Helmet law in MI may be 86'd soon.

[zooom]

from the op: Helmet Laws: Good or Bad? Discuss

i fail to see how my comment is off topic or how you can keep politics out of a thread that is discussing if a law is a good or bad idea... hmmmm

don't poke a grizzley with a twig...you'll lose...

discussing a law and discussing politics can be 2 different things...especially with this particular subject.

[SpikeC]

 The only way that not wearing a helmet does not effect anyone but the helmetless is if the individual has not relatives or loved ones. A person living on life support is a tragedy for family and society as a whole. Why not get rid of seatbelts and airbags? Ad child seats? And on and on.....
  While we could just allow those with poor judgement to go ahead and cripple, maim, or kill themselves, should we?

[rsoffar]

don't poke a grizzley with a twig...you'll lose...

discussing a law and discussing politics can be 2 different things...especially with this particular subject.

i dont think there is winning or losing on a forum.
 
as to your second thing, If this is the case I admit my ignorance on not being able to differentiate which parts of my post are on or off topic. anyways I made my opinion known and shall move on If its really an issue by all means pm me with specifics to avoid any further posting mistakes.

[rsoffar]

The only way that not wearing a helmet does not effect anyone but the helmetless is if the individual has not relatives or loved ones. A person living on life support is a tragedy for family and society as a whole. Why not get rid of seatbelts and airbags? Ad child seats? And on and on.....
  While we could just allow those with poor judgement to go ahead and cripple, maim, or kill themselves, should we?

dont get me started ive been warned haha, I am against the fact you can get a ticket for not wearing a seat belt but never get in a car without wearing one (hints against seat belt laws but am all for wearing them because its smart). Anyways i retract my previous comment and now understand why you didnt want me to go there and see how this is heading off topic.

[ducpainter]

from the op: Helmet Laws: Good or Bad? Discuss

i fail to see how my comment is off topic or how you can keep politics out of a thread that is discussing if a law is a good or bad idea... hmmmm

Your comments about Mayor Bloomberg are off topic and political.

Do you understand it now?

[nickshelby500kr]

My girlfriend and I were driving around the other day when it was super nice outside, like 78 degrees on a saturday. Every 15 seconds I saw a bike. As the day went on i noticed a steady trend of harley riders and not wearing helmets. Yes, specifically harleys not just cruisers in general. For every 6 harleys we saw, only 1 was wearing ANY kind of helmet. Whereas sport/naked/adventure/import cruisers were the exact opposite, 10 helmet wearers for every 1 non-wearer.

just something that stood out to me to the point where i actually kept count throughout the day.

[ungeheuer]

My girlfriend and I were driving around the other day when it was super nice outside, like 78 degrees on a saturday. Every 15 seconds I saw a bike. As the day went on i noticed a steady trend of harley riders and not wearing helmets. Yes, specifically harleys not just cruisers in general. For every 6 harleys we saw, only 1 was wearing ANY kind of helmet. Whereas sport/naked/adventure/import cruisers were the exact opposite, 10 helmet wearers for every 1 non-wearer.

Darwinism 

[DexterMorgan]

I live in MI and my bike insurance prices never fluctuated much.  I would never be caught without my RF-1100. 

[Dirty Duc]

I live in AZ, helmets are optional.

I'm MOGMOTT.  I ride helmetless (and sometimes in shorts and a t-shirt) whenever I do work on my bike (like an oil change).  I do have two miles of rarely trafficked sorta private road to play on.  This is also the only time I don't ride with earplugs.  It lets me hear if the bike is unhappy (found my second destroyed chain guard this way).

Why do I wear gear?  It makes riding so much more comfortable (with the possible exception of full face helmets... but I have those too... sometimes the wind in your face makes a half/three-quarter/motocross helmet totally worth the bugs, and less of them hit your face than get smeared on your full-face helmet.  Thank the gods of aero for that). 

You ride in your gear, I'll ride in mine.  To be honest, I don't care how much you buy into the DOT definitions, that's your choice.  I prefer having the choice to decide for myself.

[roggie]

I live in MI and my bike insurance prices never fluctuated much.  I would never be caught without my RF-1100. 

+1
last year it seemed like every weekend you'd see more and more without helmets. I wonder what this spring will bring when (if) we finally get some warmer weather to ride in....

[ItsaDuc]

+1
last year it seemed like every weekend you'd see more and more without helmets. I wonder what this spring will bring when (if) we finally get some warmer weather to ride in....

I agree. If we get some good weather, but I'm betting even more riders this year without a lid and ill wager deaths rise another 10-15percent next year.

[DexterMorgan]

What city are you guys in?  I am taking delivery on my 1100evo next week and would love to meet up and ride sometime this year.   

[Stormtrooper]

My brother in law was a career EMT up until about 5 years ago.  His stories of gruesome motorcycle accidents have always stuck in my mind - some of these accidents a helmet wouldn't have mattered much.  However,  I recall him explaining when dispatch would call them out to an accident involving a motorcycle they would identify "with or without helmet" as to help prepare the team for what to expect for on-site trauma care.  And yes the most brutal stories often involved riders that wanted to express their helmet-less freedom...think watermelons and concrete.  He said in these cases there was typically much more on-site care involved, more involvement of medical personal from the EMTs to the ER docs, higher ratios of helicopter medivac, higher fatality rates, and ultimately many more tax and/or insurance dollars spent.  All in the name of freedom     

With that being said, I wear my helmet as religiously as my seat belt.

[DexterMorgan]

^^Same here, my dad was a career emt as well.  I grew up hearing some brutal stories.  I will never pull out on a road without my gear on.  Just the stories alone will always keep it that way.

[ItsaDuc]

What city are you guys in?  I am taking delivery on my 1100evo next week and would love to meet up and ride sometime this year.   

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