Fitting New Head Studs

Started by MonsterMadMarty, December 04, 2014, 05:03:26 PM

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MonsterMadMarty

As in the title I'm fitting new head studs! I've removed the heads but not the cylinders so running a tap to clean the old thread once the stud is removed is kinda difficult! So I've been blowing the hole with air, then cleaning the old stud thread, winding it back in and out, blowing with air again then fitting the new stud (just the one so far).

The new and old studs are excatly the same lenght.  The old studs sit 73.4mm proud of the cylinder. The one new stud I've fitted so far I can only get in to sit 74.3mm proud.  I don't want to force too hard and snap or weaken the new stud so does the extra 0.9mm matter?

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Speeddog

#2
Remove cylinders and pistons.

Clean threads with a tap.

Confirm studs will screw in to the proper depth/height.

Install studs to the proper height, with blue loctite.

Without delay, install the cylinders, heads, and head nuts, and torque to a 'installed' level.

Next day, remove cylinders and heads, and reassemble from there.

Don't re-use piston pin clips.

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MonsterMadMarty

Quote from: Speeddog on December 04, 2014, 08:04:50 PM

Remove cylinders and pistons.


Why remove the pistons? Is it possible to just replace the rings?
RIDING - 1993 M900 x 2; 2007 M400; 2007 Factory 900XR

Recently purchased: Fire damaged 2001 S4!

My greatest fear in life is that when I die my better half will sell my Ducati's and tools for the price I told her I paid for them!

oldndumb

#4
Most DIYers use taps with a taper at the start end. If that is the what you are using, and you still cannot get the correct height, a plug or bottom tap might be called for. A taper end tap will not clean the bottom threads in a blind hole.

Ditto the shortcut opinion with an addition is that it usually only applies when the operation is critical.

Speeddog

#5
Quote from: MonsterMadMarty on December 04, 2014, 09:05:26 PM
Why remove the pistons? Is it possible to just replace the rings?

Removing the pistons saves you one episode of 'Fun With The Ring Compressor'.

You could remove the rings instead, but be very careful with the oil rings, they're cast iron and quite fragile.

And I've edited the above, torque to 'installed' value while the loctite cures.
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MonsterMadMarty

Cheers SD,

I get what you are saying now! (I'm a bit slow) if I remove the pistons keeping them in the cylinders I don't need to wrestle with the rings!  Ordered some pistons pin clips.

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RIDING - 1993 M900 x 2; 2007 M400; 2007 Factory 900XR

Recently purchased: Fire damaged 2001 S4!

My greatest fear in life is that when I die my better half will sell my Ducati's and tools for the price I told her I paid for them!