Cam belt tensioner & pulley compatability

Started by seevtsaab, April 19, 2014, 11:52:19 AM

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seevtsaab

My horizontal cylinder (mobile) tensioner pulleys are seized, 05 620 (50K miles). Are the 2V motors all using the same tensioner assembly? or at least bearings? I've got a GT1000 parts list and pulleys listed as "702.4.069.1A Bearing".
I see some examples on ebay that look the same as mine.

any other good source known for either assembly or bearings? Much appreciated.

FWIW, a shout out to CA-Cycleworks belts, I'm on about a 2 year / 20K mile interval and there's some slight wear and one spot of slight delamanation.
Considering the age and severe service (frozen bearing) I'm happy with the condition of these (replacing with same when bad pulley found).


Speeddog

If you're speaking exclusively of the adjustable pulley, the '05 620 uses two 6201RS bearings side by side.

Available from most any bearing house or old-timey auto parts store.
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DarkMonster620

As Speedog says, you can purchase the bearing at any auto store or specialty store . . .

Part number you mention fits the following:
APPLICABILITY - Spare part is included in:
MONSTER    1993    600    (2)
MONSTER    1993    900    (2)
MONSTER    1994    600    (2)
MONSTER    1994    900    (2)
MONSTER    1995    400    (2)
MONSTER    1995    600    (2)
MONSTER    1995    900    (2)
MONSTER    1996    400    (2)
MONSTER    1996    600    (2)
MONSTER    1996    750    (2)
MONSTER    1996    900    (2)
MONSTER    1997    400    (2)
MONSTER    1997    600    (2)
MONSTER    1997    750    (2)
MONSTER    1997    900    (2)
MONSTER    1998    600    (1)
MONSTER    1998    600 Dark    (1)
MONSTER    1998    750    (1)
MONSTER    1998    900    (2)
MONSTER    1998    900 Cromo    (2)
MONSTER    1998    900 S    (2)
MONSTER    1999    600    (1)
MONSTER    1999    600 City    (1)
MONSTER    1999    600 Dark    (1)
MONSTER    1999    600 Dark City    (1)
MONSTER    1999    750    (1)
MONSTER    1999    750 City    (1)
MONSTER    1999    750 Dark    (1)
MONSTER    1999    750 Dark City    (1)
MONSTER    1999    750 USA    (1)
MONSTER    1999    900    (1)
MONSTER    1999    900 City    (1)
MONSTER    1999    900 Dark City    (1)
MONSTER    1999    900 USA    (1)
MONSTER    2000    400    (1)
MONSTER    2000    600    (1)
MONSTER    2000    750    (1)
MONSTER    2000    900    (1)
MONSTER    2001    400    (1)
MONSTER    2001    600    (1)
MONSTER    2001    750    (1)
MONSTER    2001    900    (1)
MONSTER    2002    400    (1)
MONSTER    2002    620    (1)
MONSTER    2002    750    (1)
MONSTER    2002    900    (1)
MONSTER    2003    1000    (1)
MONSTER    2003    400    (1)
MONSTER    2003    620    (1)
MONSTER    2003    800    (1)
MONSTER    2004    1000    (1)
MONSTER    2004    400    (1)
MONSTER    2004    620    (1)
MONSTER    2004    800    (1)
MONSTER    2005    1000    (1)
MONSTER    2005    1000 S    (1)
MONSTER    2005    1000 S USA    (1)
MONSTER    2005    1000 USA    (1)
MONSTER    2005    400    (1)
MONSTER    2005    400 Dark    (1)
MONSTER    2005    400 Dark JAP    (1)
MONSTER    2005    620    (1)
MONSTER    2005    620 Dark    (1)
MONSTER    2005    620 Dark Single Disc    (1)
MONSTER    2005    620 Dark USA    (1)
MONSTER    2005    620 USA    (1)
MONSTER    2005    S2R 800    (1)
MONSTER    2005    S2R 800 DARK    (1)
MONSTER    2005    S2R 800 DARK USA    (1)
MONSTER    2005    S2R 800 USA    (1)
MONSTER    2006    400    (1)
MONSTER    2006    620    (1)
MONSTER    2006    620 Dark    (1)
MONSTER    2006    620 Dark USA    (1)
MONSTER    2006    620 USA    (1)
MONSTER    2006    S2R 1000    (1)
MONSTER    2006    S2R 1000 USA    (1)
MONSTER    2006    S2R 800    (1)
MONSTER    2006    S2R 800 DARK    (1)
MONSTER    2006    S2R 800 DARK USA    (1)
MONSTER    2006    S2R 800 USA    (1)
MULTISTRADA    2003    1000    (1)
MULTISTRADA    2004    1000    (1)
MULTISTRADA    2005    1000    (1)
MULTISTRADA    2005    1000 S    (1)
MULTISTRADA    2005    1000 S USA    (1)
MULTISTRADA    2005    1000 USA    (1)
MULTISTRADA    2006    1000    (1)
MULTISTRADA    2006    1000 S    (1)
MULTISTRADA    2006    1000 S USA    (1)
MULTISTRADA    2006    1000 USA    (1)
MULTISTRADA    2006    620    (1)
MULTISTRADA    2006    620 Dark    (1)
MULTISTRADA    2006    620 Dark USA    (1)
MULTISTRADA    2006    620 USA    (1)
MULTISTRADA    2007    1100 S    (1)
SPORT TOURING    1997    ST2    (2)
SPORT TOURING    1998    ST2    (2)
SPORT TOURING    1999    ST2    (1)
SPORT TOURING    2000    ST2    (1)
SPORT TOURING    2001    ST2    (1)
SPORT TOURING    2002    ST2    (1)
SPORT TOURING    2003    ST2    (1)
SPORT TOURING    2004    ST3    (1)
SPORT TOURING    2005    ST3    (1)
SPORT TOURING    2005    ST3 USA    (1)
SPORT TOURING    2006    ST3    (1)
SPORT TOURING    2006    ST3 S ABS    (1)
SPORT TOURING    2006    ST3 S ABS USA    (1)
SPORT TOURING    2006    ST3 USA    (1)
SPORTCLASSIC    2001    MH900E    (1)
SPORTCLASSIC    2002    MH900E    (1)
SPORTCLASSIC    2006    Paul Smart    (1)
SPORTCLASSIC    2006    Paul Smart USA    (1)
SPORTCLASSIC    2006    Sport 1000 Single-Seat    (1)
SPORTCLASSIC    2006    Sport 1000 Single-Seat USA    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1990    907 I.E.    (3)
SUPERBIKE    1991    851    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1991    907 I.E.    (3)
SUPERBIKE    1991    907 I.E. USA    (3)
SUPERBIKE    1992    851    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1992    907 I.E.    (3)
SUPERBIKE    1992    907 I.E. USA    (3)
SUPERBIKE    1993    888 SP5    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1993    907 I.E.    (3)
