NGK better than Champion?

Started by uclabiker06, August 21, 2008, 01:58:19 PM

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uclabiker06

Are NGK D8EA spark plugs really better than the OEM Champions?
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teddy037.2

that seems to be the popular opinion.

when I was trying to sort my engine stutter issues a while back, swapping to the NGKs made it all go away.

but it were a LOT of things I checked first before any of us thought, "hey, change the plugs!"

uclabiker06

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2009 Smart

He Man

you can feel the differnce between NGK and Champions literally. NGK all the way.

uclabiker06

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SP3

Since I have never read a post saying that NEW Champions were swapped for NEW NGKs of the same type or vice versa I am still calling BS on this. I have Champions in SP3, NGKs in the Monster, Bosch in my wifes truck, ACs in my car, .................
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brad black

when i started my first week was a training course and we were told to remove teh factory fitted champions at first service and replace them with ngk in all models.  then when we were the only dealer in town doing that we stopped as it made our service more expensive, meaning bad.  we then changed them at 10,000 like everyone else.
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hypurone

Yup, NGK all the way. Changed mine when I installed the Full Termi and was heading up for a PCIII & dyno work. The tech was happy cuz he always had a hard time getting a "clean" signal from the champions he said. It is the only plug I use for my 3rd gen twin turbo RX7. I had an erratic idle in my new to me Chevy C1500, it had brand new Bosch Platinum +4's in it. Had the receipt from the guy I bought it from. Replaced them with NGK double platinums (couldn't find Iridium's) and presto, perfect!!
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Monstermash

Quote from: teddy037.2 on August 21, 2008, 02:25:10 PM


when I was trying to sort my engine stutter issues a while back, swapping to the NGKs made it all go away.



Hey Teddy,

Just curious, what kind of stutter issues were you having?
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teddy037.2

idle got choppy, from 3-5k partial throttle it would stutter like it was running out of gas, or I'd twist it and there'd be no response... had a thd going on TOB for it.

had the dealer check the valves/cam/TPS/synch/stock fuel trim, tried running a zero, canned, my custom maps on PC3, took off PC3, changed fuel filter...

dropped in the NGKs and it stopped. and never came back.

that was... 2 years ago?

bullet boy

anybody know offhand what the Ngk's should be gapped at and torqued down to?

brimo

Quote from: bullet boy on August 26, 2008, 06:37:09 PM
anybody know offhand what the Ngk's should be gapped at and torqued down to?

+ 1 on NGK plugs
Torque values.

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=373.0

gap 0.6-0.7mm
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