696 Charcoal canister removal

[Scissors]

What's the story with passing inspection in the U.S. after doing this? I live in New Jersey; can anyone that's done this and gotten the bike inspected chime in?

Technically, it's a federal offense.  It is illegal to tamper with, disconnect, or disable any emissions control component except for the purposes of repair or replacement with an equivalent component.  Yes, even if it's not required by your state.

[DucatiTorrey]

No problem at this moment, plus the canister is only required by states that follow C.A.R.B. standards.  The future?  Who knows?

yeah ive heard this, especially with new states passing these emissions and DB laws

Technically, it's a federal offense.  It is illegal to tamper with, disconnect, or disable any emissions control component except for the purposes of repair or replacement with an equivalent component.  Yes, even if it's not required by your state.

thats the first i've heard this! oh well, ef em

[ivn]

Technically, it's a federal offense.  It is illegal to tamper with, disconnect, or disable any emissions control component except for the purposes of repair or replacement with an equivalent component.  Yes, even if it's not required by your state.

I guess it's a good thing it's a State inspection facility and not a Federal inspection facility? Anyway, I'll find out soon enough. Thanks everyone for your comments.

[M1100]

ok, so here is where i am at

in the center of the photo you see three hoses. the left large hose went to the canister. Fumes right?
the center hose has the "T", and connects to the throttle bodies, which i am closing up with M6 screws and lock tight

the third appears to be the fual overflow, right? it connects directly where you see it, it just hangs from there. i may cut it a bit shorter. and i think, think is the key word, it connect to the tank right next to where the large fume hose does.

ami right here? i think im all good then, no T connecter needed? i may just cut the fume hose shorter then

where am i confused here people./

thanks in advance

DT

I have an 1100 and don't want to take the panels off--can I just splice the large hose and the smaller hose and be done?  then do I have to use an M6 bolt on the throttle bodies?  If I do, how long should the bolt be?  If I don't what do I put the vacuum cap on? 

Thanks...

[Raux]

the two nipple on the throttle bodies that the tubes attach to. you can either pull them out, measure them and use the correct size bolt, or get some silicone ends, not rubber, mine crapped out after a year, and put them over the ends.

for the overflow and vent, yes just t them near the tank and use the overflow long one as the only going away from the tank area.

[M1100]

But if I don't want to take the panels off can I splice the two hoses in Torrey's pic together behind the frame?

[Raux]

seriously taking the panels off is easy.

it's best to do it that way. in fact that's how the euro bikes comes stock. as well as with bolts in the throttle bodies.

[M1100]

OK, when I do this I will take them off.  Thanks.

[zerocool696]

hey guys,
picked up my 2010 696 in the summer, and I want to remove the charcoal canister. Does anyone have detailed instructions along with photo guidance so I can just follow along step by step, because personally some of the instructions being given make no sense to me. Much appreciated if anyone has, Hope everyone are enjoying their monsters as much as I am. PZ

[ducpainter]

hey guys,
picked up my 2010 696 in the summer, and I want to remove the charcoal canister. Does anyone have detailed instructions along with photo guidance so I can just follow along step by step, because personally some of the instructions being given make no sense to me. Much appreciated if anyone has, Hope everyone are enjoying their monsters as much as I am. PZ

This FAQ is for an earlier bike so locations will be slightly different, but it has all the info you need

[Raux]

if you search in the tech area i think, there are several writeups on taking them off, what you will need etc.

in fact, I think if you search in the moto wheels area, there is a thread about the side piece to replace the stock one with instructions...

here... http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=8630.0

[Amlethae]

Holy thread revival batman...

Just wanted to share something for those who do this in the future for the 696/796/1100:

I had capped mine off with the rubber caps... today riding home from work the bike idled at 3000rpm and wouldn't come down no matter what... = no engine braking!  Got home and checked those caps to find they were cracked and for the horizontal cylinder, the end had come completely off....

Sooooooo my suggestion is to not go with the caps!  Put screws in there! 

They're not hard to find... I just replaced mine with screws left over from what I think was my tail tidy install... fit perfectly.  I don't know the proper torque value, so I tightened them down to just past hand tight which is what the nipples felt like when I tweaked them off (yep, I meant to say that). 

[DucatiTorrey]

yep

[kurtfriedrich]

I was about to remove the nipples and put in bolts, but a friend pointed out that it is much easier to do a throttle body balance if you leave the nipples in place, so I just cut the hoses to about 1 1/2 from the nipples, put in bolts in the hoses, and but hose clamps over that part.  Still allowed me to yank the lines going to the canister.

[freeclimbmtb]

Just my $0.02

I live in NH where emissions arent "required", I had the bike out in San Deigo when I was there for a work trip.  I did the mod myself and used an inline hose barb to join the ends of the hoses from the throttle bodies as many do, and left the tank hose long.  When I brought the bike in for the 7500 service (in CA), the dealer pulled the short hoses and installed rubber caps on the throttle body hose nipples.

The dealer never even batted an eye or mentioned it to me, the only way I knew they did it was when I had the bike appart to pull the stickers off the air box I noticed the mod I had done was gone and replaced by these caps.  Probably the NH registration made them figure "not our problem"  but just goes to show you, they arent ALL out to get us.  

EDIT: I just re read the post above about the cracking rubber.  Ill keep an eye on mine, but they were fine last time I looked (now almost another 6000 miles since the dealer capped them).  Unless I have an issue, I'm going to stick with the caps.