SUPERBIKE    1994    888    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1994    888 US    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1994    916    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1994    916 SP    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1994    916 Senna    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1995    748    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1995    888    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1995    888 US    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1995    916    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1995    916 SP    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1995    916 Senna    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1996    748    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1996    916    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1996    916 SP    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1996    916 Senna    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1997    748    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1997    916    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1997    916 R    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1997    916 SPS    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1997    916 Senna    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1998    748    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1998    748 R Single-Seat    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1998    748 SPS    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1998    916 R    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1998    916 SPS    (1)
SUPERBIKE    1998    916 Senna    (1)
SUPERBIKE    2001    996 RS    (1)
SUPERBIKE    2002    998 RS    (1)
SUPERBIKE    2003    998 RS    (1)
SUPERSPORT    1991    600 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1991    750 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1991    900 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1991    900 SS USA    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1992    600 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1992    750 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1992    900 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1992    900 SS USA    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1993    400 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1993    600 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1993    750 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1993    900 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1993    900 SS USA    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1994    400 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1994    600 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1994    750 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1994    900 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1994    900 SS USA    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1995    400 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1995    600 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1995    750 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1995    900 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1995    900 SS USA    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1996    400 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1996    600 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1996    750 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1996    900 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1996    900 SS USA    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1997    400 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1997    600 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1997    750 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1997    900 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1997    900 SS USA    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1998    900 SS    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1998    900 SS Final Ed.    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1998    900 SS USA    (2)
SUPERSPORT    1999    750 SS    (1)
SUPERSPORT    1999    750 SS USA    (1)
SUPERSPORT    1999    900 SS    (1)
SUPERSPORT    1999    900 SS USA    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2000    750 SS    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2000    900 SS    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2001    750 S    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2001    750 SS    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2001    900 SS    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2002    750 S    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2002    750 SS    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2002    900 S    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2002    900 SS    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2003    1000 SS    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2003    620 S    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2003    800 S    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2003    800 SS    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2004    1000 SS    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2004    800 SS    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2005    1000 SS    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2005    1000 SS USA    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2005    800 SS    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2005    800 SS USA    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2006    1000 SS    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2006    1000 SS USA    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2006    800 SS USA    (1)
SUPERSPORT    2007    800 SS USA

