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Oil Cooler: Monster S4R 996 Engine -- Can It Run Without One?

Started by TitanMonsterS4R, July 18, 2016, 04:32:09 PM

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TitanMonsterS4R

July 18, 2016, 04:32:09 PM Last Edit: July 18, 2016, 04:34:29 PM by TitanMonsterS4R
Wondering what the potential cons are to running my Monster S4R without its oil cooler.

Lower cooler got a whole in it and needs to be replaced. This got me wondering what would happen if I ran the bike without an oil cooler at all and blocked the holes on both sides of the engine where the current oil lines run.

My 02 S4 ran without an oil cooler, engines are similar 916 vs 996. Both run the same type of radiator......

Just curious

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EEL

#1
July 18, 2016, 04:39:14 PM
So question, sometimes radiators and oil coolers are really put together into the same housing. Are you sure that the S4 you speak of didn't have this methodology and now they have dissociated it.

In certain cars (like my honda), the transmission fluid will run in a loop and go into the radiator. There is a physical barrier formed into the radiator to keep coolant and transmission fluid apart.

I don't know the answer but its something to think about that might help you to answer your question. Maybe look at an exploded parts diagram from the ducati site on the S4 to see if it has oil lines running to it.

DarkMonster620

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July 18, 2016, 04:52:28 PM
I would NOT recommend running too long without the oil cooler . ..  the added displacement generates extra heat . .you could use any oil cooler that  you can somehow install until either you get an OEM like this one, http://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-2007-DUCATI-Monster-S4R-oil-cooler-radiator-54840441A-fittings-grommets-/161749998677
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TitanMonsterS4R

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July 18, 2016, 05:35:29 PM
Quote from: DarkMonster620 on July 18, 2016, 04:52:28 PM
I would NOT recommend running too long without the oil cooler . ..  the added displacement generates extra heat . .you could use any oil cooler that  you can somehow install until either you get an OEM like this one, http://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-2007-DUCATI-Monster-S4R-oil-cooler-radiator-54840441A-fittings-grommets-/161749998677

The weather is really cool in Australia right now so I think I might be able to get away with it for a little bit. But understand that the added CCs increases the heat for the bike.....

Wonder why the S4 never got a oil cooler now...
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DarkMonster620

#4
July 18, 2016, 05:36:16 PM
Quote from: TitanMonsterS4R on July 18, 2016, 05:35:29 PM
The weather is really cool in Australia right now so I think I might be able to get away with it for a little bit. But understand that the added CCs increases the heat for the bike.....

Wonder why the S4 never got a oil cooler now...
good question . . but, here, where I am, is needed . . .
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Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
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July 18, 2016, 06:05:23 PM
Can?  Or Should?
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July 18, 2016, 06:17:28 PM
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July 18, 2016, 07:30:24 PM
Quote from: Duck-Stew on July 18, 2016, 06:05:23 PM
Can?  Or Should?

Well both, can I and should I?
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July 18, 2016, 08:06:22 PM
S4 never had an oil cooler of any form.

If you want to run without the cooler, you'll need to provide oil to the heads somehow.
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TitanMonsterS4R

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July 18, 2016, 09:59:34 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on July 18, 2016, 08:06:22 PM
S4 never had an oil cooler of any form.

If you want to run without the cooler, you'll need to provide oil to the heads somehow.

Well that answers my question about running one without an oil cooler. Wonder if I could get a better one.
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Duck-Stew

#10
July 19, 2016, 01:31:36 AM
Quote from: TitanMonsterS4R on July 18, 2016, 07:30:24 PM
Well both, can I and should I?

Yes.  And No.  Respectively.
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