top it off with what I need.  I've never had to use the full recommended amount, always a bit less like Tiz said.
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Howie

#20
February 20, 2012, 01:35:50 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on February 20, 2012, 10:58:55 AM
I never get the whole 3.5 qts in either.

I usually add three...run it...and top it up to the full line after a few minute drain back.

I usually end up adding a pint.

Quote from: thought on February 20, 2012, 11:00:26 AM
I fill it to where I need it in the sight glass, run the engine, and then let it sit for a while to let the oil recollect.  After that I top it off with what I need.  I've never had to use the full recommended amount, always a bit less like Tiz said.

Zakly [thumbsup]

Ddan

#21
February 20, 2012, 02:54:31 PM Last Edit: February 20, 2012, 02:57:03 PM by Dan
Quote from: howie on February 20, 2012, 01:35:50 PM
Zakly [thumbsup]

What he (they) said

Quote from: ducatiz on February 18, 2012, 05:51:42 PM
Check out the oil filter review in my sig below.


Did you ever take apart that Amsoil filter I sent you?
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ducatiz

#22
February 20, 2012, 03:21:01 PM
Quote from: Dan on February 20, 2012, 02:54:31 PM
Did you ever take apart that Amsoil filter I sent you?

Nope.  I have it sitting here on my desk with 2 other filters scheduled for "demolition" when it gets warmer.  (An Athena filter and a Ryco).

I haven't forgotten!
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

ducpainter

#23
February 20, 2012, 03:22:53 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on February 20, 2012, 03:21:01 PM
Nope.  I have it sitting here on my desk with 2 other filters scheduled for "demolition" when it gets warmer.  (An Athena filter and a Ryco).

I haven't forgotten!

good paperweights...

eh? ;D
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


ducatiz

#24
February 20, 2012, 03:24:39 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on February 20, 2012, 03:22:53 PM
good paperweights...

eh? ;D

paper?  i have a 21st century office!

no, it's an interest of mine.  my home office is a gun/motorcycle/pipe/watch lovers dream
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Thermite

#25
February 20, 2012, 08:36:42 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on February 20, 2012, 10:58:55 AM
I never get the whole 3.5 qts in either.

I usually add three...run it...and top it up to the full line after a few minute drain back.

I usually end up adding a pint.

I must have gone to a bad school, they taught me three quarts and a pint is 3.5 quarts.

I must just be lucky but when I drain, fill and ride the level is always spot on.  A couple ounces +/- isn't going to make any difference anyway as it's just sump material.  When in doubt I always have to figure the engineers who design and build the motor are at least smart enough to decide how much lubricant should be installed.  If you install the correct amount you will be within OEM operating parameters.
'07 S4RS and '04 998 Matrix.  Because sometimes I feel like a monster, and sometimes I don't.

ducpainter

#26
February 21, 2012, 03:50:13 AM
Quote from: Carbon 14 on February 20, 2012, 08:36:42 PM
I must have gone to a bad school, they taught me three quarts and a pint is 3.5 quarts.

I must just be lucky but when I drain, fill and ride the level is always spot on.  A couple ounces +/- isn't going to make any difference anyway as it's just sump material.  When in doubt I always have to figure the engineers who design and build the motor are at least smart enough to decide how much lubricant should be installed.  If you install the correct amount you will be within OEM operating parameters.
No...you went to the good school.

I left out the word 'under'. ;D
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


thought

#27
February 21, 2012, 01:03:30 PM
For me, I'm a lot more comfortable knowing that the oil level is exactly where it's supposed to be as opposed to a generalized number that the manual gives me.  One of those theory vs reality kind of things... while in a perfect world the perfect amt of oil might be the suggested one, 98% of the time reality butts in and it's not quite what it's supposed to be.

Also, I've heard that overfilling your oil is pretty rough on your engine... in fact people have told me that it's better to closer to the bottom/mid of the oil line rather than the top so I tend to shoot for that level rather than the top line.
'10 SFS 1098
'11 M796 ABS - Sold
'05 SV650N - Sold

bdub

#28
February 24, 2012, 09:03:59 AM
Also, I've heard that overfilling your oil is pretty rough on your engine... in fact people have told me that it's better to closer to the bottom/mid of the oil line rather than the top so I tend to shoot for that level rather than the top line.

That's what I do [thumbsup]
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