You can also use this as reference, SKF site, there's two listed bearings for the belt tensioner. 6201-2RSL & 6201-2RSH. The difference appears to be the speed ratings. The H is rated 0-15k rpm, and the L is rated 5k-26k rpm. 0-15krpm is the right range.
Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

seevtsaab

Thank you guys. Auto parts places around here tend toward the Fast and Furious but I'll call around.
I found  a Ducat Parts Fiche and see the bearing listed under  different #'s but the tensioner assembly (adjustable - thanks Sppeddog
....mobile? my brain is fried) always looks the same #.

seevtsaab

I can barely get the bearings to spin, and they're not willing to slide off the shaft.

Are these pressed onto the tensioner assembly or should I be able to slide them off (C clip removed of course)?

DarkMonster620

Quote from: seevtsaab on April 20, 2014, 07:00:21 AM
I can barely get the bearings to spin, and they're not willing to slide off the shaft.

Are these pressed onto the tensioner assembly or should I be able to slide them off (C clip removed of course)?


You should be able to take them off once the C-clip is taken off . ..  if they're 'frozen in' use a little WD40 and let it soak and try moving it by hand . . . If necessary, re-soak and if WD40 doesn't do the trick, use some old brake fluid and just let it soak, this should take care of the 'rust' . . .
Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

Speeddog

I've always had to use a press for removal and installation of those bearings.

You can use a hammer and punch with some care.

Be careful with the shaft end, don't press or punch on the lip overhanging the groove.
Easy to bend it and then the clip won't fit.

When installing, only apply force to the inner race.
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Reseda, CA

(951) 640-8908


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seevtsaab

No Joy so far soaking with PB Blaster.
I'll submerse in old brake fluid.
Meantime I've ordered a used unit, while that's in transit I'll do a long over due valve check.

Thanks very much for the wise words.

rule62

When the bearings on the vertical cylinder adjustable belt tensioner on my '04 620 seized, I used a small puller to get the old bearings off. I was able to get one on loan from Autozone. It was a pain figuring out how to get the puller on properly. I tried taking the adjustable part off of the bike and fitting the puller, but in the end, I had more luck keeping it on the bike to get the puller to work.

I used a large c-clamp and a deep-well socket just bigger than the shaft to press the new bearings on. (A vise would have probably worked better, but I didn't have one).

As a note, these bearings are the same size as the one pressed into the pressure plate.

NAKID

I recently had a seized bearing on my S2R1000 (the adjustable bearing). Apparently at least for the DS1000 motors, Ducati has replaced the 2 bearing part with a single larger bearing pre-pressed on the adjuster.
2005 S2R800
2006 S2R1000
2015 Monster 821