M620 Clutch

Started by Mother, August 09, 2015, 11:30:17 PM

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Cloner

I have installed several sets.

The first set I bought for a customer's Multistrada 1100 because of the slight price difference.  I, too, ended up eating them because the bike simply wouldn't find neutral.  It actually required a strong pull on the brake lever to keep the bike from pulling through stop lights!

The other two sets were customer purchases, one in an 800 SS race bike (that I now own) with an APTC clutch and one in an 848.  Both experienced the same inability to find neutral, though it was worse in the 848.  The 800 also has a pronounced chatter on launch that I put down to the lack of a dished plate.

I have also experienced some trouble with their dry clutches, though not as commonly.  Recently a customer brought me a 1098 and a set of clutches he purchased that dragged badly.  I have had no problem with them in earlier two-valvers, though.

I think from now on I will refuse to get involved in the installation of any clutches that say Barnette on them for Ducati.

I still like their clutch basket design, though.  It's an aluminum basket with steel faces where the friction plates interface with the basket to reduce wear.  No problem with that bit. 
Never appeal to a man's "better nature."  He may not have one.  Invoking his self-interest gives you more leverage.  R.A. Heinlein

'64 Ducati Monza 250
'67 Aermacchi/HD Sprint SS (race bike)
'00 Aprilia RSV Mille
'03 Ducati 800 SS (race bike)
'04 KTM 450 EXC
'08 Kawasaki Ninja 250 (race bike)

Howie

OEM wet non APTC clutches, with a rider who knows how to operate a clutch last a long time.  My old bike with over 73K mostly urban miles still has the OEM clutch.  My buddy has over 100K on his.  When something works that well stick with it.

koko64

Thanks guys. Great information.
A buddy picked up a set for his M750 and is keen to use them. I can warn him to stick with his oem plates which have been trouble free for 47k miles.
2015 Scrambler 800

Mother

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Quote from: ducpainter on August 10, 2015, 03:17:02 PM
Snark...us?

...and besides...

it's only an $80 price difference.

If you can live with finding neutral on the coast then go for it.

Ducs haven't gotten any cheaper to own. :-\

I noticed that today looking up an OEM stack

$80 difference isn't  worth the risk of all that frustration

A recent romp around the web found way too many stories that match speeddog and cloner

found my old skin suit

Nibor

It seems like all these problem Barnett wet kits are aptc? Any issues explicitly with the old style wet clutches?

I picked up a set of Barnett plates for $30 my 97 m750, which is the older pantah spec motor with the internal slave cylinder.

This differs somewhat to the APtC setup yes?

Speeddog

I've not tried a set of the regular Barnetts.

I've got a shyte stack that came in my M750, they're not OEM and they drag as bad as the Barnetts.
Dunno if they're Barnett or not.
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Cloner

MTS 1100 is NOT an APTC clutch.  Barnett clutches were awful in it.

The end.
Never appeal to a man's "better nature."  He may not have one.  Invoking his self-interest gives you more leverage.  R.A. Heinlein

'64 Ducati Monza 250
'67 Aermacchi/HD Sprint SS (race bike)
'00 Aprilia RSV Mille
'03 Ducati 800 SS (race bike)
'04 KTM 450 EXC
'08 Kawasaki Ninja 250 (race bike)

DarkMonster620

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Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

Nibor

So who wants to buy my Barnett kit?  ;D ;D