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cyrus buelton

#135
February 11, 2009, 11:04:35 AM
Quote from: Sinister on February 11, 2009, 10:38:15 AM
Does 'C' stand for 'carbine'?  I thought that AR-15 was just a civilian moniker for the military's M16.  Dunno.

Colt
Assault
Rifle

CAR

Apparently Colt wanted to separate themselves from Armalite and re-named their gun.

After some research, the CAR-15 is commonly referred to the name for the 14.5in barreled M4 Commando
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Sinister

#136
February 11, 2009, 11:11:51 AM
More invaluable useless information, that I must not live without.  Thanks!
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ducatiz

#137
February 11, 2009, 05:40:55 PM
Colt made a shitload of variations of the AR platform over the years. 

The M4 also comes in a version known as the Commando.  The "standard" GI version M4 has a 14" barrel and contoured for an M203 launcher, whereas the Commando has an 11.5" barrel and no contour, and uses the same CAR buttstock.  It is absurdly short.

They also have a 9mm version just called the "9mm SMG" (wow, original) with a 10.5" barrel.  Those were commissioned by the NRC, I *believe* but I cannot be sure.

I find the 9mm version to be a waste of space.  They used the same long bolt, mag well and lower and re-sized it all for 9mm.  The MP5 or almost any purpose built SMG is superior.  Plus, they still used the direct gas system of the AR, which for pistol ammo MIGHT be cleaner (faster burn) but you still ahve the same problems.




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Kopfjäger

#138
February 12, 2009, 12:11:20 AM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on February 11, 2009, 05:40:55 PM

The M4 also comes in a version known as the Commando.  The "standard" GI version M4 has a 14" barrel and contoured for an M203 launcher,









14.5 genius



An M4A1 with SOPMOD package, including Rail Interface System (RIS), flip-up rear sight and Trijicon ACOG 4x.
Type Assault rifle
Place of origin  United States
Service history
In service 1994â€"present
Used by See Users
Wars War in Afghanistan (2001â€"present), War in Iraq (2003-present)
Production history
Manufacturer Colt Defense
Produced 1994â€"present
Variants M4A1, CQBR
Specifications
Weight 5.9 lb (2.7 kg) empty
6.9 lb (3.1 kg) with 30 rounds
Length 33 in (838 mm) (stock extended)
29.8 in (757 mm) (stock retracted)
Barrel length 14.5 in (368 mm)

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Cartridge 5.56x45mm NATO
Action Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Rate of fire 700â€"950 round/min cyclic
Muzzle velocity 2,900 ft/s (884 m/s)
Feed system 30 round box magazine or other STANAG Magazines
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Rameses

#139
February 12, 2009, 12:38:16 AM

ducpainter

#140
February 12, 2009, 05:45:31 AM
can't you kids get along?
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ducatiz

#141
February 12, 2009, 05:57:43 AM
Quote from: kopfjager on February 12, 2009, 12:11:20 AM

14.5 genius

yes, i left off the 0.5, was there anything else wrong with what i said?

the way you talk to folks around here, i guess a half inch means a lot to you.

lighten up francis
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Sinister

#142
February 12, 2009, 08:08:42 AM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on February 12, 2009, 05:57:43 AM
i guess a half inch means a lot to you.

It's all he's got, dude.   [laugh]

[leo]Sorry officer, the joke was just sitting there.  I had to take it.
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CowboyBeebop

#143
February 12, 2009, 09:39:31 AM Last Edit: February 12, 2009, 09:42:03 AM by CowboyBeebop

ducatiz

#144
February 15, 2009, 08:33:34 AM
Quote from: kopfjager on February 14, 2009, 05:41:03 PM
This is my Team


i heard this was your team:

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cyrus buelton

#145
February 15, 2009, 08:46:47 AM
 [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

I watched the A-Team a few weeks ago when I was off work.


It is amazing how much automatic gun fire goes down, but yet nobody gets killed.

Also, each episode has a minimum of 4 vehicles that get launched of the "one sided ramp" so it flips over.
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Statler

#146
February 15, 2009, 09:18:52 AM
if anyone wants to discuss the actual topic thread here shoot me a pm and I'll be happy to unlock this.
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